The GOP and FOX are trying to get Obama assassinated

I truly believe this. They hope, in the very least, to initiate a violent overthrow of the government. The GOP, FOX news, and the fringe are all one entity now, with FOX pulling the strings. Their madness is calculated and designed to push people over the brink.

I really believe this, talk me down.

Imagine what this will turn into within a few years.....

All this crap from Beck and drug-addict Rush about socialism and watering the tree of liberty with blood, jeez. There are a lot of nuts out there and you can't wind up these squirrels that tight and not expect something to happen.

HATE AND FEAR

I bet Republicans own far more guns that do Democrats.

and I think Glenn Beck is the most dangerous one of 'em all. Did you see this video of a guy who is obviously a Beck follower?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzqqCLcTxg8&feature=channel_page

been, by the the SS. These people are nutjobs of the highest order.

PUMA bigots were lapping this one up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYHKOhaQCgg

Where do they get off calling themselves Patriots? They lost the election and just prove themselves to be bitter sore losers.

Really out there!

"Leftists! We will not allow america to be Socialized. Playing the race card like you are is dangerous.

You are traitors, especially you from DUmmie Underground. Get out of the free man's nation!!!"


Yeah, they're not racists. "Get out of the free man's nation!!!" :eyes:

And those guys all swear they aren't racists.

Just as crazy as if the right had accused the DNC and MSNBC of trying to get Bush assassinated.

:shrug:

I find it very disturbing that we are becoming so polarized that some on the left now assume that the opposing political party would want the president, any president for that matter, assassinated.

Those teabaggers were all protesting thanks to his "9/12 Project." He's a cult leader and congressmen go on his show agree with him and the poison is spread throughout the party. If you want to ignore what's going on here, that's your right. But there's a REASON threats have increased 400% under Obama's presidency.

Are you this dumb every day?

I was originally responding to the OP's statement that the GOP and FOX network want Obama dead, to which I disagree. Some lunatic factions may want him dead, but that is certainly not the position of the Republican party, or FOX for that matter.

If Democrats were, 'the same thing,' as republicans then there would be some validity to what you say.

'The left' isn't accusing the RNC or FOX of anything, but I see a pattern here of FOX/GOP instigating, then denying....instigate, deny...instigate, deny...

Their callous, intentional, irresponsibility is a cue. There are consequences to incitement, they know it, yet they continue to escalate it.

But I do not believe that the party itself wishes the president to be assassinated. To say that is way over the top.

Every party has lunatic fringes, the left does too.

...but they know what may happen as a result of their actions

if they see them? Or CONGRESSMEN who AGREED with the likes of this guy speaking at their rallies?

Because there is one specific wing of the Republican party (let's call them the Bush Crime Family) that has been the power behind every Repuke presidency since Eisenhower. And they already assassinated one Democratic president. And his brother, when he ran for the job. Not to mention they even attempted to kill one of their own in 1981.

So yes, THOSE Repukes are very capable of Presidential assassinations. :evilfrown:

if you really believe that is not the truth you are really naive. No,its not all of them but there are very many and the media can try to put whatever spin on it they want..And a lot of these people don't know what in the hell has been going for the past eight years.

Let alone the past thirty years,I still believe there are plenty out there who can be reach with common sense but,for many there is not hope they really,really,really do believe that this country is only for caucasians and some really believe that they are the only ones who are suppose to hold power even though this country has many races and cultures and the Native Americans they think should be treated like dogs.


Many of these people are really insane/ignorant. I really do believe that some of these people really think that this country has a very small minority of other races. The republicons know that there are more people in this country of all races than has been reported in the past on these census forms. This is why they are going after ACORN so hard because, they don't want them to count certain people during the census..Now it back to Fannie and Freddie Mac..

Sounds for all the world like a GOP apologist.

The right accusing the DNC of trying to get Bush assassinated would have been laughable. No so the other way around.

