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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:39 AM
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*** House Debate on Health Care Bill *** thread 2

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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:41 AM
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1. They are bringing out their props. nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:42 AM
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ooo Do we get charts & graphs?. .n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:42 AM
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2. The requests for unanimous consent are done!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:42 AM
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5. Hopefully they've run out of steam
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:03 PM
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54. Have you ever heard of a Republican running out of steam????
Mark my words this will get much nastier the closer it comes to a vote....
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aSpeckofDust Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:42 AM
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3. what a douche. The rep holding the bill and saying the dems should read it.. I bet he didn't even ..
.. read page 1.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:45 AM
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9. While picking it up, he said he hopes he doesn't get a hernia from lifting the bill!
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 11:46 AM by jenmito
As if he was forced to picked it up. :rofl:
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aSpeckofDust Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:46 AM
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11. Sounds like a pre-existing condition ! n/t
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:08 PM
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93. HA!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:06 PM
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25. Then he slams it on the table like a 2 year old?
Yeah, that a guy I would want rep'ing me in Congress ~~ not!
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:34 PM
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69. Bohner held up the constitution the other day saying he was going to read from it
Then quoted the declaration of indipendabce instead. So them reading it is no guarentee any of it sunk in. In fact it probably indicates the oposite.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:42 AM
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4. Watching these Republicans is like watching professional wrestling

I can only stand about 3 minutes of either
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:43 AM
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6. I agree. Finally it is done. Now we can move on.
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 11:46 AM by Kdillard
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:43 AM
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7. I wonder how the whip is doing?. . . n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:46 AM
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12. Obama is supposed to be on the hill right now
I think they said he'd be there at about 11:30. So hopefully he's doing some whip work right now.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:43 AM
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8. Thanks Anna!
History is what we will be discussing here today.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:45 AM
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10. Yes this is history.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:48 AM
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13. Louise Slaughter is making a good opening statement. . n/t
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:49 AM
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14. Yes she is with thoughtfulness and strength.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:49 AM
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15. awesome, a stop government run healthcare banner over DU
:(
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:50 AM
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16. (buy a star..It'll go away)
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:53 AM
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17. He's charging the repugs time for each one...It's all in the language. .n/t
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:54 AM
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18. Did he just say "job keeping"?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:56 AM
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19. Yes.
He had the script but he screwed it up.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:57 AM
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20. tsk. .not ready for primetime. . n/t
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:58 AM
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21. Freudian slip?nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:04 PM
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22. The repugs keep calling it "job killing". .they must think they've
finally found a "winning frame". .kind of late in the game, isn't it?
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:05 PM
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23. Yep. Too bad so sad.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:09 PM
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27. R's are cynically exploiting Americans' concern for economy. Health is one sector that's growing!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:06 PM
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24. Ms Matsui (D-Ca) on the floor.
I like her.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:09 PM
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26. BREAKING: Stupak amendment has the votes to pass.
BREAKING: Stupak amendment has the votes to pass. Cantor, Pence, Boehner have confirmed they will vote 'aye'

http://twitter.com/wonkroom
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:10 PM
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28. crap. . n/t
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:12 PM
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29. Totally expected. Whatever happened to the separation of church and state!
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 12:20 PM by flpoljunkie
The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops have given their blessing to the House bill--but only if Stupak's amendment passes!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:16 PM
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33. I suspect (read: hope) the anti-choice Amendment will be stripped once the bills gets to conference.
That's what Schakowsky seemed to indicate earlier today at least.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:20 PM
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35. Hope springs eternal!
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:15 PM
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59. Hope you're right.
The anti-choice amendment's an abomination, but hopefully it'll die, if not today, then maybe in conference committee.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:13 PM
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So they have enough Dems. to get the 218 to pass it?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:13 PM
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31. Why do they want to amend a bill that is Freedom-Killing, Job-Destroying?
Logically it doesn't make sense.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:16 PM
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32. They want to make the final bill as good for them as they can. They're still going to vote against
it.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:18 PM
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34. Yeah I know, Makes them hypocritical jerks in my book.
But I guess I had already figured that out.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:12 PM
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30. There is very little question who's on the side of the Angels here.
Every speaker reinforces that fact.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:24 PM
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36. Finally Mary Jo Kilroy taking on the Job Killing meme.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:26 PM
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37. quick peek on CNN. Obama has just finished meeting with House Dems
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 12:26 PM by annabanana
Clyburn says "we are on the cusp of making an historic decision on the behalf of the American people"

