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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:17 PM
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CSPAN: "Protestors are organizing a massive outpouring against the Inau
the B*sh Inauguaration, as per The Washington Post".
They also mentioned the "never-before" TREMENDOUS SECURITY that will be surrounding the White House and neighboring locale.

1:12 PM...
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:20 PM
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1. more security than 2000?
so it will be stormtroopers 10 deep along the route? Snipers on all the roof tops?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:23 PM
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2. Yes.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:05 AM
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47. WRONG DATE.. be in DC on the 6th.. thats the protest nt
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:24 PM
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3. SOMETHING TOO ABOUT ALL REPORTERS being fingerprinted nt
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Hobbes199 Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:28 PM
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6. This really is a dictatorship.
Impressive really, if you're able to detach yourself from the situation. Then they'll get the presidential term limit revoked - will just pass a law allowing it, no need to screw with the Constitution. The fall of the greatest nation on earth... We had a good run though, no?
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:30 PM
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8. ...
"Never appreciated what we had until it was gone."


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walkon Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:25 PM
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4. Might have to decalre
Martial Law just to keep things pretty. Must be pretty, oh and tough, too.
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:27 PM
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5. I guess they'll be carrying a lot of extra handcuffs to arrest
all of us dissidents, eh?
:spank:
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:29 PM
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7. yes they will :))
:evilgrin: :spank::evilgrin: :spank::evilgrin: :spank: :evilgrin:
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bmoney07 Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:31 PM
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9. if your honest and truthful
then why are you so damn afraid "W"

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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 10:55 AM
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52. Because he is the AntiChrist
Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 10:56 AM by jsascj
And Antichrists tend to make me nervous.
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:33 PM
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10. I wonder how many of us will be there?
CSPAN said MASSIVE PROTESTS!


GOODD!!!!
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:37 PM
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11. The chimp
Had protestors rounded up and carted off to jail in NYC during the Repub. convention because the little bastard didn't want to "see them".
You think they will "allow" peaceful protest during his innaugeration?
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:37 PM
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12. suggestion: declare NYC "free speech zone" have massive demo there
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:39 PM
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14. We had 600,000 here protesting the RNC
ONLY cspan covered it.
The outher stations just showed the arrests.

it was a fabulous day!!
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:46 PM
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16. omg-I didn't know that.
Iv only been here since Nov 1st.Well Hallelujah!thanks for posting that little nugget of info.
Wouldn't it be grand if we had a press that reported "news" like that?
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:07 PM
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17. We started marching at 11:00AM...It took till after 5: 00PM TO WALK
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 02:09 PM by Karenca
from 14th street, to 34th street (Madison Square Garden where the RNC was), back to 14th Street.
Michael Moore, Jesse Jackson, and Samuel Jackson were in the front of the group. People from all the US came, as well as Canada.

I released alot of anger that day.
It's all back now.
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:20 PM
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26. Thats amazing.
Im so proud of you guys.:hug:

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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:07 PM
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38. A small group of Repukes were standing outside their hotel (behind
barriers with police officers)..I literally saw red..
Of course, we all started to chant 'you're not welcome", cause those damn 'NEW YORK CITY WELCOMES THE RNC ' signs were out. We were enraged that they came to this blue city.
When we got to Madison Square Garden, the drum beating and the chanting 'no more Bush' became very loud. We walked past them, holding 1000 coffins for our slain soldiers. They all stared as if we were aliens from another planet. 'no more years', and "this is what democracy looks like" we screamed; a TINY group of them reiterated with "Four more years", which started us with 'Four more wars"...One or two of them along the way gave us the finger, but that was all.
Then we turned the corner to the FOX News Station....'FOX You suck'. I found out that this, the largest protest ever except for the million man march, received very little coverage, except for Cspan, which had it on all day.
But, my relatives who were visiting Europe said that it was front page NEWS there.
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:13 PM
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41. That makes me tear up.
Thank You NeW Yorkers and everyone involved in that March.Thank you from the bottom of my heart.



