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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:11 PM
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Man fires at car, accidentally shoots self in leg
(WTNH-TV, New Haven, CT) http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=4596691

"(New Haven-WTNH, Mar. 7, 2006 11:30 AM) _ It was a bizarre situation in New Haven this morning. Police say a man fired shots into a gray Acura near Harper Avenue.

Police tell News Channel 8 that the man loaned the car to someone yesterday and when he went to get it back the person wouldn't give the car back, so he fired at the car and accidentally shot himself in the leg."


Another wonderful example of how guns can help you solve your problems.

Redstone
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:15 PM
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1. Barney?
I thought he left us last week :shrug:

Who took the bullet out of his pocket?

Seriously, what a wonderful way to solve all your problems. Some people will always shoot first. Makes you feel real safe doesn't it?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:16 PM
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2. Was his name Cheddar Bob?
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:16 PM
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3. Sounds like we need a new law...
We can call it "Discharging a Firearm While Stupid," or DFWS. We can use this incident as an example of a violation. I'm anti-death penalty, though, so I don't really know what punishment we should assess... maybe we can shoot him in the OTHER leg...


Just kidding! <ducking>

This sounds almost good enough for the Darwin awards...
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:44 PM
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17. I believe the appropriate penalty is
a hunting trip with Duck Cheney.

"Duck? I thought we were hunting Quail!... NO, you idiot! DUCK!"
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:19 PM
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4. Let me get this straight....
I loan someone MY car. They don't bring it back to me, so I go to get it. When they won't give it back... I shoot at MY car? (then I shoot myself in the leg). Huh?!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:28 PM
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9. Apparently, he was aiming at his foot, and missed
Doh!
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:31 PM
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11. Brings to mind a few questions...
Where was the person to whom the car was loaned? Was that person (perhaps) inside the car (and the shot riccocheted off the car for whatever reason)? Was this "crazy" person perhaps attempting to exercise his right to protect his own property?

I don't know the answers, but the article and your comments made me wonder...
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:21 PM
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5. Hey! It's his Constitutional right to shoot himself in the leg.
Next time maybe he'll hit his crotch and save us from passing on his "exceptional" genes.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:22 PM
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6. The gun itself wasn't the problem
The problem was the irresponsible manner in which the gun was used.

Or, the nut behind the trigger.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:23 PM
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7. Or, maybe the fact that the nut could GET a gun?
Maybe?

Redstone
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:27 PM
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8. We don't know for sure that he owned the gun legally, do we?
We do know that he used it in an unlawful manner, and may be prohibited from ever owning one from here on.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:28 PM
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10. And my we certainly have a lot of those.
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 04:29 PM by superconnected
I don't think anyone is blaming the "gun". I think they are blaming the people that tote guns.

Sure there are some that are flat out stupid, it's just hard to see the ones that aren't, through the information we get on the news.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:32 PM
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12. I doubt that "toting" was the real issue here
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 04:33 PM by slackmaster
He may or may not have had the gun legally in his possession. Carrying a concealed loaded weapon is possible in Connecticut - see http://www.packing.org/state/connecticut/ - but I very much doubt this yahoo had a permit. If he did, this is great fodder for the "blood will run in the streets" and "Wild West" doomsayers who oppose weapons permits.

He discharged it in a negligent and unlawful manner. If he has a permit, he should lose it forever.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:34 PM
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14. What's the big deal?
It's not like he shot a 75 year old man in the face! :evilgrin:
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Bob K Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:41 PM
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15. Aimlessness
this incident could serve up the recipient of the first Dick Cheney hot shot award! :blush:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:43 PM
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16. OK, you made my day with that one
Thanks!
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groton Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 02:02 AM
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22. He could easy of had a blue card
I dont know maybe
the Round did just Bounce off the car.
and the car is his proporty.
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Dolomite Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:34 PM
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13. I agree, the information we get through the news regarding firearm use
is generally "filtered".
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:04 PM
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19. wrong again
a man able to shoot himself in his foot is able to do a "Cheney" to the little girl playing in the yard across the street...

no guns, no "accidents". If he had ventilated his anger by trhowing an empty beer can at the car, the consequences had been minimal

out of 18 gun incidents in the US, only one can be reported as an accurate defense of oneself or property. The other 17 are related to killing a family member, a neighbour or shooting yourself
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 06:20 PM
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21. Body Count Fallacy
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 06:21 PM by slackmaster
no guns, no "accidents".

Not correct. No guns = no gun accidents. But "no guns" is not a realistic possibility, so your statement is more trite and pointless than it is cute.

If he had ventilated his anger by trhowing an empty beer can at the car, the consequences had been minimal

I have no comment really, other than I enjoyed the way you stated it. Sometimes I "ventilate" my anger by ventilating beer cans, or even car parts. (No offense meant.) ;-)

...out of 18 gun incidents in the US, only one can be reported as an accurate defense of oneself or property. The other 17 are related to killing a family member, a neighbour or shooting yourself....

This is the Body Count Fallacy. It overlooks the fact that defensive use of a gun does not necessarily, even usually, involve firing the gun. You have to artificially define "gun incidents" as "shootings", which is terribly poor logic and not intellectually honest. It's right up there with the debunked Kellerman "A gun in the house is 43 times more likely" nonsense.

I think we can all agree this incident has nothing to do with legitimate self-defense.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:52 PM
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18. must have trained at the Deadeye Dick Cheney school of target shooting
Sounds so much like a Republican
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:14 PM
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20. Another law-abiding responsible gun owner (snicker)
By the way, one of the grand wizards of the "you gotta getta gun" movement got arrested in Michigan for having an illegal arsenal and threatening a girlfriend....

"The media has jumped on the case of Angel Shamaya, but not too many of them have figured out yet exactly who he is. He runs a website called KeepandBearArms.com, has been extremely vocal in the past about those who want to keep the public safe from illegal guns, and just last Saturday got caught by police with what we now find out was a huge cache of illegal weaponry.
A local man was charged with keeping a stockpile of weapons inside his condo and police said he threatened a woman, but Monday he was back on the street.
Oakland County Sheriffs found 15 illegal handguns, 10 long guns and 17,000 rounds of ammunition in 38-year-old Angel Shamaya’s condo."

http://www.gunguys.com/#post-801

And an NRA board member's gun store got shut down by law enforcement for "losing" hundreds of guns....

"Federal agents revoked the firearms license yesterday of a prominent Baltimore County gun shop owned by a National Rifle Association board member, pointing to his repeated failure to account for hundreds of guns listed in his inventory since 1997.
The license seizure came one day after a federal judge dismissed a civil lawsuit filed by Valley Gun of Parkville. Owner Sanford Abrams sued to stop the federal government from taking his license to sell firearms at the store, which has been in operation since 1954.
Abrams is vice president of the Maryland Licensed Firearms Dealers Association and a board member of the National Rifle Association, a leading guns-rights lobbying group. He was elected last year to another three-year term."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-md.guns25feb25,0,3075526.story?coll=bal-local-headlines

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