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David Van Os Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:32 AM
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I'll revoke corporate charters
Various persons have asked me whether as Texas Attorney General I will apply a "three strikes and you're out" policy to corporations such as is applied to human beings, meaning whether I'll take action to revoke a corporation's charter if it receives three criminal convictions.

Article 4, Section 22 of the Texas Constitution lays upon the Texas Attorney General the duty to monitor the activities of private corporations and to pursue judicial forfeiture of their charters upon sufficient cause. This is talking about civil action, not criminal prosecution. The burden of proof the Attorney General has to meet in civil actions is less than the burden of proof in criminal prosecutions - proof beyond a reasonable doubt is not required. Thus the Constitution does not require conviction of crimes for the Attorney General to pursue charter revocation; rather, the legal requirement is "sufficient cause."

Government belongs to the people and the Attorney General is the people's lawyer. Thus any corporation's convictions of multiple criminal offenses would clearly be sufficient cause for me as Attorney General to undertake charter revocation action. After all, the United States Supreme Court declared 120 years ago that corporations are persons under the 14th Amendment. Thus the receipt of multiple criminal convictions should entitle the people to treat corporations the same way the people treat human beings who receive multiple criminal convictions.

More importantly, when I'm Attorney General my duty to the people under the Texas Constitution will not allow me to set an arbitrary minimum threshold of misconduct, such as three criminal convictions, to trigger charter revocation action. Although the corporate government that runs the show today doesn't realize it, corporations are holders of public trust. They operate under charters issued by the State granting them the privilege of corporate existence. Even one violation of the public trust - which need not necessarily be a criminal offense - may lead me to find sufficient cause to seek charter revocation under the Constitution if the corporation's conduct represents a continuing danger to the public trust.

David Van Os
Democratic Candidate
For Texas Attorney General 2006
www.vanosfortexasag.com

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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:21 AM
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1. I like the idea
But what's to prevent the Secretary of State from reinstating them with only a slap on the wrist?

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David Van Os Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 02:11 AM
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2. Wording the injunction right,
a simple matter of good wordsmithing.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 08:13 AM
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3. Go David Go David Go David
David's having a party this weekend in Austin with Jim Hightower. You're invited.

http://www.vanosfortexasag.com/events/dec3.shtml
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:35 PM
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4. I gotta say, I like it!
There was a good discussion this morning here about the "11th Amendment" for the original Bill of Rights..The whole concept of "corporate personhood" is screwy.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:12 PM
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5. I like it too.
However, are there practical implications to be concerned about?

For example, if you revoke the charter of a corporation in Texas, will that mean a lot of people could potentially lose their jobs?

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David Van Os Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 05:36 PM
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9. A fair question, and here's my take.
Over and over, corporations get away with bloody murder by threatening job loss. Corporate America used the threat of job loss throughout the 1980s and 1990s to get unions to negotiate takaways and givebacks, then the companies closed the plants anyway after a year or two of getting more work for less pay. As a union lawyer I have seen the heartbreak of plant closure up close way too many times. I have worked closely in union halls with union leaders and workers facing the bitter choice between loss of jobs and continuation for a temporary respite with lower pay. I have swallowed the bitter pill, more times than I care to count, of negotiating concessionary agreements in the hope of saving a workplace, only to see the workplace shut down anyway. I have seen workers taken in by more lies about, "if you give us these concessions we guarantee you this plant won't shut down," than I care to think about. I have been on the receiving end myself of more lies of that nature from management negotiators than I care to think about. In considering the grave step of seeking charter revocation, I will take community economic impact into account, but I will not give in to corporate blackmail using Texas working people as pawns.

In any event, in cases where I feel compelled to pursue charter revocation, my objective will never be to shut a workplace down and cease production. It will be to come up with a solution through the dissolution process that takes the charter away from the people who abused the public trust, and places the enterprise into other hands that will run the business without abusing the privilege of corporate organization.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 07:17 PM
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12. Good answer.
I pretty much agree with you on all points.

I especially like the part about finding a way to keep the workplace operating.

Also once corporations see that this can happen, perhaps they won't be so careless with the public trust any more.

Good luck in your campaign!

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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:16 PM
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6. This is the kind of backbone we need
Government is for the people, not to protect corrupt corporations that impose their cut throat profiteering at the expense of the common good. A corporation should not have more protection than the people. But that's exactly what we have now. We have a class of protection for corporations that is monopolistic. The only way corporations will act like good citizens, is if they can truly be regulated. They should be held accountable and be shut down for corrupt behavior. They are not above the law.

Thank you David!

sonia
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 01:58 PM
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7. holy crap! i might move back to austin just to vote for you!
revoking corporate charters is the one perfectly legal and VERY powerful way to wrest power back so that corporations serve the people instead of the other way around.

best of luck slaying those dragons!
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 05:09 PM
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8. Okay. I'll vote for you. n/t
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:22 PM
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10. David as ever I am glad you are on our side. We need your help.
Edited on Wed Nov-30-05 06:22 PM by Vincardog
With it we can beat back the tide of Fascism. Thank you.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:28 PM
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11. Fascism Then. Fascism Now?
In case anyone hasn't seen this DU link on the greatest page. This is exactly why you have to rein in corporate control of the government. People do forget how corporations were involved in the rise of the fascist governments in Germany and Italy. Go read this article and get a refresher course. And then fight like hell with David for TX Attorney General.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=greatest_threads

Published on Monday, November 28, 2005 by the Toronto Star (Canada)
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1128-24.htm
Fascism Then. Fascism Now?
(snip)
Before the rise of fascism, Germany and Italy were, on paper, liberal democracies. Fascism did not swoop down on these nations as if from another planet. To the contrary, fascist dictatorship was the result of political and economic changes these nations underwent while they were still democratic. In both these countries, economic power became so utterly concentrated that the bulk of all economic activity fell under the control of a handful of men. Economic power, when sufficiently vast, becomes by its very nature political power. The political power of big business supported fascism in Italy and Germany.

