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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:14 PM Original message |
We need to call the Iraq and Afghan wars what they are: IMPERIALISM |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. But we need to fight them over there... |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. . |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. +1 |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. K&R |
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DrToast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. No "we" don't |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Why on earth would you defend staying in Afganistan? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
72. one could have argued doing the afghanistan mission properly... back in 2002. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. So what if he said he would muck it all up? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Why do so many people here sound like they'd have been Humphrey delegates in 1968? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
129. Humphrey referred to Vietnam as our country's greatest adventure |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. self-delete |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. Call it whatever the fuck you want. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Those wars were started by reactionaries. That means they can only have |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Yawn. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. You don't care that we're killing for nothing in Afghanistan |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. No I don't give a fuck what you think. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Actually no. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I respond to people who's opinions mean |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. It's the wars that are terrible, not the government |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. No you assume that the US can't do anything positive in Afghanistan. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. If our troops haven't managed anything positive so far |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Why do you want him to fail? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Staying in the war would be failure. Getting out and letting us solve our OWN problems |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. It's sickening that you would make such an argument. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
93. It's sickening that I'd make an argument for a humane approach to the world? |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #93 |
119. What's the matter don't like having your ideas challenged? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #119 |
126. I'm fine with having my ideas challenged. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Couldn't answer my question could you. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #127 |
131. Nothing is ever worse than a continuing shooting war |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. Not good enough. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. You asked for a response, I gave you a good one. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. And I gave you another. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Of course not. Obama makes it sound pretty |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. By your refusal to make any case for staying in Afghanistan, you've admitted |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. More bullshit. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. People are dying anyway |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. So you don't care if they die? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. It can't be "progressive" to pretend that we can stop the misery |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. You keep telling me that I believe we can't win. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. This is not a liberal war and there hasn't been a liberal war since 1945 |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. So says the great Ken Burch. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. That was in the post 9/11 paranoia days. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #95 |
153. So DK caved to political pressure? |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
123. How many decades are you going to use that excuse? |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. I was ready to add stars to the American flag for Iraq and Afghanistan |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Afganistan is an unwinnable and immoral conflict |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. What's immoral about capturing Bin Laden? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. We'll never capture the guy, and you know it(assuming he's alive) |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Bush didn't carry on Bush's futility. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. And the only people who would have died in a low yield nuclear attack |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. A citizenry is as rsponsible for its' government |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Deleted message |
WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I'm not a right winger, I'm just not pro life |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. "My disregard for life in some circumstances may horrify you, but it doesn't make me right wing" |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Do you support abortion rights? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Associating abortion with bombing children suggests.... |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I don't believe life begins at conception |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. "I also don't believe life is sacred either. " |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. That doesn't make me right wing |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. If you pulled this shit on Canada |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Please, Canada can't even stop the Quebecois Resistance |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Not sure if thats a joke or a right-wing expression of superiority |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. It was a joke |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #87 |
101. Actually, Canada DID stop the armed wing of Quebec separatism in 1970 |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. The Taliban didn't attack us, Bin Laden did |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Would you bomb Northern Ireland? |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. If they were behind 9/11 or a similar act of terrorism |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. You've given all of us a very chilling look at your internal pathology |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. With one small addendum |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
98. So the 9/11 dead matter and no other deaths in history matter? |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Not at all |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #102 |
109. So we had the war. We attacked them. Enough already |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Capturing or killing Bin Laden would stop billions in funding though |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #111 |
137. Bin Laden's OWN funds were frozen years ago. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #102 |
