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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:39 AM
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Teabaggers want to ban contraceptives!
A Teabagger said they would like ban contraceptives yesterday it was brought up on kmel an urban radio station located in San Francisco. Isn't that insane?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:41 AM
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1. Of course it is...EVERYTHING they say is insane...
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:43 AM
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5. What the hell is wrong with these people?
They must envy the taliban.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:48 AM
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10. Evil people telling lies to stupid people..the results..insanity
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:50 PM
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29. Best definition of authoritarianism I've heard yet
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:03 PM
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20. In their eyes the Taleban are evil whereas they are just.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:01 PM
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18. Insane, inept, unintelligent, or simply gullible.
Pick any one or a combo.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:41 AM
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2. Aw, give em a break. They're just too embarassed to admit
that they can't figure out how to use them.
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OswegoAtheist Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:48 AM
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11. Lack of practice n/t
Oswego "n/t" Atheist
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:42 AM
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3. You're surprised?
The pro-forced-birth forces have stated, often openly, for decades that repealing Griswold and prohibiting contraception were their ultimate goals.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:57 AM
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15. Griswold lead to Roe
and they know it
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:18 PM
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35. People have laughed at us for decades as we warned that
birth control was at risk. We have all been told that birth control is safe and secure, and no way will our party ever let the anti-choicers block birth control. So we must be nuts if we really take the threat seriously. We're over-reacting. :eyes:

Just like we have over-reacted when we said that our party should not be letting in anti-choice candidates and accepting anti-choice compromises over and over and over again.

We have been right all along. When will people realize this and become militant enough to stand united with us against the anti-choicers, without exception, excuse or compromise? :grr:
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:36 PM
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38. Also when we warned that......
the "anit-abortion" movement is really about controlling people's sex lives (women esp).

If the anti-choice people really wanted to stop abortions they would be standing on corners handing out condoms, and promoting comprehensive sex education, and presureing for more birth-control options.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 04:29 PM
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43. I cannot count how many times I have been told some variant of your comments, to "chill, stop
worrying, etc" just like "mein kampf" laid out exactly what hitler intended to do, there have been writings, speeches, and every blueprint laid out for how these people want to punish women for being women. (you notice in all their screeds, there is almost never anything about the man who is doing the impregnating)

it gives me no pleasure to say "I told you so"
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 04:37 PM
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46. Yep- very few would listen though
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 08:12 AM
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61. Griswold is not subject to 'repeal!'
Its a Supreme Court Decision.

Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479 (1965),<1> was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the Constitution protected a right to privacy. The case involved a Connecticut law that prohibited the use of contraceptives. By a vote of 7-2, the Supreme Court invalidated the law on the grounds that it violated the "right to marital privacy".

Although the Bill of Rights does not explicitly mention "privacy," Justice William O. Douglas wrote for the majority that the right was to be found in the "penumbras" and "emanations" of other constitutional protections. Justice Arthur Goldberg wrote a concurring opinion in which he used the Ninth Amendment to defend the Supreme Court's ruling. Justice John Marshall Harlan II wrote a concurring opinion in which he argued that privacy is protected by the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Justice Byron White also wrote a concurrence based on the due process clause.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 08:23 AM
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63. The reason the US Const does not mention the work "privacy" is because....
...to the Founding Fathers, what that would have referred to was matters of "privy" which is a polite term used back then for the toilet and tasks connected thereto. However, the 4th Amend is clearly an issue of one's right to privacy.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:42 AM
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4. It makes complete sense.
If you outlaw contraceptives, only outlaws will have contraceptives. Soon outlaws will no longer be born, leaving only us law abiding people to reproduce. The logic is clear.:shrug:
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:11 PM
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22. We have to educate the next generation.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:44 AM
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6. Was This Person A Man?
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:45 AM
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8. Yes, but you know Teabagger women agree. Sarah Palin.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:44 AM
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7. more than insane but it sounds exactly like what the teabaggers would want.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:47 AM
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9. Of course, contraceptives prevent pregnancy and promote sex
We wouldn't want anyone to have sex for anything other than procreation.


:sarcasm:
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:50 AM
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12. Mission creep? Way to dilute that tea, you, nutbaggers.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:54 AM
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13. These people must think STD's do not exist.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:57 AM
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16. there is no logic to their mental processes. and besides, std's are their god's punishment
for having sex.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:56 AM
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14. yes, it is insane--but nothing new. this has been one of the goals of the woman-hating, pro-forced
birthers for decades now. after all, women are only brood mares.

to give you some idea of just how insane they are--years ago, an artist in SF had an exhibit using decorated condoms. the exhibit was picketed and she was called a murderer--for using condoms as art!!
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:59 AM
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17. Like I said they must envy the taliban.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:02 PM
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19. Say it with me. B A T S H I T.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:04 PM
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21. Religion is holding this nation back.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:13 PM
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23. If it wasn't religion then it would be something else.

