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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:31 PM
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No special election to fill DeLay's seat...
Can someone explain this to me? If Perry doesn't select someone, who will be on the ballot?


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DeLay's Seat to Be Filled in November (no Special Election)


AUSTIN, Texas - Gov. Rick Perry said Thursday he will not call an emergency special election to replace Republican Rep. Tom DeLay, meaning the suburban Houston congressional seat will be left unfilled until November.

DeLay, who is under indictment on campaign finance charges, announced this week that he will resign sometime before mid-June.

The Democratic candidate for the seat, former Rep. Nick Lampson, had called on the governor to set a May 13 special election so the district would be represented after DeLay leaves.

Perry, Republican, refused without elaborating. However, the election of a Democrat now could give the Democratic Party a leg up in November.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060406/ap_on_go_co/delay_r...
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WestHoustonDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:41 PM
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1. There is a difference between filling the vacant seat when
DeLay resigns in June, and Republican party appointing someone be on the ballot in November. The issue is the 7 months between the June resignation and the swearing in of DeLay's replacement as elected in 11/2006. Without a special election, District 22 has no representation until then.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:46 PM
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2. So the party will appoint someone prior to November but
with no stipulation when. OK, got it. Thanks, WHD. And that means I'm not being represented at all; just great. (Not that I ever felt the bugman had my best interests at heart to begin with)
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:23 PM
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3. They're scared Lampson will win a special election
In a special election, anyone is welcome to compete. So they have way too many repukes who want a piece of the action. They know that would likely mean that 3-4 repuke candidates would split the fundie base vote and Nick as the only organized candidate and Democrat would likely win. They see their best shot as appointing a candidate to run in November through their executive committee, and then uniting behind one candidate.

CD22 will not have representation for the fall session. They're off in the summer anyway.

Cowards!

Sonia
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longabach Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:32 PM
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4. The Real Reason Tom DeLay Quit
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 06:33 PM by longabach
Hi Texans,

I'm in PA but I ran across this and wondered what Texans think?

http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs/editorials/signs20060406_TheRealReasonTomDeLayQuit.php

Tom DeLay's having "won" his party's primary uncovered some very damaging voting "problems" and seriously questionable vote counts in the elections machinery of numerous Texas counties. The primary's balloting was done on ES&S machines, an electronic voting company started and owned by Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, upon which company's iVotronic machines being first used throughout Nebraska he won his own first "election" to the Senate in 1996, of course. He won by a "stunning upset victory" when he'd been more than 17 points behind in statewide polls the night before.

The Texas Republican primary's "irregularities" have been gaining more, and more widespread, indy, alternative and Texas press coverage for the past several weeks thanks specifically to Tom DeLay's "unexpected" victory over both his young and highly popular "new school" Republican opponent and an older moderate. Both of DeLay's opponents had been out-polling him by healthy margins, but, come that night, after the polls closed, there was DeLay being pronounced the "winner" again, as always. Since no one got more than 50% of the total vote, however, DeLay now must face the run-off election against the opponent who came in "second" in the March voting.

In short, DeLay had to quit now in an attempt to keep the "secret" of the totally rigged elections in Texas, and thus across the nation, from getting too well covered and too widely known. The PTB are trying to put the "genii" back into the bottle, but it may be a bit too late for that. TOM DELAY WAS TOO POLITICALLY "HOT" AND TOO "TOXIC" TO THE VOTERS TO GET AWAY WITH IT THIS TIME. He did NOT "win" his primary, and there were all kinds of things wrong with the vote counts, and the machines counting the votes. The complaints were coming in long before the polls closed, and in large numbers, from all those counties mentioned in the article below.

The worst mistake they made was that this time the opposition to DeLay from all the traditionally Republican Right voting blocks was very active and obviously a clear cut majority of even his most formerly visible and loyal consitutents had decided they wanted him out. The impossibility of his "victory" in the March primary was made so obvious that none of the old lies and "justifications" were accepted this time, and the facts of voting "problems" galore at last carried more weight with the public than the standardized "explanatory" propaganda and lies typically used to account for all of the neocons' "stunning upset victories." No amounts of the party bosses and pundits of Texas citing and tallying up various combinations of bizarre interest groups, alleged to make up the aggregate legion of mythical voters who loved DeLay enough to put him up for re-election no matter what, kept the public from immediately raising a loud and ongoing ruckus about the vote counts being way off. This time, the public knew there was NO WAY DELAY HAD WON ANY FAIR PRIMARY.