Come on people, please, a little objectivity and reality check. Yes, there are some racist creeps that would love to see Obama killed, but does any rational person believe that the Republican party itself wishes him dead????

:crazy:

it is not the GOP that would associate with this, it is their hangers on.

Larry Johnson was forced to do an article on his blog telling his readers to lay off the death threats (one poster who regularly made death threats was never banned, she was such a bigoted nut that she believed the President broke up their love life).

Glen Beck also told his viewers to lay off the death threats.

However they did this on purpose. This is why they back the birfers. This is why they go after Acorn. It is to delegitimise the President. Subtle and unsubtle racism. So when one of their mad "Patriots" goes after Obama and they can disassociate from them.

Remember who Bill O'Reilly disassociated his hate screeds from the views of the man who assassinated Dr Tiller.

I'm pretty confident the Secret Service will ensure that whichever nut tries anything will not be around for long and I'm grateful no one tried anything under Bush, as think of the draconian legislation that would have been passed on the back of that.

Implied consent is a form of consent which is not expressly granted by a person, but rather inferred from a person's actions and the facts and circumstances of a particular situation (or in some cases, by a person's silence or inaction).

I surf their sites and listen to their radio programs. I don't mean dozens of them. Its probably over a million of them.

but even I wouldn't say that it's emblematic of a TV network or an entire political party.

In all and utter fairness, when Bush was POTUS they made a MOVIE about his assassination. I wonder how the same movie about Obama
would play here...

andit was certainly not about encouraging the assassination of President Bush, it was a "mockumentary" about the consequences of something like that happening in the post 9/11 world.

:eyes:

and yes, that includes former President Clinton.

It's fairly obvious what they want.

I on the other hand cannot turn a blind eye and dismiss the behaviour of the Republican party and their instigation of the situation. They are not stupid and there is enough evidence to show people are going crazy. Did you forget the people showing up at Obama rallies (granted before he arrives) with guns in the number of dozens? Did you even forget the shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum? Bless you for defending this crap. This party is as much to blame and even threatening the life of the President as the fools who actually act on it because they don't denounce it but further the issue. They don't denounce Rush or the FOX News.

There are obviously people who would prefer if Obama were not alive, but to state that the Republican party and FOX want him dead is overreacting and not true in my opinion. They want him out of office and they sure as hell want to see him fail as president, but dead? I doubt it. I think that those kind of blanket statements actually dilute the argument, just like labeling as racists everyone who protests against health care or the economy. Are some of them racists? Yes, of course. Are all of them? No, I don't think so.

that shit will freak you out

Too mindless

If they aren't trying to foment violence I can't explain what they are doing.

of the things their "newsreporters" have let fly with. Such patriotic Americans them.... such bought and paid for motormouths.

These people are clearly insane and they think their cause is righteous enough to kill for.

Rp

What else could they be doing by whipping up all that rage? A mob is forming. Getting them all together means that they'll do things in a group that they would never do alone. Dick Armey and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and Glen Beck know this.

No one can deny the malice or hostility of the Torture Party.
They openly call for our destruction.
They're eager to finish the job of finishing off the United States.
They're traitors. Of this there is no doubt.
No, we can't strike first.
But if armed pukes make their move they must be made to pay
such a price that they'll wish they had never heard of Republicans.
If armed traitors are being issued instructions by Fox News, then Fox News
has to be eliminated. Immediately.
I'd be in favor of hanging imported traitor Murdock in that case too.
(Actually I'm in favor of it now but don't have an excuse.)
Yes watching my nation torn down by corporate stooges has hardened my attitude.
But I haven't started hunting them for sport. Yet.

nice visual!

as much as I hate it, that would be the ultimate victory for them

What Fox is interested in tabloid, sensationalistic, the crazier and more amplified, the better kind of journalism. Amps at 11? For children. They can take it to twelve or thirteen. The more worked up the people get, the more people will watch, the more money they'll spend on Fox's products.

