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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 07:59 AM
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NYT article on climate control bill - as many as 67 Senators in play
This is incredibly significant as it means that there is a real possibility of ratifying whatever comes out of Copenhagen. Ratifying a treaty needs 67 votes. Passing the legislation is more important, but that passing the treaty is becoming "thinkable" is amazing. (Even Kerry had admitted that it might be impossible to get 67 immediately.)



Here's the good news for climate advocates: E&E now finds that at least 67 senators are in play on the issue, enough not only to pass the climate bill but also to ratify an international treaty should sponsors actually run the boards and not lose a single member.

For starters, the bill's lead sponsors, Sens. John Kerry (D-Mass.) and Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), can safely rely on 31 "yes" votes as they work on building their coalition. That list includes Ben Cardin of Maryland, Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire and Tom Udall of New Mexico. All appeared at a Capitol Hill campaign-style rally last month during the public unveiling of the legislation, S. 1733 (pdf).

Another 12 senators fall into the "probably yes" camp, from Michael Bennet of Colorado to Al Franken of Minnesota and Mark Warner of Virginia. Bennet and Warner are not slam dunks given the fossil fuel interests in their home states, while Franken dropped off the "yes" list when he signed a letter with nine other Democrats in August that raised concerns about President Obama's stance against trade sanctions on carbon-intensive goods from developing countries that do not have strong enough climate policies (E&ENews PM, Aug. 6).

As for the fence sitters, the list continues to swell from both directions as key senators hedge their bets.


The article starts from a less positive perspective, but considering that a month ago, there was talk that Reid would not put it on the calendar and that it simply would not happen this year, this is amazing progress.

http://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2009/10/20/20climatewire-on-road-to-60-votes-for-climate-bill-senate-43836.html
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 08:46 AM
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1. This is incredible. I never would have guessed this a couple of months ago.
Thanks for posting, Karynnj.

And good on John Kerry and Barbara Boxer for working so hard for this. We still have a long way to go, but there is at least hope.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:08 AM
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2. This is an amazing turn-around
And a very hopeful sign that some good will come out of this bill and the negotiations in December in copenhagen.

Excellent news!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:29 AM
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3. It really is
It will be interesting to see this go forward.

One observation - Only Senators who really accept that global warming is a problem would even be on the fence. That means at least 67 Senators accept the science. It would seem that assuming the legislation passes and the international agreement includes the third world, even those who did not support the legislation would support the treaty. Especially as the legislation itself would be doing America's part.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:34 AM
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4. What a day for Sen. Kerry
There to persuade Afghan Pres. Karzai to accept a runoff election, the NYTimes says there may indeed be enough Senators to begin a serious discussion on climate change legislation. Wow! Nice work Senator.

I am getting greedy. I just started thinking about that public option again. LOL! Of course, Sen. Kerry is not as prime on this as he was on this other measures, but, he is having one heck of a week.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:55 AM
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5. He really is having a fantastic week, but both are based on years
of work to be able to do those things. He really deserves to be able to say as he did:

""I feel very calm and confident about who I am politically and personally. I feel very comfortable with the fights I am fighting and where I am," said Kerry." (http://www.reuters.com/article/featuredCrisis/idUSN16212150 )






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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:30 PM
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6. pending extinction of our current way of life can move even dorks
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