Hume Over On Fox saying something about Kerry meeting with

the North Vietnamese in France in the 70's. Iam sure they are trying to get something out to cover up the intelligence report that is out showing what a disaster Iraq is, virtually lost war and possible civil war before 05.

They are like a bunch of cats trying to cover up their shit and they have so much right now, don't even know where the last pile was.

US officials were there too, I believe.

the truth sounds better.

Ignore whatever lying spin they are trying to put on it, here's the actual record. He was trying to get the soldiers and POW's home:

Kerry, the Congressional Record, 1971

The Chairman: Do you support or do you have any particular views about any one of them you wish to give the committee?

Mr. Kerry: My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. But I would like to say, in answering that, that I do not believe it is necessary to stall any longer. I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned. (The same POW's who were so "devastated" by this attempt to get them freed sooner rather than later?)

I think this negates very clearly the argument of the President that we have to maintain a presence in Vietnam, to use as a negotiating block for the return of those prisoners. The setting of a date will accomplish that...

Mr. Kerry: Senator, if I may interject, I think that what we are trying to say is we do have a method. We believe we do have a plan, and that plan is that if this body were by some means either to permit a special referendum in this country so that the country itself might decide and therefore avoid this recrimination which people constantly refer to or if they couldn't do that, at least do it through immediate legislation which would state there would be an immediate cease-fire and we would be willing to undertake negotiations for a coalition government. But at the present moment that is not going to happen, so we are talking about men continuing to die for nothing and I think there is a tremendous moral question here which the Congress of the United States is ignoring.

The Chairman: The congress cannot directly under our system negotiate a cease-fire or anything of this kind. Under our constitutional system we can advice the President. We have to persuade the President of the urgency of taking this action. Now we have certain ways in which to proceed. We can, of course, express ourselves in a resolution or we can pass an act which directly affects appropriations which is the most concrete positive way the Congress can express itself.

But Congress has no capacity under our system to go out and negotiate a cease-fire. We have to persuade the Executive to do this for the country.

Mr. Kerry: Mr. Chairman, I realize that full well as a student of political science. I realize that we cannot negotiate treaties and I realize that even my visits in Paris, precedents had been set by Senator McCarthy and others, in a sense are on the borderline of private individuals negotiating, et cetera. I understand these things. But what I am saying is that I believe that there is a mood in this country which I know you are aware of and you have been one of the strongest critics of this war for the longest time. But I think if can talk in this legislative body about filibustering for porkbarrell programs, then we should start now to talk about filibustering for the saving of lives and of our country. (Applause.)

And this, Mr. Chairman, is what we are trying to convey.

FOX and the Swift liars are all doing their part; no surprise.

On behalf of th at great Republican hero Dick Nixon, who employed little Dick Cheney?

with people to get them to do what you want. You have to bomb them and invade them and kill lots of people. That's the only way to get things done. (michael savage mode off)

with the North Vietnamese, was the status and treatment of the POW's. We still had a lot of guys in there and Kerry was doing everything he could to bring them home alive.

to leave the POWs where they were.

Another reason they hate Kerry, because he wouldn't leave anyone behind.

Not like bush who ran and hide and pissed his shorts on 9/11

He knew exactly what was going down.

He was stalling. All four planes were supposed to take off by 8:01 AM. The attack was supposed to be over by 9:00 AM. When things got hung up, Bush and his crew all had to go into stall mode. Not a single one of them responded appropriately to the ongoing attack. Not until it was over.

then there is just no hope for them.

It's hard to negotiate with the enemy if you don't talk to them.

because he broke the illegal activities of Reagan and the Bush Sr in the Iran-Contra scandal.

That's what this is all about. Hume parroting a newsmax story is just a continuation of the payback for blowing the lid off how rethugs tried to destroy this country the first time around.

to get back their comrades, instead they have to think of another way to bash Kerry.

meh...who cares.