If, God forbid, something should happen to the President, there will not be a moment's breadth between the incident and the popular lynching of various Fox personalities. The studios would be engulfed by rioters. I'm sure, even if Glenn Beck is off the rails, the producers are well aware of these things.

The GOP has everything to lose by it as well. Imagine the popular groundswell, the electoral revolt that would occur should something happen. As things stand now, the GOP believe the economy and health care will bring them tantalizingly close to control of Congress in the near future - if not the presidency. All of that would be gone in the event of assassination.

I do get nervous when I see the President in open areas. I cringe. I do worry.

However, I don't have short-term memory. The previous eight years where the lunatics on my side lusted for assassination, tossed out books, plays, and films, and wrote prominent columns yearning for a Lee Harvey Oswald are still fresh in my mind. This is what happens when people lose their shit. Did people who decided the Bush administration warranted every bit of hatred and crazy weren't going to see all of that boomerang back upon them once a Democrat was in office?

That's the problem with hatred. It never ends. It just goes 'round and 'round.

The only thing I even heard the right come up with about left wing threats was that some Canadian author wrote a fictional book about a president being assassinated. It wasn't even Bush. There was a big uproar about that.

There was also mass uproar just because a left wing contributer to MoveOn.org compared Bush to Hitler. The right does that type of thing all over the place with Obama.

ALSO:

Fox News and the right are not worried about getting blamed for an assassination. People raised the "they wouldn't dare" argument when Bush was lying about the WMD. I told people back then that the GOP would just lie about it. There would be a public fight and the RW would pull strings and get the upper hand, just like they nearly always do. The same would come from an assassination. They'd scream that the left is worse and the right shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of a lone kook. They'd say they have to defend themselves. There have been acts of violence already. Was the right hurt by them?

There is no comparison between left and right on this one.

I heard a lot of condemnation of his and Cheney's policies and I subscribe whole heartedly to his condemnation for bankrupting the nation and total misuse of the military to pursue the PNAC's ideological nitwit programs.

And I apologize for the link. I googled it, and the results were all conservative blogs:

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2004/10/trendy-european-leftists-call-for

There would be threads now and then on DU that the mods and admins would have to leap on and delete. And let's not forget, for all we complain about Obama = Hitler rhetoric on the radical right, that stuff was matter of course during the Bush administration. Hell, a foreigner could be forgiven, at one point, for thinking the president's name actually was Bushitler.

It was similar in that if a president is villified in enough immoderate terms, eventually an unstable person might be prodded into thinking they'd be welcomed as a hero for taking him out. That is the point of that kind of rhetoric, isn't it? If America was a single step away from a nazi state, devolving into true fascism, then by golly, why doesn't someone do something about it?

That kind of stuff was very widespread during Bush's administration. It's already widespread on the radical right now that Obama is in office. I fear for President Obama a bit more, because the volatile, deeply dangerous ingredient of race is added to the mix. (I would also argue that, pace Sullivan, it is less acceptable for the right to be engaging in this as Bush hatred was born of actual things he had done, whereas Obama hatred is far more rooted in who the President is).

But it did exist. I think some serious partisan blinders are required to be genuinely puzzled or unaware of the run-away radical hatred of Bush that got a lot of play in various quarters. Could anyone imagine a right-wing film maker created a film based on Obama's assassination with a scene showing it? The outrage would never end - rightly so - and no excuse or justification would suffice.

I absolutely loathe this stuff, and it's depressing it's so endemic in American discourse. The Right went absolutely beserk against Clinton, and he was about as moderate as presidents come. The the Left went beserk against Bush (with plenty of justification, in my mind), and now the Right is going beserk against President Obama. It seems to be getting worse and worse over time. I'm not sure what the underlying causes are. Maybe the internet and cable news, the opportunity to tailor and intensify partisan views through so many media choices. Wherever this is going is nowhere good, and I do share a lot of the fear here that we might have to watch something horrible before the nation comes to its damn senses about hate and its corrosive effects on our discourse.

