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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:18 AM
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Open Letter to All Election Fraud Hunters:
You are a small group with little coverage except negative. You are up against huge obstacles that are trying their best to thwart your work, and their methods are becoming more and more criminal with each day. You are fighting a group of people who think and act like organized crime: Perpetrate the massive crime, hide the evidence, and destroy those who persist in fighting--sometimes professionally and sometimes literally.

You are fighting belligerent officials who have power and are abusing it, either by illegal actions or misuse of legal powers. But you have brought their actions out now.

You are putting your livelihoods in jeopardy by espousing what is called a "conspiracy theory." But thanks to your work, each day, it is becoming less of a theory and more nearly a fact.

You are fighting an apathetic or complicit press that dismisses you without examining your side. But now the press is being forced to acknowledge you.

And now, some of you have been personally harassed. But there are people who want to protect you.

In the face of this, you still persist, because you know that your work is too important not to. The truth is far greater than the cowardly acts of those who are in every way small and petty. If people determinedly seek the truth, then the truth will win.

Thanks to your work, the votes in Ohio, Florida, and elsewhere WILL be investigated. No matter what happens on or before the 6th, this is not going to die until the questions are answered. It has started already in Florida, and Ohio has effectively re-created the November crime scene by the actions of officials in most counties during the attempted recount. The facts are trickling out and these events will be investigated. I would prefer that it be before January 6, but I have faith that you all are so determined to find the truth, that your efforts will continue past that day if need be.

You are not conspiracy theorists or "tinfoil-hatters." You question what is said to be established "fact" and seek proof in all matters. You do not immediately swallow every piece of information that appears to fit your case, despite what is said of you. You investigate and explore the validity of everything that comes your way, because your agenda is to find the facts. You want to be right above all else. Some people do not realize that this is about finding the facts. They attribute lesser, partisan motives to you.

But they are wrong. They are wrong and you are right. Seeking the truth is NEVER wrong.

Whatever the investigations uncover, and whenever they uncover it, you are still in the right for what you have done. You are the true HEROES, and you deserve the respect of all who claim to be patriots.

Here's to you:

:toast:


(Pessimists and naysayers, let us have another feel-good thread. It's the holiday season.)
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:21 AM
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1. Cheers!
:toast:
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Mr Grieves Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:22 AM
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2. Thanks, that does feel good. . . Cheers!
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:23 AM
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3. Amen Firespirit n/t
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:27 AM
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4. How inspirational and to-the-point! Thanks much!
We needed that! (However Jan. 6 IS our target date!)
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:31 AM
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5. You are NOT kidding!
I look at my calendar, and it's chilling. Arnebeck's team and some brave souls in Congress seem to be all that's left in order to meet that deadline, what with the hijacking of the Greens' recount. And I am sure nobody knows that better than they do.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:38 AM
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6. Cheers to you Firespirit!
and Cheers to all truth seekers! :toast:
The election is not the weeds and it is not Kerry's it is ours and since it is our election, we must reclaim it. :grouphug: Never Give Up!

:toast: thanks for the post, Firespirit! Nicely put. :toast: :thumbsup:
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starmaker Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:39 AM
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7. no vote left unrecountable
as someone earlier said its the vote stupid

check out www.chuckherrin.com who spoke at the 12/12 ralli in nc

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 03:19 PM
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33. Hi starmaker!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:41 AM
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8. I'Il be in DC on 1/6 to PERSONALLY let them know.. nt
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:46 AM
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9. Here's to you Firespirit
:yourock:

To all you DU Patriots. We will not relent in this fight. We are united, young and old, newbies and oldies, Kerry fans and bashers.

We have a common enemy. We will stand united once again.

:toast:

I dedicate this to the REALITY that we are going to win this fight. * is going to go down, and we will take our America back.

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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:46 AM
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10. Thanks for writing this, "mate"...
:toast:
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:47 AM
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11. deepest thanks, Firespirit. inspirational! n/t
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:53 AM
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12. oh, and Cheers!
:toast:


peace!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:04 AM
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13. FireSpirit, you're the greatest, thanks and you're here too, so
I say, "back at ya" ;) Takes a patriot to know a patriot eh?

Shakespeare had a character, can't remember his name, he said, "tell the truth and shame the devil." That's what we are doing. We are going to get to the truth, and tell it, shout it out loud from the roof tops if need be. Heck, I'll go door to door. Here's the thing. Last time, in 2000 I realized he stole it. Others did too. This time, we talked, we said, we think he'll at least try to steal it again and if he does, this time, we're not going quietly. We gave him four years he's a complete and utter F-up. He's failed the people, that is, we the people, the majority, on so many levels and in so many ways. Not to mention he's the worst environmental "president" ever. And this whole Marie Antoinette thing he and his people have going on is repulsive.

