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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:07 PM
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NBC loves it's Canadian commentators at the Olympics
My gawd....where would they be without them?

Figure Skating - Sandra Bezic, Tracey Wilson, Jamie Sale & David Pelletier

Downhill/Slalom/Moguls skiing - Todd Brooker, Steve Podborski

Men's Hockey (which we haven't seen yet, but soon will) - John Davidson, Pierre McGuire


Who else am I missing?

p.s. and notice how they are never identified as Canadian, either!
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imouttahere Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 10:16 PM
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1. IF they told the audience they were Canadian....
they'd probably get a butt load of complaints. Besides, hockey fans probably wouldn't believe that John Davidson is Canadian, he's been working for the Rangers for so long.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 04:29 AM
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2. He's Canadian? Wow!
That's incredible!
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 08:11 AM
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3. I wonder how many of the red necks heads would explode
if they know David Pelletier is French-canadian, mouahahahaha! :rofl:
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Monkeybumper Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 08:34 AM
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4. A better question
why do all these Canadians prefer to work for an American Network rather then for the government controlled CBC ?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:34 AM
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5. Maybe because the CBC wouldn't hire them and the US has lower
media standards so they were hired by them instead. We know the US media cares little about reporting and a great deal about hyping.
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Monkeybumper Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 10:01 AM
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6. That is the best spin I have seen for sometime
You do not really believe that do you ? Look at the slobs the CBC has and tell me they would not have done anything to get anyone from this group ? Fact is this group of Canadians went were the money is America.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:16 PM
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8. The CBC has "slobs" working for it?
Many of the American DUers have said they like to get their news on CBC or BBC because it is more reliable and better reporting than they get from the corporate controlled news reporting on U.S.A networks. I will admit that some of our people do go down there for the big bucks, but they often come back home again too when disillusioned.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:53 PM
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26. "Many American DUers have said they like to get their news on CBC or BBC"
Yup, I'm one of them. I even have done threads about CBC several times. They are so much better than anything we have in the states when it comes to journalism.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=328091
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imouttahere Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 04:27 PM
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28. I'd like to know who the slobs are!
Ron McLean, Chris Cuthbert, Brian Williams, et al, are certainly the equal of ANY American broadcaster.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:31 PM
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10. LOL, slobs??? Take a look at the slobs on CNN, CTV, NBC and
on and on. I would take any of those on CBC over the presstitutes on the other networks. I am not surprised at your position at all, given your political persuasion but I would have hoped your argument would have been better presented, alas, was not to be so, lol.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:11 PM
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7. Actually the government does not "control" the CBC
The network was set up in order to cover all corners of our country which is huge in size and the population is very spread out. The government does NOT tell the cbc what to report etc. We have the CRTC to regulate broadcasting, just as the U.S.A has the FCC.....
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:27 PM
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9. Actually Bezic and Tracy Wilson work for Canadian TV also....I guess
they must be really raking in the money!.....Also you are wrong about the CBC being controlled by the government. Our networks are ruled by the CRTC which is the counterpart of the FCC in America.
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Monkeybumper Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:19 PM
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12. Where do I start ?
How can any rational person say the CBC is not run by the government ? When you rely on government funding for your very existence , you are run by the government.
When I say government , I do not mean the government of the day but the bureaucrats which in many cases are patronage appointments or cronies of past governments.
As long as the CBC needs my tax dollars to function and those moneys are collected by the government the CBC is run by the government If you require me to pay the bills to run your house hold , rent phone , heat , hydro I am the one who is going to run your house its that simple.

As far as the comment of...... giving my political persuasion , as I have said I am an independent and I do not walk in lock step with any party and I think I am the best person to decide what to do with my money and consider Education Employment and the Environment the key areas government should be working in .

95% of Canadians go to work for or move to the US when they achieve some measure of success because thats where the money is and occasionally for a better climate. If I have to see one more TV commercial with Gretzky telling me what a great country Canada is or what a good Canadian would do while he has lived in the US for the best part of 2 decades i think i will puke .

