You're Forgetting the Hidden Hammer in Friday's Debate........

We're having a lot of discussion here today of whether Bush can hold himself together on Friday (stop the goofy face routine, etc.) or just clear some low expectation bar, etc. I just realized there is another component that is going to show up on Friday night.

A good half of this debate will take place in a terrority Bush does not want to go - domestic issues. There will be a lot of seniors, those getting ready to retire, those without health insurance, etc. listening Friday. Bush has nothing to run on. Kerry has all the ammo to expose him as working for the rich and ignorning everyone else. No one who is concerned about these issues is going to find comfort in Bush's endless, monotonous, usual spew.

So, 'style/performance points' this time are only a part of the picture. Just like the people thought Kerry had better ideas about Iraq, they are going to be doubly blown away to see that Kerry is tackling the issues that effect them the most and Bush is just doing the same old, dry tap dance. "Content" points are what will bury Bush Friday. Who the hell would warm up to his 'content' except a few rich?

"this was the one he was supposed to win," now Bush is screwed. He has no domestic record to run on. The economy is anemic, the prescription drug bill was a confusing, pharmecutical industry back-scratcher, and he hasn't funded homeland security. He's a joke and he's fucked.

trying to drill them into the public's mind. He will lie, in the exact same fashon as Cheney did, big lies, blatantly, and often.

Big lies, lots of slander. That's what Sen. Kerry will be up against in the next debate. Bush will try to make it a he said, she said debate.

little Smirk just keeps pleading (and can you just hear it right now clawing at your eardrums), "I have a plan...a plan...we need a plan and I have a plan". And you know what else from a visual standpoint. Friday they can walk around the stage. The physical comparison will then be evident......whimpy little fraud.

He's had four years to DO SOMETHING, and in that time all he's managed to do is formulate a plan? That's so weak. And how many years will it take him to start setting this plan in motion?

Kerry can lay him out on this point... bush has done one thing domestically, and that's cut taxes for the super-rich and corporations. In every other arena, he has done zip. He has no record to run on.

He knows, we'll all know, Bush lives in a house of mirrors and can't believe anyone would criticize him.:hurts:

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the new estamates are only slighty worse than the old estamates isn't going to matter, exept for the fact that big media will trumpet the propaganda as some type of big win for Bush. But the numbers themselves are horrible, even though the spin is slanted towards the GOP.

and plenty of them. I suspect we'll hear nothing else from Bush's mouth during the entire debate.

and it may look especially good compared to the especially sucky ones from the last few months.

If it does turn out to be a good report, Kerry will have to find a way to put it in perspective, point out how far off Bush's predictions about the effects of his tax cuts were.

But Bush will keep pounding that good number, we may even hear him say "turning the corner" again.

I hope senior citizens who are struggling with medicare and social security get to hear that line Friday. I also hope Kerry brings up Bush 41 and his concentration on the deficit. Shove daddy right in the little boys face, again.

or is it "too hot" in that it was shown in F911?

I watched again last night the Hardball special on the history of presidential debates. I wanted my daughter to see Bill Clinton as he was then since that election happened before she was born.

In the town-hall debate between Clinton, G.H.W. Bush, and Perot, the clip was shown where the woman in the audience asked the candidates how the national deficit had personally effected them. Bush didn't understand the question and began talking about the deficit in general terms. When he was stopped and had the question asked again to him, he was downright rude to the woman.

Then, they showed Clinton walking up to this woman and making a "connection" with her while answering her question as he told about personally knowing people in Arkansas that had lost their jobs and business owners that had lost their companies. His answer displayed to the viewers that he understood our lives. And while he was answering, you could see Bush checking his watch! It was a priceless and telling moment in that race.

Now, no one has the ability to make a personal connection with voters like Bill Clinton does --he's one of a kind. (Good Lord, he's good.) But I'm sure Kerry and his advisers remember that moment. Bush may too, but his inherited personality traits from both his mother and father may come oozing out. He obviously wanted to be anywhere but at the debate last Thursday. If he shows any inkling of the same tomorrow night, he's history.

(If you haven't seen the Hardball special with Matthews and Brokaw, you should. It's very interesting.)

It could get sticky for Kerry if someone brings them up, which would in turn give the media a reason to claim that Bush won.

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rocknation

I really wouldn't be surprised if there is one of those memorable moments that occurs in this debate, that everyone looks back on years from now as the proverbial nail in Bush's coffin. I think it could come when he addresses a parent of a dead soldier, although with the screening process it doesn't seem likely that he will be blindsided. A town hall meeting where he doesn't know exactly what's coming truly is Bush's worst nightmare.

...besides the radio that drives his earpiece.

Rove has probably been threatening and cajoling all week to get
control of the questions and the audience, if he does not have
it already. Gallup is picking the audience, and they have demonstrated
their willingness to do the bidding of the regime.

Fact is, everyone HAD really low expectations for * in last week's debate,
and Boooosh managed to dash even those.
I don't think even anyone here expected Booosh to fall apart like that.

In Tuesday's debate, Cheney didn't beat out Edwards, but he certainly
beat out Boosh in that he could at least articulate his lies.

Of course, now the expectations of the Master'bater in the upcoming
debates are about as low as they can get. But now, just meeting
those expectations isn't good enough. He has to come off as being
at least somewhat Presidential.

Another performance like last week
may make his attempt to steal the election
look a lot like Shevardnadze's
and work about as well.