I admit my real life to internet translator has been a bit wonky lately, though.

convince them with compassion and tap into their moral code to see what they are doing is not the right thing to do. It's why I highlight the bible a lot, the word it contains can at least convince them at least on some levels. It's not that I'm saying folks have to believe their faith but get them better to understand their own. There is a message of peace in their book, it's only some have never read it at all. It's cool if folks disagree I'm just trying figure every way I can to cool things down.

dems go there to be a "chew-toy", but republicans are always handled with kid gloves and fawned over.

It sickens me to see CNN & MSNBC mimicking them.

Ed, Rachel & Keith for 3 hours total..5 days a week..no match for 24/7 total spin from Fox..:puke:

because that is THEM.

but violence? you bet!

by the Secret Service. I think that Obama may be the best protected non-dictator in the history of the world. He may be one of the bravest persons in the world, knowing each time he appears in public that there is likely somebody out there in person who would like to kill him and is crazy enough to try. I am betting he is more concerned for the safety of others who might be hurt than he is for his own safety.

However, if and when this happens public opinion will come down on the Republicans like a ton of bricks. There are millions of voters in this country who are not Democrats and who do not subscribe to the nutcase philosophy of the 25%ers. Then the GOP will truly become the fringe lunatic party.

Faux wants ratings, and they know where to get them, uneducated, ignorant, racist White people. Sure, that Demo may not get you control of Congress or the White House, but it does get you ratings.

They keep this demo by confirming and feeding their ignorance on a daily basis.

Now, does this mean that they want someone to harm Obama? No. Because if something like that were to happen, Faux would get a huge share of the blame, and a grieving public would take out its anger on Faux. It would be the end of Faux as we know it.

Their objective would have been achieved through Fox "News" so it wouldn't matter to them. They would just start up another right wing TV network.

"white people under attack"

they think that don't realize that they will get more than they bargain for..

First off, if President Obama were assassinated, this nation would undergo a dramatic change. President Obama would be seen as a dead martyr, racism would be seen as the underlying cause for the assassination and the GOP and FOX and Glen Beck and etc would be seen as the obvious instigators.

The assassination of President Obama would instantly galvanize our nation to action against the hate mongers. With President Biden (who I might remind you is to the left of President Obama), at the helm of an outraged and fully focused nation, FOX News would be running for cover and all the racists would head underground. Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh and likely many in the GOP past and present would see themselves before Congress explaining their actions-many of them would wind up behind bars.

No, I am convinced that the very last thing the GOP and FOX and Beck and etc. want to see is the assassination or even the attempt of an assassination on President Obama. They don't want the focused attention of our nation on them like that.

I believe what you are seeing, what you are, (and should be), concerned over, is a GOP orchestrated multi-pronged plan to rally every single vote they can to their side for the next election. They are fomenting HATE to rally those with hate in their hearts. They foment FEAR for those with little to no understanding that their fears are misguided. They want these emotions spread throughout the citizenry because mad and scared citizens will get out and VOTE against the things which scare and anger them. The GOP is using FOX and Beck and Limbaugh and etc. to dumb down, piss off and scare the citizenry in order to attempt a comeback in future elections.

This is a risky move on their part, if things go right they will have strengthened their base. If things go wrong, if there is an assassination attempt or worse...

well hopefully I've talked you down.

I am convinced from listening to them that their message has become more and more intense and it is fueled by blind hatred. I would agree that the Republican politicians see your way, but their silence has provided a degree of credibility to the most extreme factions of their party.

Regarding the OP: "The GOP and FOX are trying to get Obama assassinated"
"..... They hope, in the very least, to initiate a violent overthrow of the government. The GOP, FOX news, and the fringe are all one entity now, with FOX pulling the strings. Their madness is calculated and designed to push people over the brink."

