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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:31 PM
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GREAT cartoon comparing Ukraine to US


http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/2004/12/13/


"Cartoonist Criticizes Coverage of U.S. Voting Problems

By Dave Astor

Published: December 14, 2004 12:10 PM ET

NEW YORK Cartoonist Wiley Miller is disgusted with how little attention the American media is paying to reports of voting irregularities on Nov. 2, and he made his feelings known in yesterday's "Non Sequitur" comic.
"
<snip>

More here
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000736773
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:34 PM
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1. Email him
and thank Wiley for this cartoon!! Encourage him to send it to foreign press!

http://www.ucomics.com/nonsequitur/email.phtml

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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:35 PM
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2. That says it all. eom
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:38 PM
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3. I just emailed him
thanking him and asked if he got this to the foreign press. I also directed him to DU and suggested he join the conversation about the results.
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:40 PM
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4. We are watching Fascism Take over...
Iv been sending emails to the 391 media sources from http://www.independentmediasource.com/voteintegrity2_09.htm. about the Media Lockdown.

If you need some inspiration on what to say to the media about this check out this thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x135353

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:42 PM
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5. THANKS!!
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:05 PM
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10. ,,,
:thumbsup:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:34 PM
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13. :)
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:46 PM
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6. Perfect comic to email to ALL of the msm!
Don't ya think! ;)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:49 PM
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7. Yes
That's a great idea!! Keith Olbermann would probably put a link on his blog and talk about it as well - but you're right - should go to ALL MSM!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:55 PM
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8. probably should email Mr. Astor as well and thank him
for his article about the cartoon which brought my attention to it for the first time. His way of getting the fraud out to the MSM

http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000736773

Above is a link to the article about the cartoon and here is his email address:

Dave Astor (dastor@editorandpublisher.com) is a senior editor at E&P.
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Hobbes199 Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:05 PM
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9. Nice.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:06 PM
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11. Yes I'm kickin this
because we MUST thank those with big voices for covering this!!!

<snip>"Non Sequitur" appears in more than 700 newspapers -- none of which, to Miller's knowledge, complained about yesterday's comic. Reader reaction? "I've been surprised by how little response it's gotten. I thought I'd be flooded by red-state rage, but it just shows that you can never predict these things. The cartoons you think will get the most reaction hardly ever get what you expect, while the most innocuous cartoons quite often produce a flood of mail."

The mail Miller has received is all positive so far. One person wrote: "Thanks for the great 'toon which pokes fun at the Ukraine election and, by innuendo, the problem with our own election 2004. Is it too much to hope that the issue is getting out there? I sure would like to see more cartoonists ... join you."

Miller told E&P "it's not cartoonists I want to join me in questioning the election results, it's editors and reporters. But they're so far gone in being bought off by corporate interests, it's not going to happen. We no longer have a free, independent press in this country."
Dave Astor (dastor@editorandpublisher.com) is a senior editor at E&P. </snip>
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:30 PM
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12. HE RESPONDED!!



Hi (helderheid),

You're welcome. And thank you for your kind e-mail. I'll look at the forum
when I have a few minutes later today.

Best wishes,

Dave




"helderheidTo: <dastor@editorandpublisher.com>
Subject: Cartoonist Criticizes Coverage of U.S. Voting Problems


12/14/04 12:50
PM



Thank you so much for this article! I wasn't even aware of the cartoon until my google alert on vote fraud alerted me to your article! BRAVO!

Please consider checking out the talk on this forum about the 2004
results:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203







Thank you!!

(name, city state, phone) (
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:42 PM
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14. Good stuff
Thanks
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:56 PM
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15. Wonder if we'll hear from him here :)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:17 PM
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16. Wiley wrote me back too :)
From: Wiley Miller
Date: 12/14/04 12:09:10
To:
Subject: Re: Non Sequitur Email Comment!


Thanks! This article in Editor and Publisher online might interest you.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?
vnu_content_id=1000736773

Wiley


On Dec 14, 2004, at 12:34 PM, wrote:

> Name:
> Email:
> Order Number:
> Comments: LOVE the Ukraine/US fraud cartoon! Have you considered
> sending it to foreign press?? You're terrific, thank you for this!!
>
> PS - you may want to chat on www.democraticunderground.com on the 2004
> elections forum.
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:38 PM
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17. I just got a reply from the editor of the AJC
in Atlanta thanking me for the cartoon and email.He says he will try to run it tommorow!

WooHoo!Thanks again for posting it.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:07 PM
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18. YEAH!!!
GREAT WORK!!! That's terrific!!! I'll send it to the SaltLakeWeekly and see if they bite :)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:45 PM
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19. C'mon y'all
please thank these guys and ask your papers to run it! Thanks for those who have already.
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BreakForNews Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:17 PM
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20. : - )
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:20 PM
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21. Beautiful!
Gotta write that cartoonist as well! :)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:24 PM
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22. More
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