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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 09:47 PM
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Holy Crap, Iran May Take The Nuke Deal
I hope this is still current-sounds good to me, but I've been out of the loop.


http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/holy-crap-iran-may-take-the-nuke-deal/

Holy Crap, Iran May Take The Nuke Deal
By: Spencer Ackerman Wednesday October 21, 2009 12:30 pm


It sure is looking like that in Vienna! The Iranian negotiating team is open to the deal, but they have to take it back to the regime for approval. Cautious optimism!

What’s at stake? Well:

Diplomacy is underway to find out whether Iran will ultimately accede to an offer that the U.S. and its allies thought it accepted earlier this month: a proposal to reprocess 75 percent of its uranium stock outside Iran to a form suitable only for producing the civilian energy that Iran says it wants, and not a nuclear weapon. “If Iran ships the uranium out of the country, we’ve lengthened the fuse,” said Joseph Cirincione, the president of the Ploughshares Fund, a nonproliferation organization in Washington.


This would represent the first time that anyone has succeeded in putting time back on the Iranian nuclear clock. It would be a major diplomatic victory for Obama, and for the Forces Of Good in general. A nuclear Iran is in no one’s interest.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 09:49 PM
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1. Whoa! who knew diplomacy could work?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 09:54 PM
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2. Heard this on the news during the night.
I sleep with my radio on all night...:shrug:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 10:01 PM
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3. I'm all for ..One for the
Forces of Good!
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discopants Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 10:07 PM
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4. Alert the media!
Liz Cheney and John Bolton will be first to grab the spotlight to declare this is appeasement and it makes America less safe!


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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 10:10 PM
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5. I'll bet NuttyYahoo doesn't like this idea
That crazy son of a bitch will get his war with Iran one way or another.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:00 PM
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12. I consider his ire a bonus. How can Netanyahu consider this
a bad thing, at least publicly?
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 10:20 PM
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6. Don't you mean "a nuclear-ARMED Iran is in no one's interest?", Babylonsister?
Seems like they should be able to use the "peaceful" atom like every other modern nation--to me, anyway.

No, I'm not a big nuclear power fan, but that power source could be a boon to their nation.

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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 10:37 PM
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7. This would go a long way to putting some meat behind that Nobel. n/t
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 10:41 PM
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8. :D
That makes me laugh - thinking about Democrats looking at Republicans every time Obama pulls something like this off and saying, "Hey, does he deserve it now?"

"Does he deserve it now?"

"Does he deserve it now?"

"Does he deserve it now?"
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 10:47 PM
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10. Nah, this is for next year. (nt)
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 10:42 PM
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9. Funny what happens when the U.S. tries di...plo...ma...cy...
as opposed to sending John Bolton to bluster and make threats...
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 10:50 PM
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11. And I can STILL recall a PUMA friend of mine....
Edited on Wed Oct-21-09 10:50 PM by Clio the Leo
.... swearing last year that Iran would never negotiate.

And people wonder why we so passionately defend the man. ;)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:05 PM
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13. I saw the report tonight on Jim Lehrer's Newshour...
Everyone looks happy and in agreement.

Amazing!

Russia will take the uranium for reprocessing, or so the report stated.


K&R



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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:09 PM
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14. Perhaps.
Edited on Thu Oct-22-09 10:09 PM by Igel
People a few weeks ago were already calling this a done deal, only to find that a draft needed to be drawn up and that approved.

I'm thinking they'll accept it. It'll mean that all their U enrichment activities, hitherto condemned by and contrary to the UN Security Council and its resolutions, will be effectively approved of and forgiven.

Notice that only 75% will be shipped out. This is weaker than the proposal from a year or two ago to have it all shipped out for reprocessing, or for nuclear fuel and medical isotopes to simply be provided (presumably purchased).

Whether it sets the clock back depends upon one additional bit of information: Knowledge that the known Iranian uranium stockpiles constitute the entirety of the Iranian uranium stockpiles.

Whether any clock-resetting actually will have occurred depends upon the Iranian's timeline: If they plan no nuclear weapons, or planned on achieving sufficient enriched uranium only in 2013, then it's thoroughly irrelevant and any celebration is inappropriate. But that's the kind of thing that can only be known in hindsight (and the possibility of which should instill a modicum of humbleness).
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