"He hasn't done anything to deserve the Nobel Prize" = "Who does this nig**r think he is?"

Yeah, I said it.

And they're getting madder and madder and sloppier and sloppier to the point that one of them is going to slip up and say it for real.

see it when you read it.

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Even though our nation has been badly crippled by the arrogant Bush-Cheney administration, we still are the most powerful nation in the world with massive military capacity. What I see in President Obama is a dramatic departure from the Bush administrations absolute misuse of this power to achieve their political goals. This goal was the stated goal of the PNAC neo-cons that dominated the Bush-Cheney administration to dominate control of the Middle East oil reserves which they continue to believe is essential for the maintenance of our power.

I believe that what the awarding the Nobel Peace Price to President Obama signifies is their recognition of the dramatic renouncement of the PNAC's policies of the use of our military might to subjugated defenseless nations. It represents a denouncement of the Bush administrations policies that justified exploitation by greedy power hungary madmen that, at worst, could result in catastrophic nuclear warfare. Isn't it a fact that it is the abuse of power by the Western nations of the sovereignty of the Middle Eastern countries that is a major factor for the hatred and contempt in which the majority of people in this region rightly hold for us? Obama represents hope for a douncement of these policies that have resulted in division and hatred.

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And of course the far right.

had a lot of moments like that.

They've just been hit in the head with a shovel.

Except that Gabby made more sense.

to say "sorry about the 'up yours', I baked you a pie.......you won't say anything about this, will you?"

Life imitates art. In a few years, 'Blazing Saddles' will be required viewing for PoliSci classes.

Maybe it'll be a sweet potato pie. It should be humble pie they start baking - for themselves. With eggs, assuming there are any left over besides all the egg on all of their faces.

And you make another terrific point. "Blazing Saddles" really should be played in PoliSci classes. It's a fantastic example of social satire and the arts commenting on politics.

And as far as the potential pie-baker... heavens - michele bachmann? "mean jean" schmidt? virginia foxx? Maybe ileana ros lehtinen? Makes me chuckle just to think about it!

:rofl:

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...and called him glenn beck!
:rofl:

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song.

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and yes, it's coming. I'm ashamed to be American today when I should be proud.

I'm shocked by some of the anti-Obama crap I've been reading, not on FR, but here on DU today.

We got more on the left than on the right.

It's been shocking.

Ignore today - I virtually always have given old-timers a pass in the past. But no more.

DU has a whole shitload of racist and RW Ivans, it appears.

This morning some DUers agreed with a right wing asshole who said Obama only received the award because his black because. I was really shocked to see people on DU agree with that bullshit.

This morning some DUers agreed with a right wing asshole who said Obama only received the award because his black because. I was really shocked to see people on DU agree with that bullshit.

I had been tombstoned. Today the board disgusted me like no other day since I've been here. I stayed today in order to counteract the hate. If it's still going on tomorrow I'm outta here.

Please reconsider.

They just find new things to hate him about.

but not like this. It seems that since he can't realistically be distinguished from the regular run in the mill black folk within the black community ("he's half white"), then now we can bash him as a n*****r! That, in and of it self, is most revealing about the insincerity and facade of the liberal party.

of the party are good. But here on DU, people just trash and trash and trash but heaven forbid we wonder why it is that it's the black President they hate. And I guess since nobody's gonna admit being racist, we're just supposed to sit here and take all the constant trashing of Obama. We're not even allowed to wonder.

Well, piss on that! I'm wondering.

like to believe that but I have severe doubts.

unrec it, then they can't be racist, right? Disgusting.

I am heartily ashamed of some Americans because they just don't "get" it that, by honoring our President, the Nobel Prize committee has acknowledged that our nation has rejoined the global community in a positive manner.
That doesn't mean that everything we are doing is perfect or that Obama's policies don't need adjustment and correction. It does mean that under Obama the disastrous course that was set under *Co and that was adversely affecting other nations on the globe (not only the obvious Iraq and Afghanistan), as well as adversely affecting our own global interests, has taken a new tack that inspires all nations that there is indeed light at the end of the very dark tunnel *Co plunged us into. And the real hope is that the light is not a nuclear holocaust.

