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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:42 PM
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Bushies Take on Perry
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Bushies Take on Perry


The Texas Tribune notes how Bush family intimates have lined up solidly behind Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) in her primary challenge to Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R).

In fact, even former President H.W. Bush today made "a rare overtly political announcement" in which he endorsed Hutchison.

"What's going on here? It's a question without a definitive answer and a subject that those in-the-know do not want to go anywhere near. Nearly every one of the two dozen sources contacted for this story refused to be quoted by name; several of those who went on the record saved their best material for after they went back off. But everyone with knowledge of the Bushworld-Perryworld divide had a theory."
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:00 PM
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1. Well most of the bushies anyway
G.W. just can't seem to weigh in against Perry. Shouldn't he be right under Cheney? Or did Cheney lose the leash for georgie?

:shrug:

Sonia
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:13 AM
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2. And Hutchison is supposed to be better?
Ok maybe less toll roads which would be nice but other than that is she any better? It sucks a Democrat has no real chance in winning.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:22 AM
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3. "...a Democrat has no real chance in winning"?
Excuse me? Where did you get that idea? Governor Perry barely eked out a win last election cycle with a measly 39% of the vote. Against two opponents who were woefully underfunded. One of them the idiot Kinky Friedman.

This election cycle we have a highly contested republican primary with the two better known candidates Governor 39% and KBH, and you have the added very volatile teaparty factor with Debra Medina. All signs point to a runoff in their primary. A runoff is never good for an incumbent. Perry is barely leading White with 10% now. It makes Goodhair look weak. And better for us, it makes him spend a lot more of his campaign money with party infighting. Things will get ugly and the people get disgusted with both of the runoff candidates.

Meanwhile our likely candidate - Bill White, has plenty of opportunity to take the sane road and look more polished to the rest of the state. It's actually a very good opportunity for us. I'm not saying we're going to coast to victory - I'm just saying it's a hell of a lot better than "no chance of winning".

Check out these prior threads for some more background

Medina could create problems for Perry, Hutchison

Rassmussen: White = 40%, goodhair = 50%

Have a little faith - but work like hell with us come the fall.

:hi:

Sonia
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 06:19 PM
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4. Thanks for the info, I just moved to Texas in October.
All of my wifes family live here and they all think it's a long shot for the dems. But I revise my statement of no chance.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:17 PM
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5. Anything can happen
Look how fast things changed nationally. By the time November comes along, obviously we hope things will look better for us.

I don't know where your wife's family lives in Texas, but I can tell you that things are moving very fast in the urban areas - trending blue. Plus we have an additional 1/2 million people that moved to Texas just last year. No one knows how those voting age people will vote, but of course those of us here hope it's for our Democrats.

Texas is going to turn blue one day - it's inevitable. We're going to be a minority majority state very soon. It's a matter of time. I hope 2010 is the beginning of our taking this state back.

Sonia
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:31 AM
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6. We live in Dallas her family that told me that live in Allen.
They're dems but older so that may make a diff not sure. She also has family in San Antonio and Austin.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:05 AM
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8. The urban areas have pretty much turned blue
Harris is almost totally there. It turned blue and nearly kicked out every R in office last election. Dallas turned blue the cycle before that and Austin is the bluest of blues. We have one lone Republican in one small elected office who will lose her job this November.

Tarrant County (the Worth Worth area) is the next big urban center to turn blue. With a good turnout in all the major urban areas and the border areas (which have always been Democratic strongholds) we will rule. It won't matter what the rural areas vote - the urban areas will decide all statewide races. The day will come - soon.

Welcome to Texas again! I think we did say welcome before - but it never hurts to say welcome again. :hi:

Sonia
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 01:31 PM
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10. Thanks, I'm eager to help turn Texas blue.
Really would like for Austin just to leak out all over.
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douglas9 Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:38 AM
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7. No Love Lost
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:11 AM
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9. Battle for the should of the Texas Republican party
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"This has a lot to do with what happens when you have succeeding governors. They have different teams," said Bush 43 media strategist Mark McKinnon. "Perry is perfectly within his rights to establish his own identity." Bush loyalists see their time in their governor's office as a golden age for bipartisanship — a time when they did right by Texas. Some of them believe Perry crassly squandered that compassionate conservative age by steering his administration and the state's politics farther to the right.

Perry's team sees that view of Bush's leadership as idealized; they blame President Bush for massive electoral losses and the tainting of the GOP brand. Perry, they insist, is the one who's truly led the state. They dismiss Hutchison and her Bushworld backers as "country-club Republicans," the phrase used by Perry campaign consultant Dave Carney in a recent New York Times Sunday Magazine story. The beneficiary of the bad blood is Hutchison, whose closer ties with Bush loyalists who worked in D.C. and more subdued personal style sits better with the family and its friends.

2. It's a moderate-conservative thing.

Most of the ink spilled about the GOP primary paints Perry and Hutchison as avatars in the battle for the soul of the GOP. It's not a bad theory to explain why the Bushies are backing Hutchison. The senator, while conservative by national standards, has been wedged into the "moderate" slot in Texas, with Perry occupying the terrain to her right. It would be natural, then, that Baker, the ultimate noblesse oblige Washington dealmaker, and Bush 41, the eldest of the elder statesmen and the biggest bulb in the Thousand Points of Light, find themselves aligned with the candidate who's offering a return to the days of the big tent.

"I would argue this is more about the electorate and where Texas has gone politically," says Ken Luce, who ran Perry's first campaign for agriculture commissioner.


And then the party crasher Debra Medina, of course will make it a much bloodier battle.

:bounce::bounce::bounce:

Sonia
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retnick Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 08:29 PM
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11. Some background info
Bush and Perry have something of a long-standing bitter relationship if you guys didn't know.
The two never liked each other when Bush was gov and Perry lieutenant gov. They tried to hide it, but to no avail.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 08:54 PM
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12. Welcome to DU!
Yes, it's pretty common knowledge that Bush and Perry don't like each other.
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