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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 01:43 PM
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Cdn Univ Prof's open letter urges NDP & left-leaning Libs form coalition
Edited on Wed Mar-01-06 02:28 PM by JohnyCanuck
He says it's the surest way to stop the Harper Conservatives from implementing deep integration plans already signed onto by the Martin government. He also feels a coalition (and possibly merger later on) of left-leaning Libs and the NDP could force a withdrawal from NAFTA and similar trade agreements which do not protect our rights to access and control our own energy resources. He predicts if this plan could come to fruition, the conservative-Liberals would bail from this Liberal/NDP coalition and join the Harperites in the Conservatives as Emerson just did.

To me it makes sense (I voted NDP in the election) but I am sure there'll be lots who have issues with his proposal, so I'll be interested in getting feedback and seeing what others think about it and any other alternatives that might be proposed.

Note that there are two links below. The embedded link is to an article Professor Ryan previously wrote about the election results, and then the link at the bottom of the quoted excerpt is a link to the balance of the open letter urging the coalition between left-leaning Libs and the NDP.


An Open Letter to the NDP and Liberal MPs
Canada and the American Empire

By JOHN RYAN


As a long time supporter of progressive political policies in Canada I was perplexed and dismayed by the results of our recent federal election. My consternation led me to write the article that is attached to this letter. The essence of my analysis is summed up in the opening comments:

The 2006 federal election has set the stage for a possible dismantling of Canada's distinctive social and economic fabric. The newly evolved Conservative Party, in many respects a chilling echo of the USA's Republican Party, is poised for a two-stage attack to reshape Canada in line with its Canadian version of America's neoconservative ideology.

The purpose of this letter is to urge the NDP and the Liberals to begin the process of forming a coalition and, if this turns out favourably, to consider the prospect, under the right conditions, of eventually merging the two parties into a centre-left Liberal Democratic Party.

For years the minority of Canadians on the political right languished in the wilderness because of a split in their political movement. However, after a series of misadventures, they finally coalesced into a single party--albeit with some alienation and disaffection in their ranks. Basically, their strategy worked--and although they received only 36 percent of the vote, they now form the government.

SNIP

At present Canada has a dysfunctional political system in which the views of the majority of Canadians cannot be represented by a single political party. Although almost two-thirds of Canada's voters opposed the policies and platform of the Conservative party, it is the Conservatives who have formed the government. The majority vote was split amongst three parties, thereby thwarting the predominant will of the people and making a mockery of democracy. And this may very well continue into the future, especially if the Conservatives get a stronger foothold in Quebec. Furthermore, if the NDP should get progressively stronger, it will guarantee a split vote, and we may have an unending series of Conservative governments--until there's nothing left of Canada except a northern tier of quasi-American states.

Open letter continues at:
http://www.counterpunch.org/ryan03012006.html
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:26 PM
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1. No, no, no!
Under absolutely no circumstances must we revert to a two-party system, or we'll end up with two virtually indistinguishable parties sharing power for ever, just like in the United States. It's bad enough that Canada sat back during the Alliance's hostile takeover of the federal Progressive Conservative party, robbing us of that nuance. We can't do something like that again.
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SixStrings Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 03:32 PM
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2. Jesus...

"He says it's the surest way to stop the Harper Conservatives from implementing deep integration plans already signed onto by the Martin government."

So let me get this straight...NDP and Liberals should form a Left leaning coalition to combat 'deep integration plans' already foisted on us by a leftist party?

And you people are buying this?

Wake me when it's over.

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 04:19 PM
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3. Yes but he figures it would be only lefty type Liberals with the NDP.

According to his theory the Martinite (conservative, pro-corporate type) Libs would bail out to the Conservatives once they saw which way the wind was blowing. The Liberals, as in the previous gov't, were not a party of the left. The Martinite faction were ruling the roost and taking the party to the right.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 08:03 PM
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4. Such a party already exists. It's called the NDP
and left-leaning Libs are welcome to join, as far as I'm aware.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 09:01 PM
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5. Needless to say...
I'm pleased to see Prof. Ryan raise the matter for debate, and I basically agree with his case. I think that the debate about the need to unite the centre-left is just starting.