Business tightened its grip on the state in both Italy and Germany by means of intricate webs of cartels and business associations. These associations exercised a high degree of control over the businesses of their members. They frequently controlled pricing, supply and the licensing of patented technology. These associations were private but were entirely legal. Neither Germany nor Italy had effective antitrust laws, and the proliferation of business associations was generally encouraged by government.

This was an era eerily like our own, insofar as economists and businessmen constantly clamored for self-regulation in business. By the mid 1920s, however, self-regulation had become self-imposed regimentation. By means of monopoly and cartel, the businessmen had wrought for themselves a "command and control" economy that replaced the free market. The business associations of Italy and Germany at this time are perhaps history's most perfect illustration of Adam Smith's famous dictum: "People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices."
(/snip)


Sonia
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 09:04 PM
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13. Wish I could vote for you.
More people need to see this...
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Poet Lariat Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:12 PM
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14. As I’ve read your words today and over the past few weeks on your quest
...to become Texas’ next Attorney General, it occurs to me that you are not a man who takes what he says lightly. One of the first things that struck me is your ability to put into plain words what I, and I believe many other Texans have known for a long time. That our state government has been taken over by people who don’t share our values about right and wrong - and that we will have to fight to take it back.

What you have written above and below resonates with me and I think it may with others as well. Since your post today has made it to the Greatest page, I’ve taken the liberty to take some of your writings out of context and use them to further the discussions you have started here on the Texas forum. What you are doing is a “Texas Thing” but may also have implications and value for others who are trying to take back their own state governments. Thank God you're from Texas!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=180x23136
>snip<
It is time to forget "right-left" analysis and install "right-wrong" analysis. It is time to replace the "liberal-conservative" spectrum with the "liberty-tyranny" spectrum. It is time to stop worrying about how to get money from big donors and start worrying about how to get more money into working people's paychecks. It is time to fight for better lives for voters instead of peddle promises to voters. It is time to treat public office as a duty, not a promotion. We must fight for the people, not in order to win their votes, but in order to win them justice.
>snip<

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=180x23277
>snip<
Fighting to restore government to the people means: defending the people against the predatory exercise of monopoly power by big corporations, instead of protecting the corporations by winking and looking the other way. It means: defending democracy from being ripped off by the buying and selling of public votes for private gain. It means: defending the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the people of Texas. It means: fighting to preserve the ownership of government by we the people, using the tools of office that the founders of Texas wisely provided to the people’s lawyer, the Attorney General, for just such purpose.
>snip<


The prospect of taking on such a powerful adversary is daunting. How do you go about changing peoples attitudes who are discouraged? How do you energize the electorate to get out and vote to take back their state and constitutional rights? How do you go about ridding the government of corruption and special interest cronyism? A big part of the answer, I believe, lies in the following:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=180x23074
Here in Texas, a lot of us grassroots Democrats have known for a long time that the Democrats didn't lose the heartland vote over ideological refinements. They lost it because they turned into the Wimp Party. People like fighters. They figure if you're not a fighter as a campaigner, then they sure won't be able to count on you to fight for them when you're in office.
>snip<

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=180x23136
>snip<
It is time to cease the followership strategies of scripting campaigns on the basis of what people thought yesterday in polls, and assert the leadership strategies of campaigning for what we know to be right based on our deepest convictions of what we want for tomorrow. It is time to stop worrying about whom we might offend if we speak truth to power, and start worrying about what value are our lives if we don't speak truth to power.
>snip<
The more courageously and more vigorously we fight for the people against economic, cultural, and political tyranny, all the sooner will they turn to us. When that happens we will be prepared to win for the people, because we will already be thinking like winners and conducting ourselves as winners. We will dare to fight and dare to win.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=180x23400
>snip<
Everywhere we go, we attack the predatory political and corporate elites head-on, and fight them tooth and nail on behalf of the people. We carry the fight to the enemy head-to-head against the Radical Republican incumbent, and we keep carrying it to him, and we don't play any nicey-nice as if this were just a parlor game; we play tough and determined because it's real, real life and it's real, real struggles for the great majority of the people who get nothing out of having a corporate mouthpiece for an attorney general. We never concede a millionth of an inch of ground to the Radical Republicans; we confront their lies head on at all times.


Lastly, although this will be a daunting task, I feel it can be accomplished if enough people believe in and are willing to fight for it. The office you seek as Attorney General has been given special powers to make this possible. As you stated so eloquently in your post today, “Government belongs to the people and the Attorney General is the people's lawyer.” I think you are right and I think it is high time we did something about it!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=180x23277
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Grassroots Texans have always believed that government belongs to the people. All over our state people from all walks of life are fed up with the rip-off of their democracy and they want it back. The Texas Constitution (Art. 4, Sec. 22) directs the Attorney General of Texas to protect democracy from corporate special-interest government and gives him the tools of office to do it. I've received all my education and lived all my life in Texas; I love this state; and I've vowed to honor the education and training Texas gave me by using them to answer the moral imperative of our time, to restore government to the people. Those coming before us who founded self-governing democracy intended that it last forever. For my part I will not let it go down, and my part is clear to me. This state belongs to all the people, and they are entitled to a people's lawyer as Attorney General who’ll fight to restore it to them.
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