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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:27 PM
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Anti-gay marrage ammendment to be reintroduced
Michelle Bachmann will resurrect here single issue she always talks about, the anti-gay marriage ammendment. No matter what else needs to be passed, this trival, hateful, and meaningless bill should be shot down.

http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2005/03/08_scheckt_samesex/

"St. Paul, Minn. — The issue to ban gay marriage was bitterly divisive last session. Supporters of the measure held vigils and prayed regularly at the Capitol while opponents wore T-shirts saying the measure was hate-filled politics. The debate was so fierce that the Senate sponsor was cut off from speaking when she tried to bring up the bill in the final hours of session.

The bill is back this year and the rhetoric could be just as heated.
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Rep. Dan Severson, R-Sauk Rapids, is sponsoring the amendment this year in the house. He believes the country will have significant moral problems if gay marriage is allowed in Minnesota.

"I believe in the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman. I believe that that is the cohesion that keeps our country together. Without that cohesion we become subject to a lot of areas that we don't want to go down as a people," he said.

Supporters have been pushing for the amendment since 2003. That's when the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled gay marriage should be legal in that state. The Minnesota House overwhelmingly passed the amendment banning gay marriage in the 2004 session. The real test will be in the Senate, which didn't vote on the measure at all.
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Sen. Michele Bachmann, R-Stillwater, believes that momentum is on her side this year. Bachmann, who is a candidate for Congress in Minnesota's 6th District, says voters in 13 states have passed ballot measures forbidding gay marriage in the past year. She says political pressure will force a Senate vote.
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:48 PM
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1. Enough of the Evil Axis: Marriage of Church-State!
Dan Severson's arguement is sheer rubbish! The notion that gay marriage threatens somehow the "sanctity of marriage" between a man and woman or that somehow gay marriage would threaten the cohesion of the people here amounts to nothing more than more political rangling and unbelievable pompous phobia. I wish that our "political machines" operating here could briefly come back to Earth long enough to recall that "DIVERSITY" is mainstream here! The problem is NOT the small minorities of people here who are gay and would like to be treated fairly as others, but the sick and hateful marriage here between a hypocritic church and hypocritic state!
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 07:15 PM
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2. Dan Severson sez:
"I believe in the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman. I believe that that is the cohesion that keeps our country together. Without that cohesion we become subject to a lot of areas that we don't want to go down as a people,"

I believe you're full of shit. In fact, "some people" say you're full of shit.

BTW - does that 45% divorce rate in this country - which is actually HIGHER among religious types than it is atheists - stand as the "cohesion" you're talking about?

Asshole.
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MrZack Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 08:25 PM
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3. sick
Yet another good reason to NEVER get married and be proud of it: to show defiance to these fascist, backwoods pieces of degenerate shit.
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RedFireDiamonds Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 10:22 PM
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4. Just ridiculous...
I read most of the Republican Party Platform that was adopted in 20004, August I believe. I remember reading this small paragraph in the very beginning...

"Republicans have always been the Party of fresh ideas and new thinking. We encourage debate on the major issues of our day, and we will consistently act in accord with the greatest values of our country – freedom and opportunity for all."

That's an exact quote found on page two and when I read that my first thought was that the GOP supports freedom and opportunity for all, providing that you are Christian and are certainly not gay. They say that they support all freedoms for all individuals but when they even think to introduce anti-homosexual legislation they aren't exactly acting those words out, are they?
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:06 PM
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5. GO MICHELLE GO!!!
I truly pray to Allah that she will get the GOP endorsement for the 6th CD next year.

Damn, we could run a ham sandwich and win in a landslide.

IMHO we need to encourage this kind of flat-earth thinking in the GOP so that their party goes even further rightward than it did last year.

If they do that, the 2004 election (where they lost 13 seats in the state house) will look like a walk through the park for our GOP legislators.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 11:24 PM
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6. Ah, but what do we do about the DFLers who vote for this?
Last year my state rep voted for it (and she voted to remove benefits coverage from the state employees contract for Gay couples). She did get hammered for it at the Senate District convention, but I know she'll vote for it again because she depends on Republicans to win (I know a lot of DFLers in my district who haven't bothered to vote in the state house race the last couple election cycles). She is one of those reps who never casts a vote without weighing how it will affect her reelection, because her reelection is all that is truly important.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 12:23 AM
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7. I doubt it will get past the Senate
The DFL has enough of a majority to stop it dead in its tracks, with our without some of the "conservatives". Also, there's a couple more liberal Repubs still out there that would block it-- like Sheila Kiscaden in Rochester (okay, she WAS a Repub until Dick Day booted her from the caucus-- now she's an independent).

If it didn't go through last year, I doubt it will get through this year. Not only does the DFL control more seats, it's also a budget year. And given the current state of the budget, I'd be suprised if the Bachmann bill even makes it out of committee.
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SupormomFreeAtLast Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 12:59 AM
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8. My thoughts exactly.
If it didn't pass last year, I don't see it having a chance this year.
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MnFishhead Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 12:43 PM
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9. Bachmann gay son mystery unresolved
There was a controversy over a Twin Cities-area blogger who indicated he was Michele Bachmann's gay son. It never was fully resolved, and the blogger sort of disappeared. Anyone ever hear more about that little mystery?
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awsmith89 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:29 PM
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10. There is already a law
There is already a law outlawing gay marriage in Minnesota, the religious right just wants something to complain about. It's never about rights, it's never about morals, it's always about politics with them.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:45 PM
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11. No, its about power
that is the true side of their politics. It is not goverance or morals.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 08:53 PM
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12. They're afraid an "activist" court
could declare that law unconstitutional so they feel they have to write discrimination into the state Constitution.

Besides, it's a "great" way to keep people's minds off the way the right wing wants to turn Minnesota into East Dakota.
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