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Stop Shrub Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:01 PM
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If we could access Kerry or Edwards
What would we say?
What do we think they could do?
What are the most concise arguments as to why they should get involved?

In other words what do you think is our strongest arguments to convince them to jump aboard this sinking ship with us? Please these are retorical questions no need to flame...
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Barney Rocks Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:06 PM
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1. Some people are well connected
and CAN get a message to either man. What do you really want to say to them?

I can tell you right now that all they want to hear from you is--

1) I will be supporting you in 2008
and
2) My check book is open how much do you need.

If you say those things--you will be a big hero to them. Anything else--good luck!
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:09 PM
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2. I say, now or never--take it to the streets.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=155184&mesg_id=155184
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Barney Rocks Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:11 PM
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5. I like the way you think.
This is up to US the people--WE are going to have to take our country back.

If we rely on Kerry or Edwards we are going to be sadly let down. This is something the PEOPLE have to do. Welcome to the revolution.
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Barney Rocks Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:11 PM
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6. I like the way you think.
This is up to US the people--WE are going to have to take our country back.

If we rely on Kerry or Edwards we are going to be sadly let down. This is something the PEOPLE have to do. Welcome to the revolution.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:09 PM
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3. Stop expecting leaders to lead. Take action. Dean said it best..
YOU have the power, YOU have the power, YOU HAVE THE POWER.
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:09 PM
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I would tell them


that they let down the world, especially hundreds of thousand innocent Iraqi women and children, by their ignorance, indifference and incompetence!!

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:09 PM
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4. If you want my vote in 2008
then you will have to count my vote in 2004. If my vote for a Dem won't be counted now, it certainly won't in 2008. SO I may as well, and will, vote Green.
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boi1946 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:23 PM
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8. Then the votes for the Greens won't be counted.
The fraud needs to be stopped now. This may be the third time they've worked this particular scam....
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:30 AM
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16. It looks to me like the Greens were handed many Kerry votes
in some areas. Wouldn't it be hilarious if the righties pulled that again, and found lots of real Green votes added in, threatening their carefully crafted theft?
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:21 PM
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7. graywarrior is right - You Have The Power
So use it:

www.thedeanpeople.org

(tour busses welcome)
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:38 PM
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9. Interesting websites you got there.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:40 PM
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10. my message is
Lead, and your people will follow.
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:47 PM
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11. if you ever find one of them
tell them their will not be a democratic party if they blow this election fraud thing. For one reason, 20% of the american people believe that there was fraud, and most of them are in the democratic party(except for a few truth seekers.) So if this 20% does not have faith in the election system ,then they will probably not be going to vote.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:50 PM
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12. Kerry and his staff know what is going on
It isn't a matter of lack of information. His office is getting quite a few letters, faxes, emails and phone calls.
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:31 AM
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17. Exactly, they are proceeding as they intend n/t
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Stop Shrub Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:51 PM
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13. im not talking about reaming them
i mean what is the best and most effective way to convince them to help? There are people on this board that might have access to them, maybe they just monitor the site and don't post or maybe they are big names here. My point is that what should they tell these prominent senators if they get the chance?
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:47 PM
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14. I'm sending a postcard to Kerry's home address: 19 Louisberg Square,
Boston, MA 02108-1202 and asking him to report to duty to Rep. John Conyers. I'm mentioning that my mother and myself donated to his campaign and volunteered for his campaign AND contributed to have Ohio and Washington recounted. His daughter Vanessa had a nightmare in which the election was stolen, and her father assured her he wouldn't let that happen. In order to do so, he needs to participate openly in the Ohio investigation. There was definitely suppression and enough concerns about election fraud that our election process is severely compromised.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 06:56 PM
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15. Hi candice!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:33 AM
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18. good idea, I could say many of the same things
without plagiarizing too badly I hope. :-) I donated and phone banked, and displayed the sticker, and placed signs.

Welcome aboard.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:58 AM
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19. Dude. The sinking ship is the American Political System as it is.
Think of this as the lifeboat.
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