144. We were attacked by a handful of criminals funded by Saudi Arabia... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. You can't hold the Afghan people responsible for what the TALIBAN did |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Yes you can. This man here NEVER picked up a rifle against the Taliban |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. More to the point, his parents never fought the Taliban control. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. So kill the children! Their parents suck! |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. And if the Taliban had simply let us have Bin Laden |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. It makes no difference. The Taliban exists, because of the people, so children deserve to die |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. I never said they deserve to die |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #84 |
92. I don't care that you live |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. And you have now become me. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Except Im not cheering on actions that produce massive civilian casualties perpetually |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. And I'm not "Cheering on" civillian casualties |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
73. The lives of those 3,000 people are not more important |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. We probably killed thousands of French Resistance fighters |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. World War II was the last justifiable war. |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. Really, our freedom was never on the line. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. The death of one man is an Ends that justifies the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians? |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #103 |
112. Hitler was one man, how many did we kill to stop him? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Bin Laden isn't anywhere near comparable to Hitler. |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. You pulled the Hitler card first |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #112 |
118. There was more than one lunatic running that operation |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. The country was a war machine, mind you. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. You have become a douche bag |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Ken brought up Hitler, not me. |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. This sub-thread started when I challenged Ken's claim of Imperialism |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #94 |
105. Punishing ALL Afghans for Bin Laden isn't though. |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
142. I believe bin laden said the same about us in one of his many tapes. n/t |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. True. The Ends ALWAYS justify the Means |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. I'm going to offend you horribly now |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. "I don't care that they are dead" |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. And your "No war is good war" opinion |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. You just created a straw man as a cherry on top of the asinine filth milkshake you spewed |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Strawman? What circumstances do you support war? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. When people like you control the government, destroying life and robbing the people's wealth |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. +1 |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. So you only support war against people you know |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Only the Taliban supported Bin Laden. NOT THE AFGHAN PEOPLE |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. And the Taliban refused to let us strike at Bin Laden in Afghanistan |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. We've struck back already. We've probably killed more innocent Afghans |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #76 |
89. Dead Afghans are not the goal, they are a by product |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #89 |
99. It's impossible to capture Bin Laden. And you can't sacrifice a whole country |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #99 |
128. We sacrificed several to get Hitler. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #128 |
136. That's different. Afganistan is beyond being rebuilt |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. No it's not different. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. It IS different. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. Let me know when we carpet bomb or Nuke Afghanistan. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #141 |
150. If we escalate, that will inevitably lead to things like carpet bombing |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 08:15 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. Did we carpet bomb Iraq when we escalated their? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Pretty much. |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #71 |
121. With friends like you... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. When our territory is under attack |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. But we were attacked on 9/11 |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. Rudy Giuliani called. He wants his bit back |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. All I can say to that is... |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #74 |
117. Listen, you pulled the dead baby card like the Pro-lifers do |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #74 |
145. Oh MAN. That HURTS! |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. You'd have backed Humphrey against Teddy's brother. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
86. Well, for one thing, he's dead. |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. And what we are doing is hardly Imperialism either. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. If the war started for dominaince in the Middle East, it can only be for dominance |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. So we should let Bin Laden walk just because Bush & Cheney |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I'm not an apologist for the Taliban |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. That may apply to Iraq, but it doesn't apply to Afghanistan |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. The Afghan people don't want us there and we can't bring anything good to the place |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
55. So you think best idea is |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. There's nothing WE can achieve |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. "He never promised to leave Afghanistan" |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. It's not wrong to oppose the Afghan war |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
63. Our candidate was elected after promising to INCREASE the number of troops in Afghanistan |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #63 |
80. You're still "ALL THE WAY WITH LBJ"... |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
104. I think the person to whom you are responding was addressing an inaccuracy of yours |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #63 |
134. He also promised to repeal DADT, push for universal health care, |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
132. Those DUers that support continuing the war in Afghanistan, should trade places with our soldiers |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #132 |
146. Good plan, IG. |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
143. Completely agreed. We need to end this shit, now. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
147. I can tell you that the President wasn't elected to reduce US power in the world |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #147 |
148. Fighting the war in Afghanistan |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #148 |
149. Explain that to the voters... |
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jeanpalmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #149 |
151. Well that's his job |
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