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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:50 AM
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San Diego still backwards
The citizens here had an opportunity to vote in a more transparent and open form of City government but instead chose the "good old boy" network.

Sanders win over Frye reinforces that this region is filled with ditto heads. These freaks claim to be all for "we the people" but when it comes down to it they are superficial sheep who, in their ignorance, vote in the corporate bottom line as it buys off City Hall.

What do you expect from a military town?
RW talk shows, ignorance, and hyperbole run rampant down here.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 09:48 AM
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1. We could do a lot worse than Sanders
So let's see if he can follow through or if he will turn out to be a flop. Like Arnie and Bush we are giving them a lot of rope; will he use it to hang himself?

Also I strongly suspect that Sanders is nowhere near as right as Rick Roberts and Roger Hedgecock will like so they will be dogging him hard in a few weeks. Especially after he realizes he can't fix the problems without raising taxes.

And Donna is still on the City Council.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:19 AM
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3. I'm not very happy either this morning...
I really thought that San Diego was starting to turn a different direction. But with the vote for mayor as well as the two city council races, and the way San Diego voted on the props, I think it's going to be a long time before this community collectively comes to its senses. I don't think we've seen the last of the Cunningham's, Murphy's, Goldings, pension boards, etc. This community just doesn't seem to truely want to care about voting in its own best interests to get people in charge that we can trust.

I'm going to step back and see how things work out with Sanders in charge and won't give up immediately, but I certainly am not going to start looking to buy a house around here now (like I might have had Donna won). If the situation with debt, scandals, etc. gets any worse here, I think it might be time for me to start looking at other places to settle down. Today I'm really missing the culture of what I knew to be the Bay Area culture I left over four years ago to come here.

There's a few more fights to fight before the 2006 elections happen that I'll try to help with before I give up on the community here, but I'm not going to spend near the same amount of sacrifice in time and money as I did for Donna this time:

1) Try to push out Cunningham over the next couple of months to trigger a special election for his seat and either get Busby elected then or later in the 2006 elections.
2) With the scandals that happen, and might continue to happen before 2006, try to help getting "clean elections" on the ballot here locally and passed in 2006.

If neither of those efforts yield any reward, that's the time I start looking elsewhere for a place I want to buy a home and settle down in. 2006 will probably be decision time for me then.

My hat still goes off to Donna for fighting the good fight. She still should have been elected mayor if the votes had been counted properly for the first election a year ago.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 10:16 AM
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2. Jerry Murphy.
That's what they call him at city hall. He's a fucking joke. Bought and paid for by the same land developers like Alex Spanos that want everything to remain exactly the same as it is now for them. Speaking of that, it looks like Spanos will get the land for his new stadium handed to him for nothing now.

I think there were a hell of a lot of single issue voters out in force yesterday just because of the Chargers stadium deal. The radios were hammering tha constantly the last month.
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belab13 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 11:12 PM
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4. Yep - Sanders has his masters. City employees will be experiencing
the great depression a year perhaps two years before the rest of the country.
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Oerdin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 04:01 AM
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5. I voted for Frye but...
Even I have to admite she did horrible in the TV & radio debate. She didn't come across as someone with anwsers while Sanders did. Supposedly it was one of the most watched local debates in history and given the low turn out about the only people who were watching it were the likely voters. That means a very large percentage of the people who actually bothered to vote didn't see Frye at her best.
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