Conyers: stop crushing our mailbox

The following message was forwared to us last night. It speaks for itself.

If you would like to substitute e-mailing to Conyers for tormenting Republicans, please come to http://www.usvip.org and help with our action request.

Thanks




Dear Ms. XXXX,

Our office has appreciated the response it has received regarding the voting problems in Ohio, however these emails while send with the best of intentions are clogging our email and requiring us to spend hours filtering these emails into the proper folders. We as democrats can talk about election reform, but in the House it is Majority rules and the only people who can really reform the voting process to ensure each vote is accurately counted are the Republicans.

If activists focused their efforts on getting R.'s to work for some kind of voting reform that would help the cause much more. I encourage you to contact your member of Congress, and if you like the Judiciary R.'s (although Members of Congress often only read respond to their own constituents communications), to support election reform and transparency.


Sincerely,

Matthew M. Thome
Representative John Conyers, Jr.
Legislative Correspondent

but, in the absence of leadership, we become the leaders.

Now we know what Conyers wants (notice, we only got it in the negative? Rolling my good eye). Well, now we can do that.

My point is, if the leadership weren't a twinkie short of a pair, this would be a smoother process. Better, apparently there are enough of us to wax the car. Onto the next car.

Whatever, Conyers is still my hero.

One who doesn't 'correspond' with typos and poorly worded context.

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and a run-on writing style. I could have written a better public e-mail in the seventh grade.

Honestly. These are the type of people we have working for our government correspondence when I know at least three English majors out of work?

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I have the email that includes the address from Matt.Thome@mail.house.gov. To the best of my ability to confirm this, it's a legitimate message.

I'm getting back to work.

:bounce:

If he is already working on it what difference would all the emails make?

We shouldn't email him unless we have important information to share.

regularjoe

edited to make more clear

and not a plot to get people to stop emailing Conyers?

If they are merely emails of support why would he request them?
I understand that if people have important info they should share it, but I don't understand a blanket request for supportive email. What good would that do?

regularjoe

if they got a million emails they would consider contesting the Ohio electors

It might be legitimate, if it is how many others received that?

that have been organizing the demonstrations in the SF Bay Area.

I trust him, and can only hope that he received it from a reliable source.

OTOH, I never say anything "official" where Conyers asked for a million mails. Have you? I think the message to "bug the pugs" is on target.

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http://www.ourcampaigns.com/cgi-bin/r.cgi/NewsDetail.html?&NewsID=348

Arrested for destroying campaign signs? Hmmmmmm, interesting.

The note DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.

http://vocusgr.vocus.com/vfw/webpub/vfw/ProfileLegislator.asp?LegislatorID=7407&XSL=ProfileLegislatorNS

He just needs to work on his letterwriting skills. ...And keep that malicious intent controlled.

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I posted a telephone campaign on Monday, and with the exception of you bumping it a couple times, it fell like a rock in all the forums I posted it.

I already posted a link in this post and if people want to do something, the actions are all on our home page.

Thanks JamBoi.

wasn't really a request from Conyers?

too many people are gonna be having us try to do something to make the whole cause look ridiculous. we really do need to be careful.

i have a feeling that 'million emails to conyers' was some kind of hoax...

Why would I write to a Republican politician asking for anything when I already know what the answer would be?

This is nonsensical

and to the MoveOn Forum and say, "Hey, we FILLED Conyers mailbox. And now he wants us to email the opposition."

It's all good. Well done, folks.

It says Rep. Conyers asked us to email THE HOUSE. As you know the HOuse is made up of both Republicans and Democracts. SO there you have it. That's why I posted that. IT seems someones trying to kill this...or confuse us. I'm going to send emails to both. I would think if they didn't want emails, they wouldn't have posted it on their webpage TODAY. Once again go to the Green party page and see for yourself...

http://www.votecobb.org/


House Judiciary Committee

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/contact.html

mailing. Sorry if this is a dup.

But, pray tell, what can it possibly hurt for us to email the GOP leadership of this committee?

There is no "House", for pete's sake. There is the Repugnican leader and there are the few Dems that are hanging on for dear life.

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His staff is on OUR side! Take actions toward Republicans at www.pdamerica.org

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Pretty cool page that allows you to send out pre-made emails to send to a large amount of media outlets demanding the media pay more attention to the voting irregularities.

Very good site.

http://www.independentmediasource.com/voteintegrity2_12.htm

off of votecobb.org. We spoke to David yesterday, and we are crafting our next week action. Let me know if it is still on! email me as i am not on here all the time kevin@pdamerica.org

Excuse me??

