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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:32 PM
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Christian Store Pulls Magazine With Female Pastors On Cover
Source: Digtriad

Atlanta, GA -- The five women on the cover are dressed in black and smiling -- not an uncommon strategy for selling magazines. But these cover girls are women of the cloth, featured in Gospel Today magazine's latest issue, which the Southern Baptist Convention has pulled from its bookstore shelves, though the magazine is available for sale upon request.

The group says women pastors go against their beliefs, according to their interpretation of the New Testament.



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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:34 PM
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1. grrrrrrrrrrrrr
:grr:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:36 PM
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2. back to the misogynist Paul of Tarsus who said women should remain quiet
that if they had any questions, they should ask their husbands, and that women should never have authority over men. Did you hear that Palin?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:43 AM
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11. one has to be careful when assigning authorship to anything in the Bible
Paul also praised Phoebe as a leader in the Church

and the various letters in the New Testament were never meant to be read by outsiders; only those to whom they were addressed

when you have a lesbian minister defend Paul, you start looking at him in a whole new light
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:52 AM
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12. Or maybe you should start looking at the minister in a whole new light (nm)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 10:01 AM
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20. If a lesbian (or gay) minister is with the MCC churches
those poor souls go through all kinds of mental gymnastics to find a shred of approval for LGBTs in the Bible. It is best to reject the Bible as an authority on anything!
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-08 10:21 PM
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21. I can't decide whether to be snarky or not
your ignorance of the Bible and Christianity as a whole speaks for itself

no use to waste time being snarky
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:37 PM
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3. I'll never understand why any woman embraces such crap
sexist fucking garbage
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:47 PM
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5. Christians must come to grips with a religion based on a petty, bloodthirsty, Middle Eastern god
Edited on Mon Sep-22-08 10:52 PM by IndianaGreen
Keep the ethics worth keeping, and scrap the rest.

God and the State (1871)

Mikhail Bakunin


The Bible, which is a very interesting and here and there very profound book when considered as one of the oldest surviving manifestations of human wisdom and fancy, expresses this truth very naively in its myth of original sin. Jehovah, who of all the good gods adored by men was certainly the most jealous, the most vain, the most ferocious, the most unjust, the most bloodthirsty, the most despotic, and the most hostile to human dignity and liberty - Jehovah had just created Adam and Eve, to satisfy we know not what caprice; no doubt to while away his time, which must weigh heavy on his hands in his eternal egoistic solitude, or that he might have some new slaves. He generously placed at their disposal the whole earth, with all its fruits and animals, and set but a single limit to this complete enjoyment. He expressly forbade them from touching the fruit of the tree of knowledge. He wished, therefore, that man, destitute of all understanding of himself, should remain an eternal beast, ever on all-fours before the eternal God, his creator and his master. But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial ignorance and obedience; he emancipates him, stamps upon his brow the seal of liberty and humanity, in urging him to disobey and eat of the fruit of knowledge.

We know what followed. The good God, whose foresight, which is one of the divine faculties, should have warned him of what would happen, flew into a terrible and ridiculous rage; he cursed Satan, man, and the world created by himself, striking himself so to speak in his own creation, as children do when they get angry; and, not content with smiting our ancestors themselves, he cursed them in all the generations to come, innocent of the crime committed by their forefathers. Our Catholic and Protestant theologians look upon that as very profound and very just, precisely because it is monstrously iniquitous and absurd. Then, remembering that he was not only a God of vengeance and wrath, but also a God of love, after having tormented the existence of a few milliards of poor human beings and condemned them to an eternal hell, he took pity on the rest, and, to save them and reconcile his eternal and divine love with his eternal and divine anger, always greedy for victims and blood, he sent into the world, as an expiatory victim, his only son, that he might be killed by men. That is called the mystery of the Redemption, the basis of all the Christian religions. Still, if the divine Savior had saved the human world! But no; in the paradise promised by Christ, as we know, such being the formal announcement, the elect will number very few. The rest, the immense majority of the generations present and to come, will burn eternally in hell. In the meantime, to console us, God, ever just, ever good, hands over the earth to the government of the Napoleon Thirds, of the William Firsts, of the Ferdinands of Austria, and of the Alexanders of all the Russias.

Such are the absurd tales that are told and the monstrous doctrines that are taught, in the full light of the nineteenth century, in all the public schools of Europe, at the express command of the government. They call this civilizing the people! Is it not plain that all these governments are systematic poisoners, interested stupefies of the masses?

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/bakunin/works/godstate/ch01.htm
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:50 PM
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6. keep the ethics and scrap the religious crap
yes INDEED
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:34 AM
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14. There is no expedient to which a religious person will not go to avoid the labor of thinking. n/t
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 10:44 PM
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4. Can't the just put the magazines in little square burkas?
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 04:55 AM
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16. *snort*
:spray:
:toast:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:41 PM
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7. Do they only sell Southern Baptist material?
If they don't then why don't they remove items that are not Southern Baptist?
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:50 PM
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8. maybe they were nekkid under their clothing?
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 11:55 PM
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9. I think most people are naked under their clothing . . .
aren't they? :)

As for the book store . . . the utter stupidity of the fervently religious never ceases to amaze.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:34 AM
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18. Hey, having woman pastors could lead to worse... like woman pastors DANCING! n/t
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 12:31 AM
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10. Because as we all know, a woman dedicated as a servant of the lord is a disgusting sight
Get thee behid me Satan indeed.



:sarcasm: I hope that was not necessary!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:33 AM
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13.  But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 1 Tim
1 Timothy 2:11-14

2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/1tim/2.html
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 02:36 AM
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15. Breaking The Glass Ceiling
Edited on Tue Sep-23-08 02:37 AM by IanDB1


Can NOT have any of THAT!


1 Timothy 2:11-14
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/1tim/2.html
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Sivafae Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 06:00 AM
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17. Who knew women were so damn dangerous, preaching about the Lord and all?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:34 AM
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19. All I can say is, thank god I'm an Atheist. n/t
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