Anyway, FireSpirit, I am preaching to the choir but (I think it was Martin Luther King, Jr) who said never underestimate the power of the choir.

I enjoy your posts very much my friend. Cheers.
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:11 AM
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15. By the way, his name was Edward de Vere
Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 01:12 AM by BlueDog2u
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:14 AM
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16. Thanks so much, I was bothered that I couldn't remember I
was hoping someone could and would help me out here, lo and behold, there you are...with a link even. How terrific. I'll check it out. I love Shakespeare. Hamlet is my favorite.
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:23 AM
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19. Enjoy/eom
:dem:
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:38 AM
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20. Thank you!
The atmosphere in here gets a little... discouraging at times, doesn't it? Venting is great and all, but not if it interferes with people who are on the task... Myself, I'm a computer person--software engineer about to start graduate school--but as I am not privileged to have access to the Ohio Boards of Elections' networks, I've been limited to number-crunching. And e-mailing assorted lawyers.

It frightens me tremendously to contemplate 2006 and 2008 if we don't get to the bottom of this. The prospect is so disturbing that in my most terrified moments, I've even flirted with the idea of a "Patriotic Hacking Team" to infiltrate offices in competitive states and undo the computer "handiwork." Lord, I loathe these pigs for corrupting my mind. :D But they started it.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:42 AM
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32. I know what you mean FireSpirit and they did start it but we will
finish it.
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thanatonautos Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:00 AM
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21. Henry IV, Part One: Hotspur, to Glendower.
GLENDOWER

I can call spirits from the vasty deep.

HOTSPUR

Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them?

GLENDOWER

Why, I can teach you, cousin, to command
The devil.

HOTSPUR

And I can teach thee, coz, to shame the devil
By telling truth: tell truth and shame the devil.
If thou have power to raise him, bring him hither,
And I'll be sworn I have power to shame him hence.
O, while you live, tell truth and shame the devil!

And it was Shakespeare. I've got a tinfoil hat allright,
but it isn't that big. :)

Thanks to Firespirit!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:05 AM
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14.  "tell the truth and shame the devil" Ed de Vere/Shakespeare
Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 01:39 AM by texpatriot2004
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:16 AM
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17. Thank you for writing this
Firespirit says what I am not eloquent enough to do.

To all on the front lines, stay safe! Watch you backs!
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:23 AM
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18. The truth cannot set us free if it is not told...

...The truth cannot be told if it is not discovered.



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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:05 AM
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22. Very encouraging words...
And much appreciated!

It makes me want to watch this video again:
http://www.thebattleforamerica.com/

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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:12 AM
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23. You are appropriately named, if fire brings clarity, courage, &truth. n/t
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 03:57 AM
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24. heartfelt thanks
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 04:39 AM
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25. That was just awesome!
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:21 AM
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26. Thanks for the encouragement, Firespirit
I have a good feeling about where this all this is going.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 08:40 AM
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27. Thanks for reminding us
that we are not crazy.

Sometimes I wonder am I nuts or what? Why can't people see whats going on? Why doesn't anyone (except here) care about what's going on? Has a human being, I can't look at pictures of feces smeared naked bodies and not try to do something about it. I can't look at the smug face of the man who is destroying the world and not try to do something about it. And it drives me nuts when otherwise normal people think Bush is a good man. That destroying our democracy is okay as long as Bush keeps them 'safe'.

When I was a kid playing on the dunes out on LI, I got attacked by a gang of young boys who decided they want to throw me and my friend off the cliff. I started screaming and yelling as loud as I could. They said to each other, this ones making too much noise and let me go. I haven't stopped making noise since.

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:17 AM
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28. the REAL Medal of Freedom goes to....
all the brave PATRIOTS (not dissidents) working to perserve democracy!
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 09:33 AM
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29. Absolutely!
One of the key words, it seemed to me, in Mr Arnebeck's lawsuit was "well-funded", in reference to the Democratic Party's ability to investigate and sue for fraud. A lot of the heroes must be be DUers.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:18 AM
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30. We ARE Woodward and Bernstein!
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 10:32 AM
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31. Kick! You Rock!
Let the freepers read it and weep! I've sent a copy of your wonderful post to an attorney friend of mine who is working on Florida and Ohio right now. It's just the shot in the arm she needs! In the same spirit, I recommend this article for a morale boost:

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=4816
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 03:23 PM
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34. Agreed!
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 03:23 PM
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35. Kick!!
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 04:37 PM
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36. ....
This is Great~Thanks.

:toast: to DU patriots :)
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 05:18 PM
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37. Thanks Deep Throat.
:toast:
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dogindia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 05:22 PM
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38. yes. yes. yes. kick.
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