Pelosi says: "It will be maifested today" "we will passs health care reform"
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:27 PM
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38. Man wielding the gavel sounds like W.C. Fields
It's almost comical. Anyone know who that is?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:29 PM
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39. Well he certainly commands attention!. . n/t
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:00 PM
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53. The distinguished John Dingell (D) MI, Dean of the House.
First elected in 1955, fighting for health care reform for decades
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:30 PM
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40. Now they are lying about the stimulus.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:05 PM
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55. The LIE about everything.....after all they need to keep
Those teaGagers happy
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:30 PM
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41. dems reserve balance of time...think I'll hit the mute button for a while! nt
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:33 PM
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42. Yep I have the liars on mute too until the Dems come back.
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aSpeckofDust Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:34 PM
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43. "2,000 page, 4,000 word document." ..So.. it has two words per page? Nice job repub.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:36 PM
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44. The repugs sure are flailing around there arne't they? Just
throwing everything against the wall.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:37 PM
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45. just gotta say....the repubs are sooo full of shit! nt
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:40 PM
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46. Dingell is using the same gavel that he used in 1965 for the Medicare debate
@CQHealthTweet:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:42 PM
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47. The presser with Pelosi after Pres Obama's meeting with Dems looks good.
She intimated that today the bill will pass.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:48 PM
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51. Very good vibes...they were sending off.
I like.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:43 PM
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48. has Grayson spoken yet, or do we know if he will?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:46 PM
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49. I hope so. I sure like to watch him speak. .n/t
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:48 PM
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50. DeFazio is good!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:51 PM
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52. Here comes Stupak.. (Theocrat, Michigan). . n/t
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:09 PM
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56. House Dems spontaneously chanted "fired up, ready to go" as POTUS left caucus meeting
RT @ThePlumLineGS: House Dems spontaneously chanted "fired up, ready to go" as POTUS left caucus meeting, Bill Burton sez
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:12 PM
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58. Luke Russert said he heard from many in the meeting that it was Obama's best speech yet. If only we
could've heard that one. Apparently it wasn't about policy at all, but rather focused on party unity and forging ahead as a cohesive group toward success.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:10 PM
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57. What are they voting on now -- ordering the previous question? I don't understand
So if anyone can explain it to me -- slowly -- I would appreciate it. :)
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:18 PM
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60. Yes
1:01 P.M. - On ordering the previous question Roll Call 881 - Recorded vote pending.

http://twitter.com/HouseFloor
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:19 PM
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61. So why aren't more dems voting yea?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:25 PM
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63. blue dogs
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 01:25 PM by annabanana
They have their 218, so no problem on this procedural vote.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:26 PM
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66. Cool - was getting nervous :)
I'm on edge today with something so important up for vote later in the day
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:25 PM
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65. I see 246 to 10 dems on this one. And of course all Repubs saying NAY!
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:28 PM
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67. I need to be more patient!
Did you see the 1 repug vote for yea that kept appearing and disappearing? I wonder if one of the other repug congressmen was taking the voting device from him and pressed nay? :)
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:25 PM
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64. Link here:
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 01:30 PM by Graybeard

http://www.parlipro.org/prevquestion.htm


....
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ind_thinker2 Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:24 PM
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62. 10 dem nays on procedural motion to start debate 3 no votes
who are these crazy dems?
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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:32 PM
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68. WHAT would happen if??....
Things go far better than expected and the bill passes with even more votes than expected. Say just 20 dems vote against it instead of 30-35 and it's not even close in the end. 238-197 say. Would that matter if it's easy passage? President Obama could possibly have unified the caucus to get there earlier this morning. Who knows..
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:41 PM
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70. So many confused people.. They have been lied to so often that
they have NO IDEA what's true & what's false.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:42 PM
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71. I know listening to CSPAN can be sad.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:43 PM
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73. I turned on CSPAN for about five mins and couldn't handle it anymore. The false information
that many callers were spewing was just mind blowing. These people truly are brainwashed by their AM radio overlords.
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:44 PM
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76. *runs around in panic*
a yes to the bill is a yes to dismantling the constitution as we know it AAAAAAHHHH

