Involving Lieberman in DADT will sabotage DADT repeal

Think of Lieberman as a suicide bomber when it comes to our issues!

Senator Levin's committee has jurisdiction over DADT, not Lieberman's Homeland Security!

Gillibrand: 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Hearings Imminent

By Elizabeth Benjamin

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand told MSNBC's Rachel Maddow last night that the first congressional hearings on repeal of the controversial "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy will take place this fall - perhaps as early as this month.

Gillibrand, who adopted this issue as a personal crusade not long after she inherited former Sen. Hillary Clinton's seat and embarked on a quest to broaden her views and political appeal, insisted in spite of recent comments to the contrary that the White House is 100 percent on board with this effort.

I think the White House will support this," Gillibrand said. "I think the president supports it - he certainly has so stated over the last several months and years it's something that is time. I mean, it's a timely issue that's urgent, and it's a call to action."

"...I do believe that we will have the support in Congress that we need," the senator continued. "And I think there's more support than you think. I think there's a number of senators that are considering their views on this issue. And I think the benefit of a hearing is we will get this evidence out to be debated fully

Gillibrand has personally appealed to Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (who is the uncle of recent City Council primary winner Steve Levin and also an ally of Gillibrand's political mentor, Sen. Chuck Schumer) to hold hearings on DADT even though she doesn't sit on the committee herself.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2009/10/gillibrand-dont-ask-dont-tell.html#ixzz0Tlzu00IN

Armed Services committee and the Armed Services personnel subcommittee?

http://lieberman.senate.gov/about/committees.cfm

Lieberman's track record is one of treason and double dealings. Going to Lieberman is like the abuse spouse returning to the abuser.

Just because one hates someone over some actions, one can't deny if they have done work and stood on a clear position throughout their career. And it would seem a few on here who are part of the LGBT community who "hold Obama's feet to the fire" seem willing to accept this move and think Lieberman is good for this issue. I agree however if it comes to DOMA, he probably won't be the best chosen advocate...however DADT I haven't seen much to say he won't mind it's repealing.

and I am dumbfounded to find that people want to trust this POS.

Lieberman is not even a Democrat. He is pals with Lindsey Graham, for crissakes!

I don't like Hagel's views 100% however when he was in office as a Republican I liked where he stood in regards to the war and I still like his position to the war. And I like his position on health care as well. That being said..I wouldn't trust him on any panel dealing with abortion rights, or even the stimulus bill. You don't snub people who could probably help in getting things done, especially if they've advocated for things that are worthwhile. If Obama could use him for something good and he has shown a good position on this, I don't see a problem with it. You have to work with people you don't like sometimes to get things done---and Obama wants success on all issues he takes on. I don't see this as a problem.

I will repeat, Levin is Chair of Armed Services while Holy the Rat Joe Lieberman is Chair over Homeland Security. If some idiot in the White House is talking to Lieberman, bypassing Levin, that's a mistake! If some genius at the White House is talking to Lieberman as Chair of Homeland Security, that's a serious strategic error.

I'm an independent for that reason. I support legislation that gets change and things done. I don't care who does it or how it gets done, however if it's positive change I'm all for it. You on the other hand don't give a fuck about that and are running on a partisan schtick....you do that----it won't get you anywhere.

You are making a fool of yourself.

on Tammy Baldwin's Domestic Partnership Bill

but I didn't know he was a sponsor of Tammy Baldwin's Domestic Partnership Bill. What has he done, and I mean done, lately on LGBT issues?

Remember he was in the Oval Office when Obama signed the Exec Order for Federal Employees to get Benefits

and I hope you are right.

I know he's a hawk and a fiscal conservative, but what are his views/voting records on equal rights?

This is the man that just last week was planning hearings on Obama's "czars."

But he is more liberal on gay rights issues then some so called Dems (blue dog dems). Now go tell me I am not a real Dem even though I voted for Lamont in 2006.

On Edit: Is that wrong?

the point is to be able to pass a repeal on an existing law.....not a competition to give cookies to those who hate certain politicians consistently.

:)

While in the CT Senate he authored CT version of ENDA. As CT AG he fought for gay rights. In the Senate the one and only issue he opposed gay rights on was DOMA which over 75 of his collegues did as well.

While it is good that Gillibrand has spoken of this issue, she really has done nothing to lead on it. She said that she intended to introduce legislation on it, then when she didn't, she said it was because there were not 60 votes. The fact is that that did not keep her from writing legislation. It is true that she asked Levin to hold hearings, but if Patrick Murphy, who actually did introduce legislation succeeds in making this an issue in the House, the Senate would have had hearings anyway. Patrick Murphy, an Iraq vet, is the one who deserves credit.

He is the lead sponsor on the Senate version of Domestic Partners Bill and he's a co-sponsor of the ENDA bill. I know he can be a major pain in the ass, but I think you're being a little irrational.