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Very_Boring_Name

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Mon May-02-11 10:17 PM
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Heh the most ironic part of all this

Is that the NDP now has even less power than they did before.

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Arrowhead2k1

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Mon May-02-11 10:19 PM
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1. Seriously.

Edited on Mon May-02-11 10:19 PM by Arrowhead2k1

This is a Bitter sweet victory for the NDP. With a capital B on Bitter.

Harper has a strong majority now. Nobody is going to give a fuck about what the opposition says anymore for a very long 4 years.

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snagglepuss

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Mon May-02-11 10:22 PM
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2. Exactly. A Harper majority will be disasterous. How can Canadians be so fucking stupid.

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Ken Burch

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Mon May-02-11 11:07 PM
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6. We all know the Liberlals could never have won this, no matter what the NDP did.

Why should the NDP have acted as if the Liberals were simply ENTITLED to be THE anti-Tory party?

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Darth_Kitten

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Tue May-03-11 06:27 AM
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9. Trust me, they can be.

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achtung_circus

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Tue May-03-11 11:50 AM
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10. Why not blame the Libs

Edited on Tue May-03-11 11:50 AM by achtung_circus

for having a shitty leader and campaign and ideas?

on edit:

This train of thought is also shitty deflection.

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craigmatic

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Mon May-02-11 10:28 PM
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3. Not to mention that they have to balance such a diverse coalition.

They could very well implode within the next 4 years but then again the tories may overplay their hand too. It's gong to be an interesting next 4 years.

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CHIMO

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Mon May-02-11 10:37 PM
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4. You

Are an optimist if you think this will last four years.

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craigmatic

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Mon May-02-11 10:54 PM
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5. Well I figure that Canadians will have had just about enough of Harper by the next election.

He'll have had nearly a decade in power by then anyway. He'll most likely overreach his mandate or become unpoular with his party forcing him out. The question is which opposition party will be here to pick up the pieces.

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Bragi

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Tue May-03-11 01:43 PM
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12. The problem isn't Canadian voters

The problem is that 6 in 10 of us split our votes 4 ways. This will continue until the parties merge or collaborate, which I don't think will happen for purely partisan reasons for a long time.

I see another 7-8 years of conservative rule before the public demands that the NDP and Lib stalwarts piss off and agree to a merger, or until another party emerges that the 6 in 10 will support.

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tuvor

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Mon May-02-11 11:59 PM
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7. Isn't the fixed election date law still officially the law?

Now that he has the majority he begged for...

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icnorth

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Tue May-03-11 05:48 AM
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8. Laws are for little people, not dictators. n/t

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iverglas

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Tue May-03-11 01:06 PM
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11. "overreach his mandate"

in the sense, I think, of acting as if he has a genuine majority instead of just a majority of seats.

Piss enough people off in 4 years by acting according to yer true colours, and you might find yourself not having that next time.

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Bragi

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Tue May-03-11 01:44 PM
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13. He's been pissing people of now for 5 years

And he keeps getting elected because the NDP and Libs refuse to collaborate.

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iverglas

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Tue May-03-11 02:03 PM
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14. all I was actually doing

craigmatic said: "He'll most likely overreach his mandate".

tuvor asked whether the fixed term wasn't law now.

I thought tuvor had misunderstood the "mandate" referred to by craigmatic -- i.e. what Harper actually has a mandate from the people to do, not what his temporal mandate was.

If you want to disagree with craigmatic, do feel free.

Personally, I think Harper keeps getting elected because people vote for him, strange as that may seem.

And in this particular case, because quite a few Liberal voters did decided to cooperate -- with Harper.

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Bragi

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Tue May-03-11 02:47 PM
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15. Lib vote went to the NDP and the Cons

Not sure what your point is, assuming you have one.

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iverglas

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Tue May-03-11 02:54 PM
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16. well that looks like my point, eh?

LIBERALS vote strategically CONSERVATIVE.

Let's blame them, 'k?

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Bragi

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Tue May-03-11 03:03 PM
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17. NDP votes went conservative too in some areas

I no longer understand your point. I presume you are defending sectarianism of some sort, right?

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iverglas

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Tue May-03-11 03:56 PM
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18. I told you what my point was

I was explaining what I thought another poster meant by "overreach his mandate".

You're the one posting incoherent irrelevancies after that, I fear!

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Bragi

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Tue May-03-11 04:21 PM
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19. Oh /nt

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Bragi

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Tue May-03-11 04:27 PM
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20. On the matter of NDP having less power

You are correct on that. The official opposition has very little power or even influence when the government has a strong majority. They do get more money though.

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