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You'll be gone soon but just know you failed miserably.

And full scale public KKK meetings are not far behind... mark my words... hate is in vogue, folks.

raise tons of money by saying the most vile things about our president. They become instant celebrities, especially around here. It's amazing that some people will open up their wallets to people like Joe Wilson, et al.

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be thinking that.

have one good thing to say about Obama. It is NOT POSSIBLE for a nonracist democrat to hate every single thing about this president. NOT POSSIBLE.

is....racist.

like that Obama has done. Something. If not, I'm free to wonder about their motives.

is a discussion board but by and large people discuss news topics. Most of these topics would fall into the "bad news" category as "good news" is considered boring and lacks ratings.

Therefore, the majority of topics will be on things that President Obama has said or done that would generate discussion. Because we are democrats, we do not simply follow a leader because he is the head of our party. That would be Free Republic. You have a larger pool of discussion topics that are controversial vs non-controversial so it stands to reason that when President Obama does something that is not keeping with a purely progressive theme, we tend to bitch.

We also have a cheer-leading section here who do not like to acknowledge that President Obama is not the Messiah.

It really goes both ways, but to sum it up - you are overreacting and making it worse by calling fellow democrats racist.

even when they LOVED everything about Clinton, a centrist if there ever was one, then you better believe I'll wonder if they're racist.

in disguise who were anxious to see a woman become president. I saw things from them during the campaign that were blatantly racist so yes, I concede that I suppose these people could technically be called democrats because they registered as democrats and yes, they were racist.

But the progressive members of our party are not racist - they are angry about things which have nothing to do with race.

Things such as the continuation of two wars, DADT, the Marriage Act, comprising away Health Care in the name of bi-partisanship, - just to name a few, are why some progressives are angry and it has nothing to do with race.

That is really a condescending statement. I don't remember anyone here claiming Obama is the Messiah, except for those campaigning against him. He's not perfect, but he is a far cry from being as horrible as some posters on this board try to paint him as being.

I think he's a good president who has gone a long way to living up to the promises he ACTUALLY made. The people doing the most pissing and moaning are the people who are pretending he promised something that he didn't. For example, he said all of the way through his campaign that his goal was to get combat troops out of Iraq during the 1st 18 months of his presidency. Also, that he would be as careful getting out as Bush was careless getting into Iraq. He's keeping those promises. He has been in office 8 months and is reducing the troop levels. He has 10 months to go. Yet there are daily grip sessions because he hasn't kept his promises to end the war in Iraq.

He has kept his promises, he just hasn't kept the fantasy promises some here thought he made. There are also some here complaining that he isn't fighting for single payer health insurance. This is something that he never promised that he would fight for yet he is some kind of satan for not fighting hard enough for.

I could go on.

It seems to me that the people who think he is the Messiah are the people griping because he hasn't created world peace and rid of the world of illness and bigotry yet. And not the ones who refuse to bitch about him not doing things he never promised he was going to do in the 1st place. Nor those who refuse to blame the Bush economic crisis on him.

That's something that he did well. But it certainly doesn't rank right up there as Nobel material.

And I find it rather funny, in an ironic sort of way, that a person who is implying that others around here are racist is using the old "I call a spade a spade" line. Think about it.

getting the NPP has some soul searching to do. Maybe they'd be more comfortable in the other party with all those teabaggers and birthers.

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either....what are you going to do? America is over "dumb". An intelligent man is in the white house...deal with it.

so-called liberal party. If the broad brush fits.............

As someone posted a few weeks ago, it is very interesting that it is considered much worse to have someone else called out as a racist than it is to BE a victim of racism.

People can be very sensitive at the very MENTION that something could be racist, yet they willingly turn a blind eye to the very existence of that racism.

This "discussion" is a perfect example - since the "discussion" itself is based upon the assumption b some that America's first black president is somehow undeserving of an award that has been given to hundreds of white people without a peep from any of those who are now wringing their hands about how honoring President Obama besmirches the award.