GOD ALMIGHTY why can't we do something like that NOW???
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:15 PM
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42. It was a grand march
Seems a thousand years ago now. Makes me sad to think of all that energy we had seemingly wasted. Sometimes I loathe this country.
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intelle Donating Member (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:23 PM
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27. I watched the protests
They were amazing. I got goose bumps!!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:44 PM
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35. It was one of the best days EVER
It was 100 degrees and the cops had on riot suits and we were penned in behind 8 ft storm fencing, and it was a FABULOUS day. I love NY!
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 12:51 AM
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44. I loved it too---
It was my best day in a very long time :))
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:38 PM
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13. or maybe do it at Jefferson Memorial?
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:40 PM
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15. Those damn DISSENTERS again!
Mere conspiracy lunatics!

:puke:
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:10 PM
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18. Looks like WP is priming this story
As if they are playing surrogate leaders of the protest. I'm sure they feel it will make good copy. Too bad they wont prime the voting fraud story with as much energy.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:12 PM
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19. Protests will be kept far away and out of camera view
Remember last year? Where was any footage of egg throwing, sign-carrying protests which were fairly large?

An idea I heard for this year was to bring noisemakers and honking car horns. Whatever can make a loud noise - assuming they'll at least have to keep the sound going on film.

Any thoughts on that?

PJ

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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:14 PM
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20. can't you buy those loud air horns?
they must sell those commerically, lol just bring ear plugs and put them in unison
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:28 PM
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30. Yes - canned airhorns from boating supply stores
make a joyful noise unto the idiot son.


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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:17 PM
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24. Great idea! I like that
noise is a great idea!!

BTW, all you NY's I will never forget seeing the coverge (and there was MSM coverage) of all of you protesting during the RNC. It made my heart sing!!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:33 PM
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31. MAKE SOME NOISE PEOPLE
We may not be seen but we can be HEARD.

Maybe deafeningly so!

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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:36 PM
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33. Ear plugs
Start buying them by the case. Just pass them out with Air horn.

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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:14 PM
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21. Has there ever been a two million person march on DC?
n/t
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:15 PM
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22. Not that I know of...want to make
this one a first?
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:17 PM
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23. Why not go for 10 million?
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:18 PM
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25. Why not? nt
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:23 PM
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28. Sounds good to me. If we have enough people, no media blackout
can hide the truth.
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Hobbes199 Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:26 PM
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29. Sounds good to me.
I think our goal should be 1 Million arrests for doing nothing other than peacably assembling.
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:35 PM
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32. IF WE COULD GET SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND to PROTEST THE RNC
Why cant we at least double or triple that to pritest the inauguaration?

'Some of the marchers were met by a small number of counterdemonstrators
who chanted "Four More Years" in support of the Bush administration.

"We are the majority," filmmaker Michael Moore told the crowd.
"A majority of this country opposes this war ...
a majority of this country never voted for this administration."
Leslie Cagan, national coordinator for United for Peace and Justice,
said the message revolves around the word "no."
"We are saying 'no' to the Bush agenda,
'no' to the war in Iraq,
'no'to the regime change by our government,
'no' to pre-emptive war,
'no' to the economic policies,".
Civil rights leader Jesse Jackson and Moore led the protest march as
it began on Seventh Avenue.
"We have an obligation to speak out until we can raise our heads above
the sands of Iraq and Afghanistan," Jackson said.
"No weapons of mass destruction, we seek to rationalize the war.
We challenge Mr. Bush to choose another course."
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:41 PM
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34. Well...

This is great. However, there needs to a massive protest BEFORE the election.

I don't want to see him inaugurated at all!
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:45 PM
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36. Me neither..There's another thread about a TV Ad campaign..If we
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 02:46 PM by Karenca
could get that going, also, somehow, mention IN THAT about the protest.......







