I don't believe LBJ had anything to do with JFK's death...

Yeah, I said it.

odd time to do that funky dance.

Which isn't to say that he isn't any good, mind you.

On the JFK assassination, I'm agnostic.

It coulda been this, it coulda been that. I don't have any conclusive evidence at hand to support any given theory.

I do hear whispering to the effect that Oswald was not the lone gunman, but I don't know exactly what else the whispers are saying, and no specific names are referenced.

Pay no attention to that snarky photoshop job above.

Here's what really happened:

:thumbsup:

And the Dakota. Dude gets around.

Coincidentally, the Bushies have lotsa tangential ties to various assasinations. Just sayin'.

(but how does Kevin Bacon tie into it?)

Poor benighted soul!

You can take the time to read Gibbon's Decline and Fall and the Durants' Story of Civilization, or you can get everything you need to know in just a couple hours, by watching Oliver Stone's masterwork of history and philosophy, JFK.

Even though all of the records show that it was Jerry Falwell that sued Larry Flint for defamation (and rightfully lost), Oliver Stone done figgered out that it was really a criminal prosecution for pornography.

JFK was the man on the Grassy Knoll ... Lister convinced him to do it ...

Jackie Kennedy shat him....there I said it...:evilgrin:

And then, at the end, Lister and Kryton and Rimmer were the "bums".

with JFK's death, at least on a premeditated basis.

Sure, others screwed up and in a sense exacerbated the killing, but they didn't do so with malice aforethought.

There - I said it.

Why would you appoint 2 people who were so entirely against Kennedy, one of whom had a grudge
against him to investigate his murder? and the new head of the CIA?
There are so many questions completely unanswered. I personally believe that it was an inside
job. I have no new proof to offer, but I wonder why he would appoint the man who hated Kennedy
for the Bay of Pigs the man responsible for that operation, the man Kennedy asked to resign....
why would you appoint him to the commission investigating the mans death?
So, we have the former and current heads of the CIA appointed to the Warren Commission.
Then you factor in that the other guy aside from Dulles who Kennedy forced to resign from the CIA
was Charles Cabell, and that ironically his brother was the Mayor of Dallas at that time.
This is circumstantial entirely, but you have motive, and opportunity. Add a white supremacist who
hated Kennedy's civil rights actions, and a person with not a lot of intellectual curiosity in Gerry Ford
and you begin to wonder if just maybe someone had something to hide. At least I do

He was also hot after Jackie.

Bobby, Ted and the rest were pretty stupid, eh.

He may not have "figured it out" but he certainly had his suspicions and pursued them.

Read Ted Kennedy's memoir yet?

And you will notice what happened to Bobby, anyway.

He told some close friends that the time to reveal what he had learned would be when the Kennedy's were in power again.

He definitely believed it was the CIA and Cubans:

http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2007/05/02/brothers/

You think Ted lied in "True Compass"?

Why?

I've read tons of JFK books, from The Making of,,,1960 to biographies and then the assassinations.
I don't recall reading about "lots of private investigations'.

Doesn't make them look any better really.

Even in his posthumously published memoir, Ted Kennedy states his belief that Oswald acted alone.

Cowering in his grave.

But them's your basic choices - The Kennedys, idiots or cowards?

When he was busted under the "Trading with the Enemy" act, for funding Hitler. The Dulles brothers were definitely on the Bush Crime Family team from day one.

"Harriman was a close friend of Hall Roosevelt (brother of Eleanor Roosevelt)."

"Using money from his father, in 1922 he established W.A. Harriman & Co, a banking business. In 1927, his brother Roland joined the business and the name was changed to Harriman Brothers & Company. In 1931, they merged with Brown Bros. & Co. to create the highly successful Brown Brothers Harriman & Co.. Notable employees included George Herbert Walker and his son-in-law Prescott Bush."

"While Averell Harriman served as Senior Partner of Brown Brothers Harriman & Co., Harriman Bank was the main Wall Street connection for German companies and the varied U.S. financial interests of Fritz Thyssen,..."


