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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:45 PM
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What does it say about us as a country that healthcare has to be deficit neutral, but not wars?
Good question asked by both David Shuster and Tamron Hall today.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:46 PM
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1. Wars of choice, no less n/t
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:47 PM
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2. And budgeted items go wanting due to reckless tax cuts for the wealthy. nt
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:48 PM
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3. Wars are *supposed to be* extraordinary events. Healthcare is a constant.
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 03:50 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
All wars *should be* emergencies and emergencies are typically not deficit neutral.

The big problem with wars is blowing people up, not fiscal impact.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:18 PM
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8. yes, and the ones we're in now don't really qualify for that. you deficit spend in a real war so the
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 04:19 PM by dionysus
country doesn't get obliterated. i wouldn't say perpetual deficit spending for health care is a good idea, but a better idea then blowing the borrowed money in iraq.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 07:26 PM
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15. In most budgeting processes, events that occur for seven consecutive years
shouldn't be regarded as extraordinary.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:48 PM
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4. It says something pretty damned shameful.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:20 PM
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9. in a WW2 situation i'd say deficit spending is fine. but not the crap we're involved in the middle e
Edited on Wed Oct-07-09 04:21 PM by dionysus
perpetual deficit spending of any kind is bad, but better health care then wars we don't need.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:52 PM
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5. It says we are mostly a bunch of fuckheads!
The country is being run by a bunch of greedy blood-thirsty bastids!
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:54 PM
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6. Thanatos has always prevailed over eros, here...
Except for short periods, like the 60's, which are quickly suppressed, etc...
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 03:54 PM
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7. Yeap,...
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:24 PM
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10. War isn't supposed to be commonplace
If we or our allies are being attacked we can't and shouldn't be counting pennies under a state of emergency.

The real question is why are we jumping into military adventurism and making was both a choice and matter of fact.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:31 PM
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11. The question answers itself, doesn't it?
To our everlasting shame...
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:38 PM
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12. Health care HAS to be deficit neutral. Wars sorta end. Health care won't
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:36 PM
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13. I like question.
:thumbsup:
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 06:36 PM
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14. Wa are pro-death!
Death for everyone. Death from lack of health care. Death by friendly fire. Death by terrorists. Death by drones. Dea Death if you sign up to protect Iowa and get sent to Iraq for seven years. . Death is pro-American. Everyone can understand death. It's doesn't care about your skin color. Of course if you are richer-there is less of it, and you probably don't have to go to Afghanistan for eight years in the hopes of affording a college education some day.

But I love America! It's death friendly and death competent. It knows how to talk the death talk and die the death talk. Death for all unless you are very rich, then profit! It's a win-win!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 09:27 PM
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16. The truth: we value killing, but not life.
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