Do you really think that the GOP and Fox are in collusion with the intent to get the POTUS assassinated and somehow perform a "violent overthrow", a coup on the US Government? Just for the sake of my understanding on this notion, giving the minority party Blackwater/Xe and every gun toting racist kool-aid drinker in America, how exactly are they supposed to defeat We The People and our sworn protectors: THE GREATEST MILITARY this planet has ever seen?

I dunno, the further notion in the OP that FOX is pulling the strings sounds like a rejected plot for a 1960s James Bond movie. So where do you suppose Rupert Murdock's super secret headquarters base is, in a volcano, under the sea or on the moon?

Historically the GOP used HATE and FEAR to rally and strengthen their base. It once worked so well that it swept Newt Gingrich's crowd into majority power under the popular Bill Clinton Presidency. It's what the conservatives have always done and I think this is exactly what they are trying to do again. This is why the GOP leaders are silent on all this HATE and FEAR fomenting. They know it brings them votes.

Going over the line with HATE and FEAR mongering runs the risk of being noticed by We The People, (as opposed to being noticed by 'we the nutters'). For instance, Glen Beck has stepped over the line a few times too many, We The People took notice and viola his sponsors stopped advertising during his broadcasts. Do you suppose it was FOX's intentions to see Beck's sponsors go elsewhere? No, it didn't hurt that cockroach or FOX but my point is that these guys did NOT want the added attention from We The People! They are playing to the kool-aid drinkers only, they rally their base for the next election.

An attempt on the life of a popular President Obama would have more of an affect than the mere shifting of sponsorship for Fox News. I believe, under current circumstances, if there is some kind of an attempted assassination or coup, that will be the end of everything FOX and the GOP holds dear and they know it.

as in Tim McVeigh

The GOP would rather poison the Valley/Nation than relinquish control.

Like a spoiled Bully throwing temper tantrums breaking windows and shit...blind rage over not getting HIS WAY...

A vast majority of American's realize these people are idiots. I believe that it is at its high point right now.

These people are such fools that no one with a brain and/or integrity will want to associate with them. The media is still ga ga about this story and these idiotic freaks but they will slowly move to the margins where they belong as the media gains their composer.

Unfortunately, I do believe they've managed to confuse stuff. They will be drunk with their own power for awhile. In the end however, we will prevail.

It will take a struggle but we will hold our ground in the 2010 election and then demolish them in 2012.

It matters not what the 'media' says about them. They have their own media and their own 'reality'

There's no way you can watch that idiot's show and not see the bloodlust!

I don't think they are thinking it through that far. I think they are using fear and hate to gin up ratings and support. They are also very angry and frustrated and want everyone else to he as angry and frustrated as they are - but the driving force is that this is working for them right now. I believe they are thinking in a very short-term way, not long-term.

But they are just as dangerous because no matter what they're intention is, their words and actions have the potential for real danger.

because I'm standing next to you on the ledge.

the end result could be what you suggest.
Its like I said all during the primaries. The BEST thing that could happen for the reich wing media would be for Mr Obama to win the election. They were creaming their jeans when he DID win. They KNEW their ratings would soar with their viewers/listeners.

Eight or nine year olds, who were not considering the consequences of their actions, only the excitement of the moment. They don't really expect to hit it. When one of them does and it shatters, they panic and run away. If asked, they'll tell you they weren't doing anything but they didn't mean to hit it, and that the light bulb broke. It's the light bulb's fault.

If somebody takes a shot at the president, who has Beck, Coulter, Hannity, books in their personal library, those rabble rousers will blame the rabble, who have no more sense than the light bulb. I don't think the howlers envision an assassination attempt or a violent coup, they are just throwing rocks for excitement. The results are not their concern now.

--imm

Faux will continue to further the deterioration of the Repug party.

Ruppert Murdochs holdings in the US media market and other Mega media must be broken up to allow more competetion.