Some people pride themselves on being part of the ignorantti.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:22 PM
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24. They want to increase their ranks by unbridled breeding
Honestly, they want to birth as many teabagging offspring as possible, to carry on the mission
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:25 PM
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25. Teabaggers should be forced to use contraceptives.
Spay and neuter.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:37 PM
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26. Makes sense to me from a Marketing standpoint...
They've got all the scumbags...:evilgrin:
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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:56 PM
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27. "Every sperm is sacred,
every sperm is great, for every sperm that you waste, god gets quite irate."
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 12:57 PM
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28. Too bad, then more of them will be allowed to be born.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 01:50 PM
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30. Do you need contraceptives while teabagging?
.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:06 PM
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31.  Makes you wonder on the who, what and where of their agenda. Still some things hidden.
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 03:06 PM by gordianot
I wonder how much continuity there is among this group.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:08 PM
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32. Um, they are Republicans
Is this a surprise? Women have been battling with these dipshits for decades over reproductive rights...
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:13 PM
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33. No contraceptives, no abortion rights = no sex in my book.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:17 PM
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34. These people are scary if they ever got into power we would
revert back to the medieval days.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 04:34 PM
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44. "days of the theocracy"
Days of the Theocracy
(Kristin Lems)
July 15, 2007
words and music by Kristin Lems c 2007 Kleine Ding Music (BMI)
Out of print for many years, I felt this was important enough that I allowed a free legal download of it from the freedom from religion site. Written in 1979....
1. First they fight abortion, birth control is next,
Then comes sex if you’re not married, finally, out goes sex
Put the prayers back in the schools, install parochiaid
Allow for corporal punishment, and then you got it made!

Chorus:

We’re going back, back to the good ole days
When men were really men and women knew their place
Back, back a couple of centuries
And welcome back the days of the theocracy

2. The family is so holy, there must be no divorce
And if a wife is not content, she must adjust, of course
And if he’s forced to beat her, it’s all for her own good
She must know what her limits are, as any woman should

3. The next to go is daycare, it’s all a commit plot
What could be more fulfilling than a child, wanted or not?
A woman’s work is housework, God wanted it that way
A salaried job degrades her since she never works for pay

Chorus

4. They teach us women’s lot is "love honor and obey"
And while their crusty notions seem like jokes to us today
They’re sitting in the Capitol, they’re voting on our lives
If we don’t stop them now, our freedom will not long survive

No going back..to the bad ole days...let's go ahead for future centuries,

And build a world that’s based on true democracy
And build a world that’s based on true equality
Ah – person!



http://www.kristinlems.com/music-160.html
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 04:36 PM
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45. if you haven't read "the handmaid's tale" by margaret atwood, do so at once.
the movie is okay, but leaves out so much. THIS is the world these people want--women as nothing but breeding vessels. the whole reagan/bush era, most of us realized we were but one vote away from that world.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:23 PM
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36. How do these morans propose to enforce such a thing?
:rofl:

And why do they stupidly assume that the more people there are, the more right wing douchebags there will be? :rofl:

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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:28 PM
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37. Time for any church that these religious nuts belong to...
to lose their tax exemption status.
It's the law that a Church cannot be political.
Time to inforce that law!
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:40 PM
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40. You know their preachers are preaching this nonsense.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:44 PM
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41. yup...
and paying for the buses too.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:40 PM
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39. They scare me and they're scary people. I never thought I'd want a group of humans off the Earth...
But...teabaggers are not human so I think I'm good.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 03:46 PM
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42. These people are frightening. The are a nightmare for people who
want to reside in the 21st century.
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 04:37 PM
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47. Teabaggers = Taliban
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 04:38 PM by vinylsolution
... or is this now the Teabagiban?

Probably too many syllables for them. :rofl:





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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 04:38 PM
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48. Just what we need - teabaggers over-populating the earth! nt
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 04:59 PM
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49. These people survive by thinking as one; which means not
thinking at all.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 05:13 PM
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50. Proof that they hate women.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 05:18 PM
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51. How could and self-respectful woman support these clowns?
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 05:20 PM
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52. WE COULD LEARN FROM THIS - THIS IS HOW YOU NEGOTIATE.
Think about it and the health care reform:

Come out wanting to nationalize health care, all of it, make Doctors and nurses employees, nationalize hospitals, etc. AND THE OIL AND BANK INDUSTRIES, increase taxes 50% for people making over $1,000,000 a year and cut the military 60%...

Then we "negotiate down" to single payer.

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:22 PM
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53. They are a teeny tiny minority making a lot of noise. They know they are becoming extinct
They want white people forced to reproduce, thinking that is how they become the majority again.

They are fucking delusional. But, we ignore their agenda at our own peril.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:31 PM
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54. Yes. It is insane. They're absurd overly religious views are not separation of church & state
they need to be reminded why we do that.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:33 PM
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55. They won't listen.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:00 PM
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56. I want to ban tea-baggers :P
They are hate mongers....and I hate that :)
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:55 PM
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57. Teabaggers believe in the part the bible where women have no
rights.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:11 PM
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58. Excellent news. They will bring the Republican Party down with them. n/t
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:34 AM
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59. Not news to me
heard of the "Quiverfull" movement?

They are attempting to shove the genie back in the bottle in the belief that a true risk of pregnancy every time will promote "virtue". Of course, what they fail to understand is that sex was not invented in the 1960s. Plenty of evidence exists to support the notion that a great number of people were regularly having out-of-wedlock sex for many centuries before contraception was invented. Surprise, surprise, people apparently enjoy sexual contact, go figure.

Because of this enjoyment, the politics will never support their position.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:37 AM
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60. Just tell 'em illegal aliens will keep right on having more babies!
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 08:17 AM
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62. We know the catholic church has been trying to
get rid contraceptives for decades.
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