Notable positions held:

"# US Ambassador & Special Representative to the Prime Minister of Britain, 1941-43
# Chairman, Ambassador & Special Representative of the US President's Special Mission to the USSR, 1941-43
# US Ambassador to the USSR, 1943-46
# US Ambassador, Britain, 1946
# US Secretary of Commerce, 1946-48
# United States Coordinator, European Recovery Program (Marshall Plan), 1948-50
# Special Assistant to the U.S. President, 1950-52
# US Representative and Chairman, North Atlantic Commission on Defense Plans, 1951-52
# Director, Mutual Security Agency, 1951-53
# Candidate, Democratic nomination for US President, 1952
# Governor, State of New York, 1955-58
# Candidate, Democratic nomination for US President, 1956
# US Ambassador-at-large, 1961
# United States Deputy Representative, International Conference on the Settlement of the Laotian, 1961-62
# Assistant US Secretary of State, Far Eastern Affairs, 1961-63
# Special Representative to the US President, Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, 1963
# Under US Secretary of State, Political Affairs, 1963-65
# US Ambassador-at-large, 1965-69"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Averell_Harriman

http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/letter.html

As a Kennedy appointee, maybe he would have been a good choice, but I think he was busy at the time. You are probably confusing him with John J McCloy.

I remember watching Ruby shoot Oswald. What an awful moment that was. I wish we could know for the sake of the Oswald and Kennedy kids.

One would think that if there was anyone else directly involved, decades of investigation would have turned up proof that was the case.

I do think he took it as a warning though.

And while it's always questionable when people relay information to you...the way LBJ acted was not someone who was in on this.

I say that because he was convinced WWIII was about to break out. Terrified of it, actually. That was one of his biggest fears heading back to Washington.

Secondly, they said when Kennedy had been shot, he was totally confused and left out of the loop for 45 minutes. No one told him anything until they got to the hospital.

Thirdly, if Johnson knew, then Lady Bird had to have had some idea and I refuse to believe that.

There. I said it.

He's wearing a suit and tie. With a short haircut. In the early 60s.

It's like a frickin' signature.

The most important part of any assassination conspiracy is to stand around the scene after the act is completed, to get your picture taken.

contemplating the fact that they have a lot in common with the birthers, not to mention Balloon Boy's family.

That young Marine said he didn't shoot anybody, he's just a patsy.

I believe it.

I don't know who did it, but I don't think it was Oswald.

:hi:

Respected Surgeon Dr. Crenshaw did. "Conspiracy of Silence" now "Trauma Room One"

http://www.paraview.com/crenshaw/crenshaw_excerpt.htm

I have also attended a presentation from a Professor from Grand Valley State that teaches a class on assassinations. He gave a presentation of what he learned about the Kennedy Assassination and came to the conclusion there was a conspiracy and his presentation proved that it was.

If you look at all the facts pertaining to this case you can only come to one conclusion. However, there are those that no matter how much information you show them ...they won't accept the fact.

Not unlike the downing of the twin towers... anyone who looks into it can see that a conspiracy was in place. Will the ones responsible ever face charges for doing it... of course not..... Oswald was a patsy... set up to take the fall... case closed.

Anyway... good luck in your search.

Peace

No way should Jack Ruby have been able to get that close to Oswald.

exists (I've seen it).

Whether the Dallas PD had one I do not know. The footage taken by Zapruder of Kennedy being shot was 8mm home movie silent film. With no sound its usefulness for police interrogations is questionable. I suspect the Secret Service shipped the limo back to Washington D.C. but I do not know what they did with it.

http://www.jfklancer.com/Limousine.html

1961 Lincoln Continental Four-door convertible limousine, VIN # 1Y86H405950 JFK was riding in when he was assassinated. Quite possibly the most famous and controversial automobile in modern history. The car was custom built by Hess & Eisenhardt and was known as the X-100.

At the time of the assassination, the car was painted dark blue and had a 1962 grille. It was later returned to H and E for extensive modifications, including armor plating, and the custom fitted front bumper cone lights were removed and replaced with simple chrome bumper plugs, and the limo was repainted black at the request of President Johnson. The limousine is now at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan

He was 2. He could have snuck in from Kenya, and done the deed.

Here he is, planning the crime.

assassination...except a few wingnuts...but they don't count...;)

Well, she DID have motive: