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Pabst Blue Democrat Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 02:35 PM
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Presidential Elections
We can probably agree that its safe to assume that our state will go to Bush....when was the last time we voted democrat? FDR days, right? Do you think it could at least be close this year? I have heard a surprising amount of anti-shrub sentinment in highly republican areas. What do you guys think?

Is it within the realm of possibility to hope for a margin 5% or less? Even if the electoral votes still went to Bush, closing the gap that far would be a powerful statement as to how much support the administration has lost since 2000.

Wishful thinking? Possible? Thoughts?
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notbush Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 02:31 AM
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1. I think we went Johnson in 64...but that's by my memory,and I'm old.
Ain't No way we win in Kansas this year......
I'm afraid Moore might go down in congress....He isn't (hasn't) even endorsed Kerry himself. Coming from a Repug district...I won't hold it against him.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 09:55 AM
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2. Moore will probably win
re-election, although his campaign is not coasting. They seem to feel that they can beat either Taff or Kobach with reasonable ease. (The third R running, Patricia Lightener, stands no chance of getting the nomination.)

Taff, they've beaten before and know they can beat him again. Kobach can be presented as a right-wing nut case, too closely allied to Ashcroft, too hysterical on right-wing issues.

I've done some volunteer work on Moore's campaign, and while I'm assuredly no member of the inner circle, I've hung around enough to feel my assessments above are accurate.

The real issue facing us Kansans is to elect more Democrats to the State House. Sadly, nearly a third of the Republicans running have no Democrat to face in November. And somewhat scarily, every single moderate Republican -- moderate in this context means they didn't support the gay marriage amendment, and they do support the schools -- all face a right-wing challenger in the primary on August 3rd.

Nancy Boyda is a Democrat running in the 2nd Congressional District, against Jim Ryun. She has decided to support a national gay marriage ban amendment, and she's losing supporters and donations big time as a result.

I spoke with her a week or so ago and she seems to think that her stand is the better one for where she's running, and I just don't think she understands how many of her core support comes from the liberal/progressive wing of the party.
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Pabst Blue Democrat Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:37 AM
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3. Thats a shame about Nancy
And the constitutional ban. I was beginning to think that she actually had a chance....but she's turning her back on the very demographic that she needs to get out there and vote for her.

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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 11:51 AM
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4. You're right about her turning her back
on the very demographic she needs. I spoke with her at a Democratic Women's thing a week ago, and she honestly thinks her stand is the best way to try to keep this from being a non issue. I gather she really does believe that a marriage is strictly between one man and one women. I have no quarrel with her personal beliefs, but supporting a constitutional amendment is nonsense.

Of course, the whole stupid Defense of Marriage Act was one of those absurd, pander to the religious right things that should never have happened.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 10:21 PM
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5. I wish I could vote for you, Sheila
I like you. But I live too far north.

Good luck:yourock:
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 10:27 PM
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6. You could donate to my campaign.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:08 AM
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7. That just killed her. It really was not a smart move by her.
There was a bunch of bad press in the Liberty Press (the state gay newspaper) and people were pissed.
We beat that in the State House and I'll be damned if we send a Dem to Congress who supports it there. Let her lose and we can field a better Dem next time. Let's concentrate on the State House right now.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:09 AM
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8. Johnson actually
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