To the point that many on the American DU side say they listen to the CBC or BBc rather then there media outlets that is strictly for the extreme left wing bias of both of these broadcasters or do you think it is for the 1970s production values of these bloated government run agency's ?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:26 PM
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13. LOL, do you know how many Americans are working in Canada,
have been successful in Canada, much prefer Canada? Using Gretzky as an example is ludicrous, imo. How many Canadians that have worked in the US for a time have come back due to the lack of health care, working conditions, etc?

You present a very narrow argument without providing factual data to back up your supposition, I can't help but wonder why?

As to CBC, seeing as you despise that media outlet, may I ask which network, news organization you DO trust and feel is excellent in it's objectivity?
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Monkeybumper Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:14 PM
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15. According to work permit.com
18 Canadians move to the states for every American that comes this way .
I get my news from many many outlets newspapers the net radio etc but I always look to non government funded media rather then Pravda type outlets for obvious reasons .

Spaz I have explained why I am home and able to waste time on here but I notice you are on here morning afternoon and nites do you work for a living or are you on government assistance ?
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:21 PM
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16. I'm sure the people who run this forum will be thrilled to hear you feel
you are wasting your time here. I can't imagine why you are spending your time with work permit.com unless you are planning a move yourself. One can only hope.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:23 PM
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17. Oh my, typical redneck assumptions on your part, surprise, surprise
I am retired, was fortunate enough to retire at a relatively young age and am not dependent on the government at all, sorry to disappoint you.

I could be a redneck and whine about my tax rate given my financial comfort but, unlike some, I have no problem paying the taxes I do in order to have good health care, help those less fortunate than I, you know the ones I mean, the ones who have to depend on government assistance due to hardships in their lives.

Just a note, if you feel you are WASTING your time while on DU, don't you think you should try not to waste it so much? I feel it is very educational and interesting to read and debate here so do not feel it is a waste of my time at all.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:28 PM
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18. Well said.....I remember this guy before the election beating the drum for
Harper on this forum.....
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 02:31 PM
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19. Yep, independent just like O'Lielly is 'independent', lol!
I do love how the 'independent'is used as a means of avoiding admitting one's actual political beliefs. One might even say it smacks of being a 'chicken', rofl.
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Monkeybumper Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 04:13 PM
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20. I don't make assumptions
I also don't label people that are sick of paying 50% of their income to taxes as rednecks.
I am glad you were able to retire early as I hope to do the same .

I do worry if the government continues to penalize the successful in our country to the degree they are now , who will pay for the many retirees that will come after you .

Just so you understand what I mean by wasting time , I am home looking after my wife after she donated half her liver to a friend that was dying .

I agree there is value on debating on here but I am not use to having this kind of free time.

Just wondering Spaz did you retire from a government job or did you retire from a union job ?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 04:30 PM
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21. ROFL, you don't seem to know the definition of 'assumptions' given
your question in this post which only furthers a redneck assumption so, for your edification, let me post the definition for your future reference:

assumption (n.) The act of taking for granted: assumption of a false theory.

Seeing as your question ASSUMES I must have had either a government job or a union job as opposed to have been in the private sector, which happens to be the field from which I retired, you are, yet again, ASSUMING anyone who leans left must be either government or union connected.

By all means, keep trying to label me but I must warn you, you are only revealing your biases through your questions and assumptions.

I am successful yet do not feel terribly overtaxed given I have been very fortunate in my life and when one has been fortunate, there is, I believe, a responsibility to help those who are less fortunate when one is able. Others think differently, there are those who think "I am okay, to hell with anyone else." To each their own, I guess.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 04:39 PM
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22. I would be curious to know what progressive, left-leaning causes...
....institutions, etc., you actually support. Seems to me like you're a fish out of water amongst the rest of us Pravda-reading, union-humping, tax-and-spendsmiths. I like the word "independent" too. Nice little word to hide behind, isn't it? It's what ideologues use who don't have the courage of their convictions. Of course I'm a liberal, of course their are others on this forum who are left of me, and support the New Democrats.

What are you? And don't say "independent", it's a cop out and you know it.