He is OUT now in order to try to keep the massive, nationwide elections fraud IN for this year. The best way to get the average, mildly brain damaged American to figure out that the US government is totally crooked, and a far more believable, graspable and do-able issue to their limited capacities, IS INFORMING THEM OF THE SYSTEMATIZED ELECTIONS FRAUD FOR THE PAST 10 ELECTIONS (at least) UNTIL THEY FINALLY "GET IT." They get scammed out of an average of 18% to 20% of their money by the computerized price "scanners" in grocery stores and Wal-Mart's every day, and the vote scamming is something they can relate to. They have a simpler, localized, known reference frame to compare it to and use in understanding it.

The whole set of proofs that there was no jumbo jet at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001 is simply beyond the limited cognitive abilities of most Americans. (Read the article, "Word Control, Thought Control, World Control, Part 2" that I sent to you a while back for the facts on the serious, induced cognitive deficits now present in at least a full 70% of the American populace.) Asking them to "grok" the facts of 9/11, even just at the Pentagon, is too much for them. They cannot be awakened by concepts that are literally beyond their cognitive grasp. The proofs of 9/11's manifest and multiple crimes are so far beyond their functional capacities and life experiences that it is like asking them to understand a foreign language that they simply cannot learn now and have never heard before. They lack the very abilities to "grok" the core concepts essential to comprehension.

The difference between awakening the American public to the FACTS of nationwide vote fraud, in regard to bringing BushCo down, rather than trying to do the same with the 9/11 FACTS, is, IMHO, the difference between telling people on the decks of a sinking ship where the lifeboats are, how to launch them and how to use the oars in them, or telling them how the life boats were built and mounted, bolt by bolt, including all of the engineering knowledge involved, in preparation for their then putting all of those facts together for themselves in order to figure out on their own how to use the boats to get off the ship before it sinks and they drown. I did not know, consciously, exactly why I was so certain of this until I learned, in doing the second "Word Control..." article, just exactly how bad and how widespread ARE the American public's induced cognitive deficits, at all levels of society and in all regards.

Computerized scammers, whether for votes or grocery money, are a subject simple enough that they CAN get it. It is something they deal with every day. Stolen votes they actually get, and they get mad enough about it to take real action, even in Texas, even in small, rural counties in Texas. It IS working that way, and if that is the case, there, in Texas, a most totally "red" painted state, then it is equally true of even the most thoroughly "dumbed down" of average American voters nationwide.

And, right now, in Texas, they're getting ready to use old fashioned paper ballots in the run off election coming up. DeLay, after his bogus "win" in the first Republican primary, did not dare to stay in for the run off, not with real, paper, recountable, certifiable ballots being used. Think about it.
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WestHoustonDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:37 PM
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5. Welcome to DU longabach
I'm not aware of any paper ballots in the runoff election. I early voted today on an e-slate machine.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:21 AM
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7. Jefferson Co. (Beaumont) is going back to paper ballots
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 05:25 AM by PDittie
They're in a dispute with ES&S:

http://votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1149&Itemid=51

But that's not in DeLay's district (Beaumont is in CD-02; incumbent R Poe challenged by Dem Gary Binderim) and as Texas Linda has already pointed out, DeLay was not in a runoff.

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TexasLinda Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:08 PM
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6. DeLay is not in a runoff
He got almost 62% of the vote in his primary, so there's no runoff.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:50 AM
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8. The link references all of the stories about voting problems about ES&S.
But Harris county, which has a good chunk of Tom DeLay's district, votes on the eSlate from Hart Intercivic.

And as for, "the public knew there was NO WAY DELAY HAD WON ANY FAIR PRIMARY," uh, the author of this story doesn't know much bout Texas voters, does he? DeLay kept getting re-elected and re-elected because he brought home the pork over and over again. The fact that DeLay only got 65% in the primary (that low!) was pretty impressive.

And anyway I haven't noticed any heightened awareness of voting problems here in Texas, despite the possible lawsuit from that Republican candidate they're talking about. The public is certainly not burning down the doors demanding paper ballots. Of course I live in a county that still votes on paper on election day, so that probably has a lot to do with that county's temperature about the issue.
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