I have a problem with Kerry assuming the presidency if he didn't fight for

it. From all accounts there really is no indicator that John Kerry is fighting for the presidency that he won. I'm so conflicted over this...

I'm not at all conflicted when I put it in that perspective.

will make the last four seem like a picnic in the park. There are going to be a lot of people hurt or much much worse. That's the thing that keeps me awake at night. In comparison, concern about what Kerry may or may not be doing behind the scenes pales into insignificance.

I do believe, however, despite Kerry's efforts or lack thereof, Bush will be sworn in in January. His cabal fights dirtier than we do. If we the people do what we can to cast doubt on his "victory," he may have a more difficult time with the most egregious policies he hopes to enact.

I have a big problem with that!

n/t

the Presidency this time. I like what mandatemyass said though.

just curious.

behind the scenes. We have lots of psychics in the group.

Mandate my ass is so right, perspective is everything!

Just because you can't see that Kerry's involved, doesn't mean he isn't. There are bigger things at stake here than keeping everyone emotionally comfortable while the investigation takes place. If we're told that Kerry and Edwards are involved, then the WH will know, too. And that's not okay, no matter what anyone claims.

If Kerry opened his mouth about this, THAT would be the focus, sore loser would be the only sound bite we'd hear. And it would have instantly galvanized into a partisan issue with half of America thinking it was all about "sore losers"

As it is, the sound bite is more and more frequently "Election Fraud". The more that hear it, the more get curious. Curious makes for a bi partisan issue, one that gets the support of RePugs as well. Who do you think could sway a RePug Rep or Senator? His Democratic constituents?

As long as Kerry and everyone else are repeating "this isn't about overturning the election, we lost by too big a margin" - the story has legs and can grow. The minute it becomes a Dem vs Rep fight over sore losers - the story withers on the vine (don't forget who controls the MSM) and we lose. Just like 2000, no more investigation, no more facts uncovered, no one who cares.

that he had reserved in his campaign for recounting etc.

That isn't good. I donated to the legal fund!

that the reported $50 million is more like $15, that he has donated 250,000 to the WA governors recount (I could be wrong, but I do remember hearing it was the max he was allowed to donate)

recount. The one that matters for HIM!

spent in on so far? Nothing that I can think of, but plenty when this thing gets to the courtroom.

in some way. Look what happened to Gore when he came out swinging. He was DESTROYED! I knew people who voted for Gore who said they wished that they hadn't after the 2000 hoopla.

Let's not forget that Kerry is a fighter...unlike "some". I don't think he has given up. He is just 'fighting smart'.

'course I could be wrong.

As such, it belongs to him whether or not he lifts a finger afterwards.

person that uses his "fights" to validate himself to others and upstage an issue. Patience is one of his strengths. IMO

Hi. I am remembering something that I either heard or read about Kerry prior to the election. It was questioned about why he hadn't sponsored many bills in the senate. They said that to him, it was more important that bills be passed, then for him to get the credit for it. I think it is more important to him, probably that the election fraud to be exposed, than for him to be the one to get the credit for exposing it - so I believe he is doing what he can to get it exposed, like donating the money for the recounts in Washington when they needed it, and is working behind the scenes to make sure that things get done. He's good at working behind the scenes to get things done and bring people together for a cause he believes in.

At least that's what I'm hoping.

Meg

He is being very smart by hanging back. We would never ever have gotten this far with the evidence if he had jumped in full force. Look at Gore 2000. We need to believe in Kerry, and his Integrity. I believe in him wholeheartedly.

You know what, you can rest your mind, there's no chance that Kerry will become president. (at least not in this counrty!)

The truth will be revealed in its own time. Smirky will leave the WH in disgrace.

May not be in this "country", Gitmo is a good possibility ?

Hope they let the guards have a little "fun" with the POS AWOL Cowardly Cokehead Commander-In-Thief......

Welcome to the DU spguilty. 8)

I'm not sure I understand your meaning spguilty.
Why is there 'no chance' that Kerry will become Pres?

Thnx in Advance

of the same.

no need to fake like you give a damn.

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seriously who cares how it would happen. You have no idea what he is doing or not doing to "fight" He's just not on camera is all.

Johnny get angry, Johnny get mad, Johnny hey man-I want a caveman. Johnny show me that you care-realy care for me.

...away from the real issue and turn it to some supposed flaw with Kerry.

I was just venting my frustrations...

have to take the next best target...

Anyway, and we will all stand beside him.

before the votes were cast. Now we need to count the votes accurately.

assuming the presidency at this point.

anything better than chimpieshit

from an AP article on CNN:
Electoral College set to certify election
Doubts persist about integrity of nation's voting system

Four paragraphs down:

"It's critical that we investigate and understand any and every voting irregularity anywhere in our country, not because it would change the outcome of the election but because Americans have to believe that their votes are counted in our democracy," John Kerry said this week, after calling for a statewide recount in Ohio.

Full article today:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/10/unsettled.election.ap/index.html

I am sure with time you will feel better about it.

He fought for it plenty, for two years.

do you know he wasn't fighting for it. :eyes:

<<<< I'm so conflicted over this... >>>>

WOULD IT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER IF WE KEEP IN OFFICE A MASS-MURDERER DICTATOR WHO STOLE TWO ELECTIONS?

replacing the Cabinet, changing the direction in Iraq, appointing fair judges to the Supreme Court, etc.

We don't just want to oust *, we also want to oust his whole Administration.