What the Hell is going on with Kohl.

He's with the repugs on bankruptcy and he was behind them on the last one too,but I can't remember what that was.Memory isn't what is was. Anyways, Kohl needs to realize that if we wanted a repug we'll elect one.

Let him know.

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/?id=628&lvl=C&chamber=S

Send him a letter and make a call.

And probably against Thompson. This won't help him. He is pissing off his base.

think about it for a second.

He may be pissing us off but, in the end, what are we going to do?

Vote for Thompson?

I don't think any of us are going to get pissed off enough to do that. He has Republican votes to gain and no Democratic votes to lose in this type of behavior.

The only way we can bring him back is if we get a VIABLE opponent to run against him in the primaries.

:shurg:

He has always been a half step behind being a DINO and I think he just took that step. All I can think of he is voting with his pocket book in mind. Kohl's Department Store issues credit cards and every year loses money from bankruptcy. So unless he explains otherwise, I am going to really have to pinch my nose in 06'. I'll still take DINO-lite Kohl over Tommy!!

But Tommy would beat him. He may be a DINO half the time... but GOPers would never cross over to vote for him, as they do for Feingold.

Over and over again I have presented evidence to refute your claims of "no crossover voting" and still you continue to propagate this claim.

Why don't you stop crying "the sky is falling" over Sen. Kohl and start offering some solutions. If Kohl isn't the guy to beat TT, then who is in your opinion?

Besides, TT is too chicken to run against Herb Kohl, DINO or not. Most likely he's done what you haven't - looked at the voter turnout in Kohl's last two elections and compared it to his.

The day TT agrees to take on Kohl is the day I'm buying you a beer, rodeo.

Tommy beats kohl EASILY, and you know it. There ARE no solutions, as Kohl is a lousy candidate, any way you slice it. Feingold is a GREAT candidate. He would have had a much tougher time with Feingold. TT will be back, and you also know it, and are scared. I thought he would run for Governor again... but it looks like his brother is going to run again, so you can scratch that.

There seems to be nothing we can say to calm you down. You don't want to hear it. You won't even acknowledge the facts present in past elections that are contrary to the majority of your assertions. To date, you've just been a broken record - "Tommy's gonna run and Kohl's gonna lose."

So how about some constructive contributions to the Wisconsin Forum? Regardless of who runs against him, how do we prevent your supposed nightmare from happening? What are you going to do? What do you want to see Herb Kohl doing?

I can assure you that coming to the Wisconsin Forum on DEMOCRATIC Underground and running down a strong Dem senator isn't the way to mobilize the grassroots. And truthfully, I know a couple of Dems here, including me, who are beginning to wonder if suppression of support isn't the true goal of these "the sky is falling" type of posts.

Kohl and two brothers helped expand the family's single grocery into a multimillion-dollar chain of more than 100 grocery and department stores and pharmacies by 1972. Kohl served as the company's president from 1970 to 1978, when the Kohls decided to sell their entire stake in the business to British American Tobacco Industries. BAT, which also owned department store chains Saks Fifth Ave. (SKS: down $0.25 to $13.70, Research, Estimates) and now defunct Gimbels, had acquired an 80 percent stake in the privately-held Kohl's Corp. the previous year.

http://money.cnn.com/2002/03/13/news/companies/marchmadness_kohls/


Of course, he shouldn't support the bankrupcy bill.

a couple of years ago? I seem to remember something about labor exploitation or sweatshops? Now, I can't recall any of it--I am getting old! Can't remember what I'm rallying for or against anymore-LOL.

National Journal ranked him more liberal than Feingold, and our duo is among the most liberal duos in the Senate... Behind Hawaii and somebody else (California maybe?). Massachusetts didn't make the list because kerry didn't vote enough to be ranked, but they would have been more liberal...


Tommy is not running for Senate. He will be begged, but he won't do it. Kohl's money will blast any potential challenger out of the water in the cheap WI media markets.

I saw a this website on the news in California, apparently some Feingold intern has started up this site: www.russforpresident.com. Pretty nice site. He definitely has something here.

Kohl's money won't mean DIDLY SQUAT in this race, because Tommy can, unfortunatly, raise as much, plus Kohl is a LOUSY campaigner, is pissing off his base, and it not the popularity king that Feingold is. We must face facts about this. No other Republican could beat Kohl. Word is that TT is ALREADY miserable without any elective position, and the GOP is already negotiating with him to run.

The Dems would be sure to use his "hidden" women, wouldn't they? I would think the days of the wink and nod to this kind of thing are over in the new "moral values" era. TT isn't going to get the kind of Christain Right votes that Bush got in WI if the stories about his constant adultery make it to the mainstream media (and I think Kohl has the money to get it there).
I'm no fan of Kohl, but I don't know who else we have. Although I think (hope) we're getting closer to the day when Tammy could win.

If we were stupid enough to open up on TT and women, we know for SURE, that the GOP would out Kohl as being a homosexual. They have stories ready to go about Kohl and "young men." Anyway, Thompson and chicks are OLD NEWS, and everybody knows about it. Everybody knows he doesn't live with his wife, and I have talked to Christian Right types, and even THEY give him a pass. The MSM won't print it, as they would forced to out Kohl, as well. The election is about 2 years off, so it is really not that soon. Mel Martinez went directly from the Cabinet, with no break, to become Senator from Florida.

Even if the GOP did have proof that Kohl is "a homosexual", they'd have to out their state and federal legislators as well. The "old story" is the one about Kohl being gay and since the GOP didn't use it when Kohl was holding hands with Kerry through the state in fall, it's unlikely that they have anything that even resembles proof.
Besides, I would think that even the Right could figure out the difference between abandoning your wife when she has breast cancer to sleep with other women vs. a single, gay senator engaging in relationships.

Everyone knows that Kohl is gay, that's why it is INSANE to try to out TT's womanizing, that everyone knows about. Kohl is a CLOSETED gay, and any outing of him would be devastating. You don't think TT and the GOP would play hardball? Say what you want about him, Thompson, though nasty, is a survivor, and would play REALLY rough, if we engaged in those tactics.

If everyone knows that Kohl is gay, how could anyone out him?

Kohl is not PUBLICLY gay, just as TT is not PUBLICLY a womanizer. It doesn't mean that people don't know. Don't even try sleeze tactics, as the GOP would hit back with just as bad.

the Milwaukee gay community and could be the basis of GOP rumor and disinfo. I knew a gay musician that was dating Sid circa 1967.

I don't think the GOP would have much to do with the Milwaukee gay community. That said, I have heard well-connected DEMS say that Senator Kohl is gay. True or not, we had better not get into dirt about TT, because we KNOW they would use the gay stuff about Kohl.

Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it, I didn't think it (sexuality) was a big deal then nor do I think it is a big deal now except in politics.