Faux, Murdoch, Limpballs, and the others play with this dangerous fire at their own peril. I will leave it at that....

but they'd go balls to wall on that rather than have him succeed even moderately because even weak progress moves the needle off the Reagan rut of the last 30 years. If we make progress towards undoing Reaganism then the Republics are left without even fumes to run off of. Even Newt's bogus revolution was merely a restating of the standard bullshit, the Republicans haven't had any ideas in many years.

Defeat the ghost of St. Ronnie of the Ray Gun and the country inevitably and automatically moves to the left and away from the brink. Every little chip that can be made in the you are on your own, authoritarian, theocratic, and trickle down ideology is shaking the jinga that is the Republican party and large chunks of conservative ideology as we know it.
They can't have ANY messing around with it, even actions to sure up the wobbling tower of babbling put it at significant risk of falling down. Obama is real threat to some part of the power structure because they do protest a bit too damn much and that means they'll do what they can to discredit him but whacking any threat is ALWAYS if possible on the table. How FDR stayed above ground is well beyond me. His time wasn't that distant that he didn't have much of the same opposition.

as a scapegoat. If they succeed, they will create a monster in more ways than one. In the first place Joe Biden is much less likely to compromise with them than Obama. He is much less moderate too. And most of us will rise up in arms against their vitriol. Nancy Pelosi will not be the scapegoat. Fox, Boehner, McConnell, O'Reilley, Limpballs et all will rue the day they were born. The GOP will go down.

Head Strong: Dangerous times again, as hatred flows

By Michael Smerconish - Inquirer
Sun, Sep. 20, 2009

A first-of-his-kind president is suspected by some of conspiring with anti-Christians. He is treated inhospitably in classrooms and associated with communism on posters. He is accused of awarding government jobs to radicals.
Sound familiar?

snip

It's impossible to read this without wondering about the present.

Protesters marched on Washington carrying signs that read "Bury Obamacare with Kennedy," "Impeach the Muslim Marxist," and "We came unarmed . . . this time." A member of Congress shouted down the president and raked in more than $1.5 million in campaign contributions in the days that followed. Cable TV's hottest personality just called the commander-in-chief a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred for white people."

Kashner reminds us that some Dallas schoolchildren booed Kennedy's name in classrooms, and others in a fourth-grade class cheered when told of his assassination. Today, some found it objectionable that the president would speak to children about personal responsibility in a school setting on the grounds of potential indoctrination. A swastika was painted on a sign outside the district office of Georgia Congressman David Scott last month. And don't forget the Obama-as-Joker posters - emblazoned with the word "socialism" - that began popping up this summer.

The vast majority of the president's harsh critics are rightfully concerned about the size of government. But there's also little doubt that some of the vehemence directed at the president is racially motivated. It can't be proven, and it can't be quantified. But logic dictates that if the protests are driven entirely by worries over the expanded reach of government and increased federal deficit, there would have been signs of similar agitation during the Bush administration.

full article:

http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/20090920_Head_Strong__Dangerous_times_again__as_hatred_flows.html

All were far right wing anti-government whack jobs.

They're just trying to neutralize his considerable appeal. His is one voice they can't shout down, and they fear defeat at his hands. They don't want him dead; they want him tame.

I tell her that he has Secret Service protection the likes of which we can't even imagine. I also suspect that some of the teabaggers in those crowds are undercover Secret Service. I think something violent is going to happen among the protesters at one of those gatherings, but I don't think Obama will be anywhere near it. Some people in the crowd will be the ones to be injured and lose their lives. We still pray for his safety.

And several being arrested. That wasn't my understanding. Not to mention I wasn't aware that there were concerted efforts by several people to already kill our president even before he was President (which were luckily taken out before they got anywhere).

then there isn't much that can be done to talk you down.

for the fact that Cheney was worse and Condi and all of his crazy pack...

the only difference being we wanted to save lives by his leaving office...they just want Obama gone because he has a chance to be like JFK and Lincoln.

I would not wish that on anyone.

Another consideration is that it would have made Bush a martyr that Cheney could have used to be even more evil (if that is possible).

I don't think so.