I ALWAYS HAVE TO EDIT MY SPELLING :((
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:11 PM
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40. haha
"I always have to edit my spelling"


ME TOO :(

lol.
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:11 PM
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37. Not all can go
But organizing to gather and/or march in the smallest town will show, and some will know, and maybe begin to think and wonder why!
Once we again allow bush to be declared and inaugurated without any show of rebellion, we can kiss all future elections good-bye!
Without the honest vote there is no "United" states of america!
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:09 PM
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39. Please post the link
I'm trying to keep track of all this stuff. Thanks in advance!
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:01 AM
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45. No link--I was watching CSpan............nt
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:16 PM
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43. Washington DC is too far for me, but
If anyone here is planning on going, I'd really like to see them videotape and sound record it and release it to EVERY media outlet in the nation! Someone's going to run it THIS time!
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n69n Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:02 AM
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46. focus groups
oh thats just focus groups.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:08 AM
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48. Checklist of things to bring:
1 million people will need the following:

_X_ Gas-mask to withstand the onslaught of tear-gas and stench of corruption

_X_ Air-horn so as to be heard with

_X_ Flags (hung and waved upside down) to show how Bush has turned our country upside down

_X_ Warm clothing with extra-padding to withstand bitter cold and rubber bullets

_X_ Camcorders to collect it all for historical records

_X_ 1 dozen eggs (can you imagine 12 million eggs hitting the streets of D.C.... that would be a sight to see)
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 01:16 AM
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49. thank you berni_mccoy for the list I have copied it to my word doc

for perparing for the big day, we must raise up against the evil that has been created by * and company
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 10:37 AM
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50. 3 Mile March to the White House Planned
I posted this thread about, but I think t's going to get buried:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x161379
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 10:38 AM
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51. Rumor has it that * will have two divisions of National Guard, possibly 3!
OH, Brave New World!
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ivorysteve Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:09 AM
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53. Yes, check out the Voice Of The White House posting for Dec. 4
If you haven't seen these postings before, they're apparently written by an anonymous dissafected White House insider:

"Now, down to more serious matters. First of all, I have written before about the incredible security precautions to be taken here for the Imperial Inauguration in January. I am sending you part of a DHS bulletin that will back this up. I can’t send you the Secret Service directives because to publish them would result in immediate and furious reactions and probably visits from the flat of feet and pointy of head.

There will be more security in and around DC than Hitler ever had at one of his rallies. Everything but the Nazi flags and goose-stepping SS men. There will be Coast Guard watches over all waterways around Washington, Air Force units on instant readiness (unlike the very odd and highly suspicious total lack of concern on September 11…in spite of many important warnings of an attack) with antiaircraft missile units in place all around the Beltway, on the ground and especially on the roofs of buildings around the Capitol and the White House.

On the ground, heavily armed Special Forces units everywhere, waiting inside Federal buildings to emerge and “deal severely” with any organized crowd activity directed against the Head Chimpanzee. And I mean the orders are, and I have seen them, to drag protesters outside the view of the public and especially the cameras and beat the shit out of them.

Bush and his Gestapo have not forgotten the last inauguration wherein people actually had the nerve to hoot and jeer at him and, far worse, to hurl vegetables and other objects at the Imperial limousine. My God, you should have seen our Beloved President’s face when blunt objects thundered down on his car!

He was as white as a KKK sheet and his mouth was hanging open in shock. Top speed to the White House and he had to have a soothing shot before he wet himself..."

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1241.htm

Sounds about right. So be careful out there.

Steve

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:11 AM
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54. MAKE NOISE, NOT JUST SIGNS!!
Bring in 'Da Noise, Bring in 'Da Funk!
And bring ear plugs (as suggested by another DUer)

This is a repost but I thought it important enough....

Protests will be kept far away and out of camera view. Remember last year? Where was any footage of egg throwing, sign-carrying protests which were fairly large? An idea I heard for this year was to bring noisemakers and honking car horns. Whatever can make a loud noise - assuming they'll at least have to keep the sound going on film.

You can buy those canned airhorns at boating supply stores - they make a BIG noise. Also any New Year's Eve bells, horns and whistles you have hanging around. I know people taking their little league coaching whistles too.

PROTESTS SHOULD BE HEARD IF NOT SEEN!!:headbang:

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