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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 12:53 PM
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Harper on a leash, Coalition is dead.
And the news is all about Ignatieff, not the budget.

Not bad for one morning's work.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:30 PM
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1. leash, my ass
Edited on Wed Jan-28-09 01:33 PM by RedSock
Shorter Ignatieff: "This budget is unacceptable. I said certain things had to be included -- they were essential -- and they are not. It's very bad. ... Well, it's bad. ... Hey, this budget is not very good. ... Aw, what the hell, I can live with it. Carry on, Stevie."


Ignatieff showed himself to be nothing more than Dion Jr. -- talk tough, criticize Harper, then let him have more time to govern. It's disgusting.

This is an email I sent to Ignatieff's office today:

Mr. Ignatieff:

I am a resident of Ontario and a supporter of the coalition.

Today, you called Stephen Harper "reckless, arrogant and short-sighted". You outlined roughly eight aspects of the budget that utterly fail Canadians and utterly fail the test what you wanted to see in the budget. Yet you then told the press that none of your proposed amendments will address these essential issues that you find so intolerable.

Instead, you proposed that Mr. Harper give periodic reports on how he is doing on these budget promises -- promises that you said throughout your press conference are basically bullshit. You contradicted yourself from one sentence to the next.

In about 10 days, Mr. Harper will have been Prime Minister for three years. And yet you want to give him MORE TIME to see if he can govern correctly? Canadians cannot wait any longer.

It is time for you to LEAD. You talked a bit tougher than Mr. Dion would have, but your talk is empty. You showed yourself to be as spineless as Mr. Dion. And a majority of Canadians -- as evidenced by the coalition -- are sick to dead of the Liberal Party acting as a crutch for Mr. Harper's failed policies.

redsock
Mississauga, ON


EDIT: Plus when he finishes a sentence, he often forces a disgusting smile through that reminds me a lot of Bush.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 01:39 PM
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2. Tsk, tsk. Sour grapes.
Layton withdrew from the Coalition. And took himself out of the running permanently.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 03:22 PM
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3. once ignatieff formed his own coaliton with harper ...
the older one was dead. not much to walk away from.


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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 03:32 PM
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4. Could have been.
But Jack has always been a hothead.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:26 PM
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5. Yep
Great. If your objective is headlines.

By the way. How is the party funding going?

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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 08:43 PM
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6. Well, if you're talking to me
I have no idea, not being a member of any party.

How do you like Harper in for 4 more years?
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:39 PM
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7. Yes
I was talking to you.

Don't like it one bit. Maybe you should become engaged?
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:51 PM
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8. Been engaged all my life.
I've done my turn.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:08 PM
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10. So
Perhaps you have an idea of how the funding is going?

One has to wonder that if in your retirement your objective is to turn people against the Liberals?
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:30 PM
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11. Sorry, no.
I've spent my life in politics. I have no connection to it anymore, I merely observe.

I have no interest whatever in turning people against the Liberals. I am neither NDP nor Conservative.

I made a comment that Ignatieff had done a good morning's work politically, and that Layton had taken himself out of the running.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 09:59 PM
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9. I am so SICK of the games the Opposition plays....
Empty threats followed by backing down followed by recriminations by the NDP followed by more empty threats.

I want an Opposition with actual backbone, so far, no go.

The news is not all about Ignatieff except to say harper won by Ignatieff's ridiculous give.

Geez, what I would give for a Liberal leader who would follow through instead of this crap.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 10:32 PM
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12. Well, we just had an election.
And you can see the result.

Is there any point in having another one so soon?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:01 PM
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13. There would have been no need for an election had the coalition...
remained intact and retained a backbone. The cons screwed up, are a minority government whereby they risk falling at any time. It is time, imo.
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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-09 11:13 PM
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14. You are assuming the GG
would have gone for a coalition rather than an election.

I have no such faith in her.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:02 PM
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15. Ignatieff a disappointment
Can you imagine the media abuse that Dion would have taken if he had foolishly announced he was putting the government "on probation."?

Anyway, by the fall Iggy will be co-owner of the recession, and the failed stimulus package, and Harper will have dusted himself off and be in full attack mode.

This was a very bad decision by Ignatieff. He could be PM today, instead he is an opposition leader who has eliminated his own ability, and that of hist party, to oppose Harper.

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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 05:20 PM
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16. He's a disappointment alright.
But then so are the rest of them. None of them appear to have any idea what they're doing.

Ignatieff simply avoided a possible election, and killed the unpopular Coalition and the media is praising him.

Layton has apparently gone berserk with attack ads, and they won't get him anywhere.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:47 PM
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17. Boo!
This is not what I was looking forward to.
On the plus side, the public sees Harper as acting for strict political gain only.
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