*shakes his head* how i would have loved the ability to understand how some people tick
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:42 PM
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72. House Vote on "Proceeding to Debate" not close. Dems - 242 yes, 15 no (so far).
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 01:43 PM by jefferson_dem
Excellent news for REFORM!
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:44 PM
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75. So here comes four hours of debate. There should be some batshit on steroids on display
very soon from the party of NO.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:43 PM
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74. These RW callers on C-Span are saying they're against this bill because nobody READ it...
and it takes away their freedoms. Someone just said, "A 'yes' to this is a 'yes' to end the Constitution as we know it." If they haven't read the bill, how do they know? They keep spouting Glenn Beck talking points.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:46 PM
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78. I was laughing at one of those callers. Wish someone would ask him when he read it to know how
absolutely terrible, horrible, no good, and disastrous this bill is. HAHAHA. Just pure regurgitation of putrid bile.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:49 PM
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80. I can't wait to hear the Repubs. whine after it's passed!
It'll be a beautiful thing.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:51 PM
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83. While they whine, I'll wine. ;)
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:47 PM
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79. I just started laughing when I heard that. Anyone can read the bill and as pointed out the bill is
on CSPAN's website. Then again it fits in with the lazy attitude for information that Republicans seem to like to cultivate.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:50 PM
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82. They don't WANT to read the bill. They just want to see Obama fail.
They keep repeating the RW talking points. They have no idea what they're talking about.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:45 PM
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77. Stenny giving official kudos to Dingall. . VERY nice. . n/t
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aSpeckofDust Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:49 PM
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81. Yay, a chart. That explains everything, thank you rethug. N/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:55 PM
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84. The Repubs.: "They want to ram this through! Why the rush? They need to slow down so we can work
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 01:55 PM by jenmito
on this TOGETHER and pass a bill the American people WANT." Yeah, right!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:56 PM
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86. yeah.. slow, like the b*sh tax cuts for millionaires . . n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:04 PM
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90. I don't even know why they pretend they want to work with the Dems., if ONLY they
worked slower, when the day before the same Repubs. were outside with the teabaggers talking about killing the bill.
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:08 PM
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92. It just sounds good and nobody calls them on it.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:11 PM
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95. True. That darn liberal media.
:eyes:
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:55 PM
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85. I wonder which super asshat puke was the only one to vote against marking 20th anniv. of the end
of the Cold War? Unreal. Stay classy party of NO.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:00 PM
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87. Here we go. Get your debate on. 4 hour countdown begins now.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:04 PM
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89. Anyone want to take odds on how long "4 hours" takes?. n/t
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:05 PM
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91. How exactly do they milk more time out of this with the sanctioned times for each side?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:10 PM
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94. Just because the rules of debate say that there will be four hours
of debate once the rule has been approved, don't presume that there will be exactly four hours. Repubs may try some parliamentary moves as a show of protest, and there's also the House version of a filibuster.

The top floor leaders - Pelosi, Steny, and Boner have special dispensation to speak as long as they want without cutting into the overall debate time. Last June, when the House was about to pass a climate change bill with little GOP support, Boner read long passages from the text of the bill. He went on for more than an hour.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:16 PM
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101. Thanks. So Boner may just stand there for hours, literally, and just read. Pathetic.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:03 PM
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88. Steny up first.. I don't always likethis dude... but he sounds good here. . n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:12 PM
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96. Should I open a new thread?
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:12 PM
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97. yes
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:14 PM
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98. Yes I think so.
This final phase will go on for a few hours.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:14 PM
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99. Joe Barton complained that he had to be in D.C. this
weekend. He had planned to be in Vegas.
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:18 PM
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102. Whine whine whine whine.
Brain-dead fool.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 02:15 PM
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100. NEW THREAD UP:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8738183&mesg_id=8738183
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