This may not seem like a big deal to some people, especially those who have never been on the receiving end of this kind of prejudice, but I will bet you that most black people on this board and elsewhere see it for what it is because we have experienced this very phenomenon throughout our lives.

I cannot tell you how many times my professional achievements have been looked at askance and attributed to some factor other than my own intelligence, talent and hard work. And on more occasions than I can count, my achievement has suddenly been seen as not such a big deal - although it WAS a big deal indeed when made by a white person - or was treated as some kind of "lowering of standards."

What is happening to the President - not just the Nobel crap, but so many other things we are seeing - is par for the course for accomplished black people. It's just getting a bigger spotlight because of who he is and what he is accomplishing. But it is nothing new. And it is sickening.

And even more disgusting is seeing how many so-called "liberal" Democrats either don't see it or refuse to see it and, in fact, play right along with it.

So, yes, I called it out for what it is. It's unfortunate that it offends you. And it's too bad that you reject it out of hand and attack me for pointing it out rather than try to actually consider the possibility that I'm speaking the truth.

is undeserving is based on racism - but I do not believe that the very progressive members of our party are racist. They are angry - but it has nothing to do with his race. They would be angry if he were white and still feel he was undeserving.

doesn't deserve it. That's just peachy.

i am not calling out any one in particular, but i've been here long enough to know that this place is indeed a microcosm of america, in every way imaginable.

to be growing.

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i can't tell you how many times i've seen that argument written here or spoken from someone's mouth. you have to be careful :scared: when you call someone a racist. funny thing though: i don't see racists like limbaugh being careful about spouting racist crap constantly.

excellent summation

And even more disgusting is seeing how many so-called "liberal" Democrats either don't see it or refuse to see it and, in fact, play right along with it.

Girl, say it again. And again. And AGAIN.

:loveya::yourock::loveya:

...who put "n***** fix" on his sign in the parking lot about healthcare reform. When interviewed, he said he's used that word all his life, so what. Big deal. "But I'm not a racist."

No. Of course you're not. It's a-okay to use the word - but not okay to think he's a racist for using it. :crazy:

Just when we thought it was one step forward in cooperation, tolerance and brotherhood inside the US, I can tell it's probably two giant steps backward....

this latest round of BS over the Nobel is another example

Including a number of people on this board. Oh, and by the way- racism isn't a race.

racist behavior towards African Americans on this Board. However, in thinking about it, I have seen racist remarks directed towards Muslims and Hispanics...so I guess I can't say that racism does not exist on this board.

And yes, I know that racism isn't a race....not sure where I made the grammatical error but thanks for pointing it out.

You not seeing it is your problem.

are.

As to my user name, "My words but a whisper - your deafness a shout".

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They've come sooo close. Pigs.

I've already said I'm proud that our president won the prize, but that doesn't discount the very real objections to awarding it to this president at this time. Playing the race card so vehemently really cheapens the discussion.

cheap.

No one's denying anything, but I tend to assume that most criticism coming from Democrats is valid while all criticism coming from Repugs is bullshit and/or racist. It's a good working hypothesis.

to racism is just silly. A black man wins the Presidency. That same black man wins hte Nobel Prize. Scores of white folks try to tell us why it really doesn't matter, it's not that big a deal, he didn't really deserve it, there was somebody more deserving of it, yadayadayada. I've heard it all before. In the south in the late 1960s. When my white family told ME why it would hurt my education if I went to school with the black children. I bought it all then, because I was a kid and those were my parents talking.

No more.

And they think that the more lofty they sound, the less likely we are to see them for what they are.

It's up to the Nobel committee and they give the prize on their terms. It is not a lifetime achievement award, something I've learned from all this. This thing about ignorant Americans is that they always assume they know what they are talking about rather than looking into things first.

and I'll say it again. It's teh same as saying the black guy isn't capable of actually winning any damned thing.