Where did this come from?

It's been broadcast several times on public radio in my area, and so I passed it along here, but with a "?." The message was that Conyers wanted 1 million emails of support for full Congressional hearings.

I also called Conyers' office to see what they wanted, and posted it here, in the same forum: "Conyers asks for 1 million emails re forum/hearings?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=156204&mesg_id=156204

The aide I spoke to (unfortunately didn't get a name) said, yes, Conyers wants full hearings; no, they had not put out call for 1 million emails, but, yes, they welcome all letters of support; and no, full hearings, if they happen, probably won't be soon, not before Jan. 20 (long term project).

On the basis of these answers, we discussed strategy and priorities at the above forum, that first priorities right now are: to encourage House Dems (including Conyers) to petition to the Senate on Jan. 6 not to certify Ohio, to encourage Senate Dems to sign the petition, and also to give Conyers support for full hearings (and praise for the forums and other investigative actions).

I have suspicions about the above email (from Matthew M. Thome), not just because of the mispellings, but because Congressional emails are set up to receive volume, and do automatic sorting by "topic." But the advice given is not bad--hit the Republicans!

I will call Conyers office back tomorrow morning (Wed. 12/16) for a clarification. (I doubt this is "dirty tricks" stuff--if anything, just miscommunication.)

Here's Repub head of House Judiciary--to pressure for full hearings:

Chairman: F. James Sensenbrenner, JR. (R-Wisc.) sensenbrenner@mail.house.gov - Tel: (202) 225-5101

He does not want 1 million emails. Believe me. Please. We got 4,000 today. 4,000 yesterday. The House email system is pretty bad and it slows down all of our computers.

We appreciate your enthusiasm and it is really encouraging to know that so many people have our backs. But we get it! We're in this for the long haul and we are with you. Go work on the folks who are not.

As for Matt's email, my guess is he was typing a quick informal note that he hoped would get around. As you can probably imagine, one man getting 4,000 emails a day doesn't have a lot of time to proofread.

Would you care to contact me at www.usvip.org and help us understand how to best support Conyers and the Judiciary?

Thanks,
Greg

Expect to hear from me Thursday.

Sorry for the miscommunication & thank you all mightily for your work.

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Sign this petition to Senator Boxer and ask her to be the ONE SENATOR when Conyers makes the call!!!

www.contestthevote.org

Do it now. Save a life.

I'm one of the DUers who was really trying to push to get an organization such as MoveOn (True Majority looked even more promising) to carry through with the 1 million email effort. The recent letter from the Conyers office seems disappointing. Here is one of the postings that had originally called for the emailings:

http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/index.php?showtopic=10075&hl=

Also I'm sure I heard Conyers mention this request in one of the interviews he gave last week.

I wonder if the problem was that they were receiving too many duplicate postings from the same people. Or possibly disruptive emails were being sent in the same way that freepers try to take over Democratic online boycotts?

Anyway, I believe that the intent was that they wanted to hear from a sizeable enough portion of the population in order to justify starting a full hearing.

The latest allegations of criminal activity on behalf of the GOP sound important enough that they may well decide to proceed. I haven't been keeping up with the news enough to know for sure, but this looks very interesting:

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/996"

Ohio vote count battles escalate amidst new evidence of potential criminal activity
by Bob Fitrakis, Steve Rosenfeld and Harvey Wasserman
December 18, 2004

but I think we have a misunderstanding here.

Conyers does not need a single email to be supportive of this effort. He obviously is. However, we welcome any tips, comments, or complaints by email, phone or whatever. We just don't need people emailing for the sake of helping us reach some goal we do not have.

IMHO, efforts are best focussed on people who are not 100% supportive than people who are.

This is an effort to stop the willy nilly emailing to him that apparantly was flooding his email system????

but that is exactly what an organization with a comprehensive mailing list such as that of True Majority is capable of: reaching those who are not paying attention to politics because the election is over, or perhaps because of the holidays.

I understand that Rep. Conyers is already supportive of this effort, but I thought the goal was to create a bipartisan effort within the judiciary committee. Is this still feasible?

I agree that the activists should not be sending out repetitive form letters over and over.

. . .is saying to folks, "OK to stop with Conyers" - not the others. :-)

but to show Sensenbrenner, to gain credibility and support from populous for the investigations. This is the equivalent of Ukrainians marching in the streets.

I find the email very flaky. A college student does not make the kind of writing errors made in that email. This looks a continuum of the 5th grade grammar we're seeing from the freepers.