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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:25 AM
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Is bush's win of the popular vote due to those evangelicals
that rove et al. kept talking about?

I kept hearing about the 4 million evanangelical voters that did not vote in 2000. bush had to secure them with the wedge issues, abortion and gay marriage.

Rapture anyone?:crazy:
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veteran_for_peace Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:25 AM
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1. Yes
They made the difference
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demodan Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:36 AM
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9. RE: Is bush's win of the popular vote due to those evangelicals
"Yes"
Posted by flood999
They made the difference

Anecdotal evidence to that fact:

Just got off the phone with a friend who goes to the local Catholic Church in my precinct and she told me they had 50 plus new Catholic voters registered this election and they are sure all voted for BUSH because of the abortion issue.(They all went to the polls together and prayed afterward)

This is significant for our precinct because there was about 500+ people total who voted.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:50 AM
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14. I don't know what you can do about this
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:26 AM
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2. Yes. In exit polls, 22% of those polled claimed that "moral values"
were a big issue.

Yeah, moral values - like killing 1100+ of our soldiers in an unnecessary way along with tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:29 AM
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5. Oh, but you just don't understand...
"Moral values" only pertain to matters of sex and reproduction. Lying, stealing, killings thousands of innocent people, raping the land et al don't count.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:46 AM
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12. No, actually I understand quite well.
"Moral values" is code for "I'm anti-gay and anti-choice". It's an excuse to be bigoted and ignorant.

Argh.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:04 AM
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11. Exit polls also apparently predicted a far different outcome.
eom
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:47 AM
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13. The exit polls may have been more accurate than we've been led to believe.
n/t
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:27 AM
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3. Yes the rapture is near for them
And this world will be better off with them gone!!
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:29 AM
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4. Yep. We won by 500K last time
now the Bush margin is 3.5 million. thats 4 million for Bush. Im sick of this shit.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:31 AM
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6. Not at all.
This is a CON. America held hostage by BushCo, Diebold, and Corporate Media, Part II.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:32 AM
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7. it was due to dieboldt.
guaranteed.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:36 AM
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8. I still say the uncounted spiritual left outvotes the rigid religious
right.

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Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter /
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:39 AM
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10. There are a multitude of issues, but the evangelical vote
definitely can't be ignored. I'm seeing horsemen on the horizon.
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:51 AM
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15. Simple Diebold Fraud on a massive scale
See SocalDem's threads and statistical analysis.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:02 AM
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16. Evangelicals and Catholics.
The Church was very strong for Bush this time around. Not everyone bought it, but it didn't hurt Bush's numbers in the weeks leading up to the election to have in almost every Catholic Church in America regular sermons about the importance of voting "pro-life" (in the way the conservative church hierarchy defines it pro-life = antiabortion, but not anti-war or anti-deathpenalty)
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:20 AM
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17. My parish stressed a consistent life ethic
Fortunately, I go to a progressive, or should I say, a neoprogressive parish. My priest's idea of voting pro-life is including all life--born and unborn!

It's the conservative parishes and dioceses who politic from the pulpit, only they get around it by not explicitly mentioning names and political parties. But we know they're shoving the theofascist agenda down our throats; sadly, too many Catholics buy it.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:23 AM
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18. This is why I HATE religion.
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