- B
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V. Kid Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:06 AM
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6. If there were left leaning Liberal MP's...
...one would thought they would've been appauled by the actions of Paul Martin, completely condoned by Jean Chretien. After all they fought against NAFTA, the GST, and cutting of goverment programmes in opposition, and then proceded to continue Brian Mulroney's agenda. I think there'd have to be a pretty extensive fact finding mission to find these left leaning Liberal MP's.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 11:13 AM
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7. Sure some funny postings today...
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 11:15 AM by MrPrax
Here's another one...

This so-called academic is really damn sure that this 'single' election result is --um-- some watershed event that pits Canada vs. the American Empire.

The thing that is fucking all this up isn't the 'inability' of federal liberals and NDP to co-operate (yeah right), nor is it the blindness of Progressives that can't see the Real Threat© (not that sop again...anyone for a another Third Way!)...but the BQ!!.

The Liberals wouldn't have a problem with either 1) Harper or 2) a handful of NDP urban ridings IF they didn't have a huge corruption scandal in Quebec.

Why don't the Liberals do something simplier like rebuild their Quebec coalition? :shrugs:

But then again I am not retired academic from the University of Winnipeg and so I am not capable of seeing the ebbs and flows of the historical dialetics in all this :eyes:


OH I am a big supporter and reader of CP, but I have done something I have never done...wrote a Letter to the Editor about this article and have asked that they try to 'balance' the article.
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V. Kid Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:17 PM
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8. Couldn't he have made his point quicker, I for one don't have time...
...to wade through all of that.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 06:08 PM
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9. I didn't think it was that long.
In an effort to convince the reader of the importance of forming this proposed coalition of his, Ryan does broaden the discussion to include the detrimental effects that NAFTA has had and will continue to have on our economy, especially in regards to the security of our future energy supply, and he also discusses the likely negative consequences of continuing down the deep integration road if the Conservatives and Martinite Liberal types are not stopped before it is too late.

In light of the importance of the topic and the likely consequences that will result if the right wing, neo-con agenda in Canada is allowed to proceed without an effective opposition, I didn't find it that long a piece or that difficult to get through.


........An objective accounting shows that the promised benefits of the FTA and NAFTA were never realized.

But it's in the energy sector that the FTA/NAFTA chickens have really come home to roost. As I pointed out in my article:

With the Free Trade Agreement and later NAFTA we're locked into exporting 70 percent of our oil and 56 percent of our natural gas, and with the proportionality provision, the amount of our exports can only go higher--in perpetuity. Our reserves are quickly depleting and because of NAFTA we have absolutely no control of our own resources. This is insanity. To defend Canada's interests, our federal government should renegotiate NAFTA to eliminate the proportionality clause (Mexico never agreed to this), and if the US should refuse, we should give the required six months notice and abrogate NAFTA, since the US ignores its rulings anyway. This would once again give us control of our energy resources and our economy as well.

SNIP

A further crucial issue that must be part of a coalition platform is the matter of "deep integration" with the USA. Although not known to most Canadians, the previous Martin government, without consent from Parliament, and probably with only the briefest of obfuscating mention to the Liberal caucus, has already signed a statement of intent in a trilateral agreement with the USA and Mexico to supercede NAFTA with what has been called by its proponents a "deep integration" policy with the USA. Without any fanfare, the first stage of the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" was signed by President Bush, President Fox, and Prime Minister Martin on March 23, 2005 in Waco, Texas. The second stage, with work-plans on its further implementation, was signed in Ottawa on June 27, 2005 on behalf of Canada by Deputy Prime Minister Anne McLellan and Industry Minister David Emerson. Its full implementation would apparently take effect after signing further agreements in 2006 and 2007, so this is now in the hands of the Harper government. It appears that if these further agreements are not signed, this calculated endeavour to change the very nature of Canada, without any public disclosure or debate, would die as unfinished business. To make sure that this happens, the issue of "deep integration" must be in the platform of a Liberal-NDP coalition.

SNIP

When it comes to defence and military matters, there is no mention of Canada's traditional role of peacekeeping. Instead we would be expected to make massive new investments in the military to ensure the "interoperability of Canadian and United States armed forces on land, at sea and in the air." Clearly this means that defence and foreign policy would be blended to meet America's expectations, so that we would be ready and willing to be a part of any future "coalition of the willing." This has ominous implications for Canada considering that the US has now adopted a "first strike" position (even with nuclear weapons) and reserves the right to attack any country it sees as being hostile, regardless of UN Security Council decisions.




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