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Being a black woman I despise the word. As Effieblack wrote, one of those crazies are going to slip up and drop the n-bomb. When it happens, watch how the msm is going to try to excuse it.

every time Obama is criticized. Unbelievable.

I don't want to hear that song blaring on my local hip hop station.

You've joined the ranks of Maureen Dowd. Offended at others because of what their own inner voices tell them others must be saying.

My brother-in-law hears voices, some of which arrive at his brain via his ears, others of which are entirely self-produced. In his case, the internal, self-produced voices are beyond his control. But at least he knows to ignore the inner voices when they don't match up what the acoustic information hitting their tympani. Sometimes when they don't match up and the voices are insistent, he fact-checks them: "Ma, it is really true that the neighbor was over here last night and said he was a spy for Stalin?" ("Of course not, dear, Stalin's dead.") Or, "Ma, I was told that the neighbor actually has a tinfoil hat--does she" (Of course, the last question has the unhelpful answer: "Only in part, dear--it's a colander lined with tinfoil.")

In the days prior to hearing voices he was also around a rather diverse set of people. Okay, they were nearly all white, and pretty much every one was male (even, to hear him talk, some of the women). Eh. Data-driven earth scientists. Still, they ran the gamut from near anarchist to very conservative. One thing they all took away from their group, he was at pains to explain to me one day, was that no one person is a true portrayal of everybody in his/her group: The anarchist was not "Every Anarchist", the conservative failed to be the spit and image of a hypothetical "Generalized Conservative", etc. They were themselves, not idealized exponents of their cohorts, forever on trial as proxies for their group. That way lay stereotyping, over-generalization, and fallacy. . . . Whether the group be political, gender, ethnic, race, or any other. Their faults were their own, their virtues were their own, whatever the distribution of said faults or virtues among their peers.

Empowere posted something earlier that sums it up:

"Much of this is not based on hatred - it's confusion born of racism
Many of these people truly believe that blacks are intellectually, socially, politically and morally inferior to whites and truly cannot understand how this African-American man keeps achieving these things - and why no one else but them seems to find it strange.

What is happening conflicts with their perception of reality and it's very confusing and frustrating for them."

Same mental slur, a few different ways of phrasing it. A black man who "talks but doesn't work".

It's a racist meme at its very core... and was (and is) promoted by everybody from Glenn Beck... to Hillary Clinton.

I'm not surprised to see it on DU, just saddened... maybe 100 years from now, people won't have to work twice as hard if they're a woman, or black, or hispanic, or irish, whatever.

Until then, this will keep coming up.

Refresher, please?

..nice.

How tiresome. You do realize that most civilized people don't attempt to lock up discussions that way. Good luck in life if you look at everything that way--you're gonna need all the luck in the world. In other words, get over yourself and your wannabe victim/outrage status.

so you may not know this...
it is so tiring to hear white people lecturing black people about what we do and don't experience, and making excuses for the racism currently on display in this country.

while keeping their blinders on so they don't have to acknowledge any reality that doesn't sit well with their preconceived notions of how things are.

Here's a hint, black people don't like it when white people tell them how to see things.

Condescension in light of your overwhelming ignorance on the subject is annoying and insulting.

Is it ALWAYS about race, some ask?

It is for some people. If some individuals carry the 'uppity n****r' attitude, their criticisms are rooted in it. Rush Limbaugh exploits this whenever he can.

I didn't want to say it, but I'm glad you did.

But, on the other hand, their stupidity and anger make the award even more DELICIOUS, doesn't it!!!

I think there are plenty of non-racists, including Obama, who see that this prize obviously is not primarily for his accomplishments.

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I don't see him as a black man, a white man, or anything else other than a man, who happens to be the President.

And that n****r just might be the man that brings about real health care reform, and that would help those lower on the economic ladder where a great deal of those who despise him reside.

They will hate him all the while taking the benefits he, and the democrats have generated for them.

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Joe Wilson was a harbinger.

One of them will say it, you just know it's going to slip.

Their true colors will not be long in showing.

elaborate, if you can.

How much more elaboration do you need?:shrug:

They hate Democratic Presidents.

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