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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 10:59 PM
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So, you may have heard that rumor about the Zetas taking over ranches
It's not even remotely true. But what is most interesting are the comments to an article in the local paper, in which Minutemen/Tea Baggers insist that the paper is trying to hide something because the editor is a Mexican, that we don't know what is going on in our own town (por favor, Laredo is filled with chismosas, so if Mines Road was shut down, everyone would know it), and that Minutemen/Tea Baggers aren't racist (despite their repeated claims that Mexican are hiding the news & that the editor should move back to Mexico where she belongs). Anyway, if you want to see the hilarity in the comments section, go here:

http://lmtonline.com/articles/2010/07/26/front/news/doc4c4b6b53d2179200438464.txt

dg
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 11:03 PM
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1. Minuteman spreading the hate - of course
Just a bunch of rumors to drive up the fear and hatred along the border. :grr:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 11:11 PM
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2. Nobody sneezes in Laredo without everyone knowing about it and
talking about it. People in Laredo would know and they obviously know there's nothing to this.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 11:25 PM
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4. but see, we is dumb
never mind the fact that Mines Road is heavily-trafficked & it would be all over everywhere if it was shut down. Oh noes, we's dumb Mexicans down here & needs us some armed red-necks to pertect us.

:eyes:

dg
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 11:12 PM
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3. Officials dispute reports of ranch takeover by Zetas
San Antonio Express 7/26/10
Officials dispute reports of ranch takeover by Zetas
LAREDO — Local law enforcement was bombarded with calls from across the country Saturday asking about a report that the Zetas had taken over two ranches off Mines Road.

But officials with the Laredo Police Department, Webb County Sheriff's Department and Border Patrol said they knew nothing about such an incident, while Erik Vasys, an FBI spokesman in San Antonio, said the agency does not comment on rumors.

“The public would be the first to know if anything was going on,” said Webb County Sheriff Martin Cuellar on Sunday afternoon. “Our deputies went out there and talked to ranch owners in the area and found nothing.”

The report that the Zetas, the Gulf Cartel's former enforcers, had taken over two Laredo ranches appeared to have initially surfaced around 10 a.m. Saturday on the blog Diggers Realm.


This is the same kind of crap that right wing blogger Andrew Breitbart is peddling. Shoot first and research never. Some over zealous blogger thinks he has a hot tip, but it's hot air. He runs with it anyway fanning the flames of hatred. Either way they get their pound of flesh because lame ass media like Fox News and Glenn Beck give it credibility with the tea bagger types. :eyes;
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 11:29 PM
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5. And ain't it funny that the person who started it all, Kimberly Dvorak
played a whore in O'Keefe's ACORN scandal? Of course, NOW she says she's not commenting further until someone goes on the record. God knows who she actually talked to. Someone else said they talked to the mayor, which made me :spray: :rofl: Uh, no. He's too busy tailgating people & gesturing wildly for them to move over, all the while waving an "I'M THE MAYOR" sign at them.

dg
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:52 PM
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9. A whore is right
A lame ass media whore who doesn't give a rat's ass if the information is right or fabricated.

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TEXASYANKEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 11:35 AM
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7. Journalism:
"The report that the Zetas, the Gulf Cartel's former enforcers, had taken over two Laredo ranches appeared to have initially surfaced around 10 a.m. Saturday on the blog Diggers Realm." Looks like the San Antonio Express is practising "journalism." Maybe our lamestream media should follow suit?
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 01:05 PM
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8. That was the reporter doing his job
(btw it looks like the SA paper copied La Empty's article word for word). Everyone I know wanted to know WHO started that rumor, and that's what this reporter found.

dg
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 06:15 AM
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6. "The air dropping of hundreds of live virus carrying pandas"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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white cloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 02:39 PM
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10. Speaking of not so bright Bart.
RNC fundraiser's special guest -- BreitbartMark Murray writes: The liberal Web site Talking Points Memo is reporting that conservative provocateur Andrew Breitbart -- who posted the very misleading excerpt of Shirley Sherrod's address to the NAACP -- is set to participate in an August fundraiser with RNC Chairman Michael Steele.

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele has a party fundraising event coming up in August that is scheduled to feature a very special guest: Conservative media activist Andrew Breitbart, according to a copy of the invitation exclusively obtained by TPM.
>>>>>>>


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/07/26/4755399-rnc-fundraisers-special-guest-breitbart
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 03:00 PM
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11. More right-wing punking machine; they know MSM is virtually kaput...
and that just about anything you want to blow out is as likely to be believed as anything in the dailies or T.V. news. In the latest Texas Monthly, there are reports that the Zetas (and others) are engaged in scorched-earth policies -- on the MEXICAN SIDE of the border. In a modern-day version of "regulating," Mexican ranchers, villagers, farmers are being warned to vacate the land or face -- well, you can figure that out. All this to create a free-fire for smuggling operations.

