Mabus! I demand to know all your political contacts in the state!!

You shall reveal to me this truth either publicly or privately!

If not I shall unleash a fury on the world the likes of which you have never witnessed!!!

* Glares. *









<- It's late and I'm bored.

Don't be threatenin our Mabus.
You know how tetchie we Kansas Donkeys get.

<3

Do not risk the wrath of Mabus.

You don't want them pissed at you, believe me...

And I can go from young innocent idealistic person to witch in .3 seconds!!

Whatever "it" is, it is a part of me 24/7. I can't turn it off and on. I just am. Besides, it is better to be a part of the flow and to use energies to further the common good than try to subdue and command them to one's own will or desires. If you've ever centered yourself well enough that you are at peace then you too will hear the music of the universe and you'll understand better.

Always remember, payback is a bitch and sometimes that bitch is named Mabus. :evilgrin:

otherwise I wouldn't have them, would I? But I will give you let you know who one of my national contacts is: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x268655

But thinks for the tid bit of info. I feel like I'm in the know now...

I just thought I'd let you know that my contacts are both close and far. :evilgrin:

Out of curiosity, I'm wondering if your day job is apart of what makes you the Mama of the Kansas part of the DU board.

<- Works at Dillons part time and is a student trying ferociously to get past math classes at KCK.

I must, it takes up all my time. :rofl:

Actually I'm a recovering attorney and an all around busy body who knows way too many people. Some people call me Forrest Gump because I manage to be a lot of places I shouldn't.

And, fwiw, proud2Blib, MuseRider, classicfilmfan and others are the real moms of the Kansas forum. They help keep me in check and scold me from time to time.

That's my goal, is to become a lawyer!! Tell me, if you don't mind my asking, where did you go to lawschool and in the end how much did your tuition actually ring out to? I've been pawing at the idea of joining the military to a degree, reservist or whatnot, as a means of finaincing my education. My four year degree is covered but law school= comet size hole in wallet and hairy scary student loans.

I had scholarships, I worked my ass off while I was in school and, actually before I went to law school, I had saved up as much money as I possibly could to limit the amount of time that I would have to work. In the first year of law school they want you to limit the hours that you work so that you can spend more time studying (I think they try to limit you to 10 hours a week during the first year). There are also plenty of opportunities to work during your time in law school. I had jobs as a research assistant to professors and as a student supervisor in two clinical programs that gave me a steady monthly income. You can also find jobs through local practitioners and law firms.

My advice to you is, start trying to figure out what you kind of law you want to practice, find someone who practices in that area and then approach them. Attorneys and law firms are always looking for people they can groom and potentially hire after they finish school.

Before I went to law school I went to work for a local attorney. I had pretty much decided what areas of the law I was interested in and then I went looking for someone who was already practicing in those areas. I found a local attorney who seemed to fit the bill. I then made a ballsy move and just went into his office and asked him for a job. I explained to him what I wanted to do and told him that I qualified for the work study program. He hired me to work for him I was finishing my undergrad work. I took this approach because I thought I should be familiar with what to expect both in school and afterward. It paid off. Big time. He had a law student who was working for him who taught me a lot of the fine points of legal research. I'm kind of nerdy/geeky anyway so research was something I could really sink my teeth into and I really enjoyed doing. During your first year they spend a lot of time teaching you how to do research because it gives you the basis of everything you'll need to know for the rest of your career. You need to know how to look up cases; use treatises, journals, statutes and find the model codes; how to shepardize (find out if the rule of law has been overturned or how it is treated in different jurisdictions); where/how to find legislative intent (what they legislature meant to accomplish by passing a statute); and basically how to put the pieces together so you have a sound basis for your legal arguments. Writing a legal document is a lot of being given several giant jigsaw puzzles and then taking pieces out of the pertinent puzzles and making a completely different picture.

By the time I got to law school I was ahead of the game because I was familiar with where to find things, how to use them and most of the law school staff & faculty knew me. They were used to seeing me around the library doing research and interacting with the staff. I think it increased my chances when I applied for jobs at the school because they saw me for over a year before I went to law school wandering the library doing research and really trying to learn. Besides, I also took the opportunity to ingratiate myself to them during that year. For example, whenever I ran across something new I would seek out the profs who taught that area and I would have coffee with them and talk about what I should be looking for and where I should be looking. The profs loved me because I was actually asking questions and I would actually listen to what they were saying.

I used to joke that the reason I went to law school was "I was told there would be no math," but there is. You'll do simple math in classes like family law, wills & trusts, business law, tax law and legal accounting. But, if it is any comfort to you, most of the time you won't be required to solve for x.

I want to practice criminal law, not quite sure how to get into that though. I plan on going to KU Law, after my four year degree. But still thinking of how to pay without taking student loans, or just as little as I can. Debt for the loose. :\

Tell me, why are you no longer an attorney?

gist of it is I got burnt out, big time. For the most part, I was spending too much time in the company of heinous murderers and pedophiles during my waking hours. In the evenings and weekends I was reading trial transcripts, going over police reports, crime photos, medical reports and it got to be too much for me emotionally. I think the final straw was the woman who murdered her own child because it took up too much of her time and was interfering with what little time she had for her affair with a neighbor. After several attempts by several different methods (some of them quite brutal) she was finally successful at killing her child. She disposed of the body by "taking it out with the rest of the garbage." There was something about the cruelty that a mother could heap upon her own child that started giving me nightmares. There was something that doesn't sit right when a mother calls her own child it and equates it with garbage.

I was, for a long time, one of those people that put everything I had into whatever I was doing. If I was working on something, I lived it, I breathed it, I knew the facts of each case cold. At some point, I found that what I was doing was having an emotional toll on me. I'm not sure if it was the killer mom or the kid that I was representing whose parents began pimping him out when he was about eighteen months old or if it was the pedophile I helped get out on appeal that pushed me to rethink what I was doing. All I know is that I just stopped enjoying what I was doing and needed a breather. I had begun looking at people in a totally different and disturbing way. I would be at the grocery store and see a young mother scolding her child and I would have trouble breathing. I'd see someone who resembled the pedophile near a school and my heart would catch in my throat. I knew it wasn't the guy I helped free but, in my mind, it could be someone like him. So I walked away while I still had some of my own sanity left.

fwiw, I have been thinking about going back but with a different emphasis but I'm in no big hurry.