It's not an award, it's a straightjacket.

Romulox

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Fri Oct-09-09 12:26 PM
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It's not an award, it's a straightjacket.

How can Obama accept the Nobel Peace Prize then authorize a new "surge" into Afghanistan, consisting of as many as 60,000 troops? It would be like handing live ammunition to his critics. Thus, in my opinion, the granting of this award was meant as a check on the expansion of war in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran.

I think the Nobel people are the ones playing chess at the moment.

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Parker CA

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Fri Oct-09-09 12:29 PM
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1. I believe this is definitely part of it. Their attempt to push him in a certain direction. I'm not

sure if it will have the impact they intend, but I'm sure it will create a moment of pause.

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valerief

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Fri Oct-09-09 12:29 PM
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2. We can only hope their move will work! nt

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dflprincess

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Fri Oct-09-09 12:30 PM
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3. I'm fine with it having that kind of effect on the Afghanistan escalation

Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 12:32 PM by dflprincess

Especially as I heard this morning that we're willing to deal with the Taliban :wtf: because we're really just after Al Queda. So much for staying there to protect the women of Afghanistan.

Mostly, though, I thought this was just a real slap at Bush - which I was also fine with.

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gateley

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Fri Oct-09-09 12:32 PM
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5. Or (my opinion) sincerely acknowledging how he's already changed the tone

in world diplomacy. :shrug:

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MarjorieG

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Fri Oct-09-09 12:31 PM
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4. I agree as an encouragement, it has a direction, but the 'surge' would mean cooperating with

Taliban, something I hear Obama is considering, as a focus on Al-Quaeda not nation-building. Although we probably owe them after wrecking then leaving twice before, we need to rebuild our own nation.

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SIMPLYB1980

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Fri Oct-09-09 12:39 PM
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6. What are they going to do?

Ask for it back?
:rofl: :popcorn:

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Romulox

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Fri Oct-09-09 12:48 PM
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8. Remember, the power of moral suasion is the only power held by the committee...

The idea is to make it politically untenable for the President to escalate the existing wars (or to encourage war on Iran by proxy.)

It's not that Nobel Committee is unaware that the President is currently prosecuting two wars. :hi:

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SIMPLYB1980

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Fri Oct-09-09 12:52 PM
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10. You think that is what this does? O.K.

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/SID-DE585210-4ED99281/natolive/news_56075.htm?selectedLocale=en

"NATO’s Afghanistan mission will soon benefit from better ways of sharing critical information among coalition members, tested in a major ‘interoperability demonstration’ held in Lillehammer, Norway, 10-25 June.

The NATO Coalition Warrior Interoperability Demonstration (CWID), is an annual trial of new concepts and technologies that allow Allies to better work together. It is organized by NATO’s Allied Command Transformation.

This year it focused specifically on solutions for the Afghanistan mission and was attended by the Military Committee, NATO’s top advisory body on military issues."

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sharp_stick

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Fri Oct-09-09 12:40 PM
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7. Oh Yeah

because once you accept the award you must be contractually obligated to carry out the foreign policy wishes of the Norwegian group that provided the award. :sarcasm:

Wow quite the chess move there. Them Norwegians are some sneaky, must be the lack of sunlight in the winter.

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dflprincess

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Fri Oct-09-09 01:02 PM
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11. Not just the lack of sun

but they're all a bunch of Socialists - what can you expect from that sort? :sarcasm:

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Aramchek

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Fri Oct-09-09 12:49 PM
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9. Obama was already planning on denying the Surge, that's why McChrystal has been acting the fool

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