This side of the border? Crime rates are low and going lower.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 04:42 PM
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12. Police Dismiss Blogger's 'Proof' That Drug Cartel Invaded Texas
Talking Points Memo 8/13/10
Police Dismiss Blogger's 'Proof' That Drug Cartel Invaded Texas

Kim Dvorak, a conservative reporter in San Diego, has published a police message that she claims is evidence that a Mexican drug cartel really did invade the country in July and take control of two remote ranches near Laredo, Texas. And while local law enforcement says the message proves nothing, Dvorak's latest report does provide clues to how the whole story came to life in the first place.

Dvorak was one of the two bloggers who originally reported the story, which was denied by law enforcement, and then debunked. But Dvorak always stood by the story, and pledged to return with proof.

(snip)
"Basically everyone was shrugging their shoulders," Joe Baeza, an investigator and public affairs officer with the Laredo Police Department, told TPM at the time. "There was no proof or evidence that was found."


:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 05:40 PM
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13. That backs up what my source told m
the SWAT team was mobilized, but then ordered to stand down. No arrests, no bodies, no Zetas, just 2 ranchers have a heated discussion.

dg
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 09:53 PM
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14. "She's trying to save herself from criticism of going too far off a branch."
"She's trying to save herself from criticism of going too far off a branch. I don't care, I really don't care."


Boy did she really go way off that branch. In fact she's fallen flat on her face and still doesn't see the ground.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-10 10:06 PM
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15. zetas are cowards
they are only brave in Mexico because Mexico has a gun ban so normal people can't defend themselves.

In texas there are more guns than people, if the zetas come across the border they might get shot by any citizen, so those cowards will stay in Mexico where they are the big fish, but in Texas they wouldn't be the only ones with guns.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 06:23 AM
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16. Oh, really?
Edited on Wed Sep-22-10 06:23 AM by hobbit709
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 12:04 PM
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17. Yeah, they're poons
I could see them invading a ranch if they outnumber the ranchers 50:1

Doing atrocious things to a persons body when they are tied up and helpless isn't bravery.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 08:21 PM
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18. actually, they don't cause shit here because they know the US will drop the hammer on them
has nothing to do with gun laws.

dg
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 09:18 PM
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19. Has everything to do with gun laws
Juarez is supposed to be under control of the Mexican Feds, yet the drug lords still control the city. The best armed people in Juarez are drug lords. Juarez has a gun ban and a murder rate of about 120 per 100,000. In el paso the best armed people are the law abiding and there are almost no restrictions on gun ownership and the lowest murder rate in the US at 2.12 per 100,000 while we have more guns than people in el paso. The populations of el paso and Juarez are similar and highly mixing.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:07 PM
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20. Keep deluding yourself
the cartels don't stir up shit in the US because they know the US can & will open up a can of whoop-ass. Has nothing to do with the number of guns & gun owners in El Paso.

dg
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-10 10:46 PM
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21. Cant even handle afganistan
And we arent in a position to defend an attack from the south
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 07:47 AM
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22. Exactly who can't handle Afghanistan? Hope you're not laying this completely...
Edited on Thu Sep-23-10 07:53 AM by kjackson227
at Obama's feet because as I'm sure you know, he and his commanders are in HEATED and CONTENTIOUS debate over strategy of Afghanistan as we speak. Obama wants an exit strategy and has even written out one himself because he's not getting ANY assistance from his commanders who most likely wants another troop enhancement. What strategy would YOU like to see carried out? Also, the only person that I've heard speaking about border violence is Slick Rick "Dictator" Perry, and I hope you're not taking his dishonest word for it. If you have more information, or have articles to the contrary then I'd like to see them.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-10 02:04 PM
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23. because a modern military is good at
Killing large concentrations of people indiscriminately, a well armed force of law abiding citizens is the best way to keep El Paso from being more like Juarez, Mexico where the unarmed civilians are helpless victims.
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:49 AM
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24. Soo...
is cartel violence leaking over into Texas where you live, or not? I ask this question because I would think that everyone would be concerned with the safety of ourselves and each other. Personally, I NEVER hear any mention in the news regarding cartel violence in other Texas cities.
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timo Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 05:02 PM
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25. hmmm
do you count the drug dealers killing each other as cartel violence since they are a part of the cartel, network and work for and with the cartels, at the beginning of this summer we had a running gun battle that ended up with drug dealer crashing into a van killing a local teacher..does that count? plus countless drug related gang killings and drive bys and all that kinda fun stuff.
Recently the zetas and ms-13 have joined forces so now anything that ms-13 does could be considered cartel violence spill over.....
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