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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:35 PM
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Are these people racist?
On http://www.democracynow.org/2009/10/9/as_us_continues_afghan_iraq_occupations">Democracy Now, Naomi Klein calls Obama's award "disappointing, cheapening of the Nobel Prize," and adds: "I think it’s quite insulting. I don’t know what kind of political game they’re playing, but I don’t think that the committee has ever been as political as this or as delusional as this, frankly." On http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/9/791561/-Congratulations-President-Obama-on-the-Nobel-Peace-PrizeNow-Please-Earn-it!">Daily Kos, Michael Moore writes ironically: "Congratulations President Obama on the Nobel Peace Prize -- Now Please Earn it!" http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8299205.stm"> Mairead Maguire, the 1976 Nobel Peace Prize Winner, says she's "very disappointed" with this award, noting: "President Obama has yet to prove that he will move seriously on the Middle East, that he will end the war in Afghanistan and many other issues." And my Salon colleague, Alex Koppelman, http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/10/09/media_matters/">adds several thoughts about the efforts by the DNC and some Democratic groups to explicitly equate opposition to the Prize with "casting one's lot with terrorists."

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/10/09/obama/index.html
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:39 PM
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1. yes everybody that makes even the tiniest critical remark about Obama is racist lol . ..ok nt
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:45 PM
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2. +1
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:45 PM
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3. Check this out-



"He hasn't done anything to deserve the Nobel Prize" = "Who does this nig**r think he is?"

Yeah, I said it.

And they're getting madder and madder and sloppier and sloppier to the point that one of them is going to slip up and say it for real.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8693919

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:54 PM
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8. A lot of the RW assholes are racist. n/t
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:57 PM
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11. Why don't you go to that thread
and have it out with that person? What is up with the passive aggressive crap?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 12:55 AM
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16. Yes, exactly, msongs.
Glad you get it. :eyes:
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:37 PM
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26. +1
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:47 PM
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4. Ms. Maguire was very admirable for her efforts (with Betty Williams)..
I doubt she's a racist. But given that it took 22 more years for peace to come to Northern Ireland, a cynic in retrospect might think her prize was at the very least premature.
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:48 PM
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5. Those who say he only won because his black makes me wonder.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:50 PM
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6. The RWers who have been complaining have been injecting race into it. No doubt about it.
Redstate said he won because there is an affirmative action quota.
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:56 PM
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10. I heard that many times during the election.
It was sad when I saw Duers saying he won the Peace Prize because of his race. As though this man can only win anything because of his race alone.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:53 PM
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7. Either that or Greenwald is a hypocritical ass.
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 10:53 PM by ProSense
He had nothing but contempt for those criticizing Move On for its betray us ad. In fact, Democrats were called cowards for not standing up for Move On.

Flip to Greenwald's anti-Obama obssession and he goes after the DNC for its ad criticizing Republicans:

UPDATE: Remember how, during the Bush years, the GOP would disgustingly try to equate liberals with Terrorists by pointing out that they happened to have the same view on a particular matter (The Left opposes the war in Iraq, just like Al Qaeda and Hezbollah do! or bin Laden's criticisms of Bush sound just like Michael Moore's! ). It looks like the Democratic Party has learned and adopted that tactic perfectly ("'The Republican Party has thrown in its lot with the terrorists - the Taliban and Hamas this morning - in criticizing the President for receiving the Nobel Peace prize,' DNC communications director Brad Woodhouse told POLITICO"; Republicans are "put(ting) politics above patriotism," he added).

Apparently, according to the DNC, if you criticize this Prize, then you're an unpatriotic America-hater -- just like the Terrorists, because they're also criticizing the award. Karl Rove should be proud. Maybe the DNC should also send out Joe Lieberman's 2005 warning that "in matters of war we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation’s peril." Hamas also thinks that Israeli settlements should be frozen -- a position Obama shares. So, by the DNC's Rovian reasoning, doesn't this mean that Obama "has thrown in his lot with the terrorists"?


I know Naomi Klein can be an ass.

He and the rest will just have to get over it: President Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize.

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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:55 PM
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9. Will Obama's Nobel Peace Prize bring back the dead troops in Afghanistan
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 10:56 PM by brentspeak
who will have fallen in the coming months/years/who-knows-how-long and for who knows what reason?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:01 PM
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13. Did Teddy Roosevelt's Peace Prize bring back the dead Panamanians?
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seminal Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 01:44 PM
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21. Your post actually proved that Greenwald is NOT a hypocrite
He criticizes everyone, Republican or Democrat who says the other sides with terrorists.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 06:25 PM
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29. I thought the DNC crossed the line on that too
We should be as tough as the GOP when we respond. We shouldn't be as stupid as them though.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:00 PM
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12. You should be proud of the President. Not wondering if he deserved it.
So yes, these people are just as bad as the Taliban.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:07 PM
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14. I don't think there is anything wrong with discussing it.
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 11:09 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
I just wish that people would keep a couple of things in mind:

First, criteria for the NPP is not just "Be Peaceful in all things". It is given for a specific reason and in the past has been given to people who would be the first to say they aren't pacifists but have advanced the cause of peace in one way or another.

and

Second, Obama did not nominate or vote for himself. He had absolutely no control over this beyond accepting it or rejecting it (which would have been very very very bad).
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 12:34 AM
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15. Naomi Klein is as bad as the Taliban? Have you lost your f%$#$%g mind?
Edited on Sat Oct-10-09 12:35 AM by masuki bance
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 12:57 AM
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18. She's in their corner.
I bet that must feel good to be in the corner of Rush Limbaugh, Michael Steele and the Taliban.

Just sayin'...
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:23 PM
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23. Oh, that's idiotic. And low.
Right-wingers criticize Obama winning the prize because they hate who he is and what he stands for.

Progressives criticize Obama winning the prize because he has escalated the war in Afghanistan.

Hardly the same corner. Just sayin'.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 06:09 PM
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28. Nope.
Same corner. :)

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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 01:32 AM
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19. I don't think that was the question, but let me go back and read the OP again to be sure. n/t
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seminal Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 01:47 PM
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22. How can a person be proud of "X" if the person thinks X is undeserving of it?
Wow.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:28 PM
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25. I can not tell if your post is sarcasm or not. Will you tell me?
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:39 PM
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27. Only a simple mind would say such a foolish thing.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 12:56 AM
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17. Nope, just stupid.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 01:08 PM
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20. No, but they do not understand the prize and the standards on which
it is given and they are unrealistic about what Obama has to do to "earn" it.

I can't imagine being "disappointed" over who gets that prize, though. They are "disappointed" that we can't get out of Iraq without making sure we do it right and that takes time, and that we are stuck in Afghanistan, while I can sympathize with wanting that over, maybe Iraq first - one thing at a time.

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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:26 PM
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24. That's a hella leap in logic you got going on there.
:thumbsdown:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 06:35 PM
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30. No
But they're spoil sports.
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