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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 08:01 PM
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University Student Presidents want rise in Tabacco tax in Iowa
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 08:05 PM by pstans
http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051104/NEWS08/511040369/1001/NEWS

Iowa City, Ia. — Iowa lawmakers should raise the tax on tobacco to help keep college students from lighting up, student leaders said Thursday. Student government presidents at the University of Iowa, Iowa State University and the University of Northern Iowa told the Iowa Board of Regents on Thursday they will push the Legislature in 2006 for a tobacco tax increase as a way to keep young people from smoking.

"I think (the tax) should be at least $1," said Joe Murphy, UNI student body president.

The Legislature failed earlier this year to adopt a plan that would have increased the cigarette tax from 36 cents - one of the lowest in the country - to 72 cents per pack. The increase would have produced about $65 million a year in additional state revenue - money that could have been used for higher education.

But student leaders say their main concern is the health of Iowans. "If you increased the tax to $1, it's estimated 28,000 people would stop smoking," Murphy said. "It's a smart public financing and policy approach."


I totally agree with this. The government should do anything so people don't smoke. The way it is now smokers put a strain on an already poor health care system and the state has to fund that. The extra money is greatly needed and everyone knows that smoking is bad for your health.

When this was getting debated last year in the state legislator, my Republican state Senator, Larry McKibben, said smokers don't live as long as other people, so they shouldn't have to pay as much taxes. This is the worst reasoning that I have ever heard and the tax should increase just for that.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 09:24 PM
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1. My state senator - Jim Hahn - still insists smoking doesn't
cause cancer. He is such a clown. My rep told me he would vote for an increase and then (he's a regressive) didn't. I hate the lies more than anything.
Large increase in tax worked well in New York. Halved the the number of new smokers in a year as I recall.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 09:31 PM
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2. It would be a tax on the poor
The vast majority of smokers are the poorer segment of society. When you raise taxes on the cigarettes, you'll only be taking away needed money from the family.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 10:13 PM
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3. Do these poor families need to be smoking in the first place?
Wouldn't it help them get out of poverty if they would save the couple bucks a day and stop buying packs of cigarettes?
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:22 AM
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4. Yes, some do
There was something I learned about myself last year when I quit smoking: I suffer from depression. My doctor told me it is very common for people to self-medicate with cigarettes, which can treat/hide the symptoms of depression and other illnesses.

I could buy a pack of smokes for roughly $2 and that would last me for a day or two. If I had to pay out-of-pocket for my depression prescription, the cost would be over $4 per day.

Until Iowa and other states are willing to really look at the mental health problems and find true solutions, there are going to be smokers. Until people can afford the prescriptions they need to be mentally stable, there are going to be smokers.

I'm sorry that this information does not fit into today's belief that all smokers are just bad, addicted people. Sometimes the truth is more complicated that the black and white scenario we're given by the press.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:36 AM
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5. A word or two about cigarettes
I am a former smoker who did not suffer from depression. I quit about 19 years ago so I am long past over urges, etc. That being said, I don't mind if people want to smoke, as long as the rest of us don't have to breathe in their second hand smoke. It seems that cigarette smokers are one of the few groups that can still be legally discriminated against. It is almost illegal to light up anymore. Is this wrong? I don't know, but have long maintained that if a person wants to do unhealthy things, then by all means do so. As earlier stated though, just don't subject the rest of us to it. I liken it to getting blotto. If you want to drink yourself into oblivion, feel free to do so, just don't drive and put my life at risk. I suppose the point of all this babbling is that we should all have freedom of choice, including the choice to kill oneself with smoke.To those who say that cigarettes don't cause disease; 10,000 doctors can't be wrong.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:09 PM
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6. Just to clarify
I did not mean to imply that cigarettes don't cause disease and/or that they are not bad for a person. They are and they do. My point is that along with the bad, there are often good side-effects for certain people.

I'll also agree with your discrimination thoughts. It is true: bashing smokers for all the ills of society seems to be a national past-time. :) I read an editorial in either the Register or Gazette (can't remember which one) in which the author now wanted to toss smokers from public spaces (sidewalks, parks, parking lots, etc.)
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:16 PM
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7. I realize that you did not imply cigs don't cause disease
I just wanted to throw that line in there because there are a few who believe that cigs aren't harmful. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:28 PM
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8. Well I am glad I am quiting (sort of).
I have been an on again-off again smoker since about 16 years old or so...and in an on-again stage for about the last 6 years or so. I smoked a little under a pack a day.

Just within the last month or two all cravings just stopped. I don't even have the urge when driving and that was always the worst. It was nothing intentional on my part and I still smoke when I drink and light up every now and then out of boredom, but the urges are just gone.

I would support this tax. I know it would be a huge burden on the poor, much more so than some realize as this is stress outlet for many, but I think it would be better in the long run and we would have fewer new smokers (the goal i think).
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