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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 04:54 PM
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23. Bill O'Reilly also calls himself "independent" and we all know how
independent he is!
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Monkeybumper Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 07:49 AM
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30. Who am I ?
Edited on Tue Feb-21-06 07:52 AM by Monkeybumper
Once again I will say I am an independent, but I will give you a little of my background .
I am a small business owner.
I am a member of Ducks Unlimited.
I am a Big Brother
I am a regular contributor to our local food bank
I am a member of CFIB ( Canadian Federation of Independent Business )
I am not a member of any political party
I have worked on only one political campaign ( provincial Liberal )
I am a ex professional athlete (short career broke a rib that punctured a Kidney causing loss of both)
I am not a member of any church but I do donate to the Salvation Army ,I think they do the most good with a buck.

Sorry it took so long to respond to your question but I flew down to Florida for the weekend to catch the Daytona 500

OK chimpy what would you like to label me as ?


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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:51 PM
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31. Sanctimonius?
Edited on Tue Feb-21-06 02:53 PM by Chimpys_Last_Stand
Ya see, I don't necessarily feel the need to try and disarm others during a debate by rhyming off all my good works. Seems a little self-serving to me. I never asked you any of that, just simply where you lean politically. If you do those things, good for you, honestly. But it's not what I was asking.

:shrug:
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Monkeybumper Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:26 PM
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32. You asked what makes an independent
I told you
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 04:29 PM
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33. Right of centre....independent.
Just spit it out.
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imouttahere Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 04:30 PM
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29. Right on, Spazito! They all go back to Canada, anyway...
Ray Ferraro is one example of someone who worked for ESPN and has gone back to work Edmonton Oilers games. John Davidson often works for HNIC during the playoffs and is on Satellite Hot Stove every week.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 01:55 PM
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14. I WISH the CBC did have a left wing bias....instead they are VERY fair
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 02:07 PM by glarius
and professional. During the last election I was hoping they would take up the cause of the Liberals to balance the very obvious bias towards the Conservatives of CTV....Especially Mike Duffy's reporting. If the CBC is government controlled, they are not doing a very good job for their masters. The CBC has been responsible, due to their investigative reporting, for at least a couple of government ministers having to resign through the years.
You say "As long as the CBC needs my tax dollars to function and those moneys are collected by the government the CBC is run by the government If you require me to pay the bills to run your house hold , rent phone , heat , hydro I am the one who is going to run your house its that simple."....That's about on the same level as the right wingers in the U.S.A who say that the government picks our doctors and decides what operations we can have because they pay the bills. We here in Canada know, of course that is not true. The government pays the bills period.
P.S....I remember you during the recent election taking up Harper's cause on this forum...I'd say you are about as fair and balanced as say.....Bill O'Reilly.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:13 PM
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24. Why
Should the government be involved in education? You are asking for my money to teach children so that companies will have competent people. So why do you support government funding for education that comes out of my pocket.

Why should the government be involved in the environment? They are spending my money. If it was left to private enterprise then the one who owns the water in the river would see to it that it wasn't polluted.

And the same goes for the police. I can protect myself, so why do do I have to pay to protect other people, perhaps like you?

Maybe you could answer some of these questions?
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imouttahere Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 04:25 PM
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27. There are only so many announcing positions, for one thing.....
Also, who is more likely to be a better expert on hockey or curling? Also, guys like Ray Ferraro, John Davidson and Pierre Maguire already work for Canadian networks (Davidson for the CBC).
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:28 PM
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The fact that you had to mention...
..that CBC is "government controlled" tells me that you have an agenda.

Besides, some would argue that it isn't "controlled" by the government.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 12:28 PM
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34. The fact that you had to mention...
..that CBC is "government controlled" tells me that you have an agenda.

Besides, some would argue that it isn't "controlled" by the government.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:08 PM
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35. Actually the government does not "control" the CBC.
It's like the health care situation in Canada. The government pays the bills...period....Both the CBC and our health care system are run by themselves without government interference.
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LeftistGorilla Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 12:52 PM
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11. It because...
They can actually speak english....
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:39 PM
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25. Let's not forget Bill Clement and Ray Ferraro....
...anchoring the U.S.A./Slovakia men's hockey game, back in the studio.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!!
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