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Goldeneye

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:14 PM
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Wow, whose watching CNN

some newslady just said a third of democrats believe Bush only won because of fraud" (she then said something else that I didn't catch).

Is it just me or is that a lot of democrats.

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lancdem

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:15 PM
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1. That is a high number

Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 06:16 PM by lancdem

considering how little coverage the MSM has given this.

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DireStrike

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:16 PM
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2. That's a LOT.

But I haven't watched Corporate News Network since October.

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rockedthevoteinMA

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:16 PM
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3. would that be about 20 million??? That is a lot! n/t

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Kansas Wyatt

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Mon Dec-20-04 07:56 PM
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18. Good God Almighty!

20 million? Isn't SHRUB and his minions claiming an alleged obvious mandate with 3 million people?

Let's see using 'fuzzy' SHRUB math:

20 million people think SHRUB stole it again.

SHRUB allegedly won by 3 million, and claims that it is a clear majority and mandate.

That's it, we have a clear majority and mandate of 17 million voters that says SHRUB stole this election for a second time, and we must use our 'political capital' immediately to take back our country.

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burned

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:30 PM
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4. its growing

thats up from 20% a few weeks ago.
cnn said 60% of dems thought it was fair and square and that 1/3 said it was stolen through fraud or other means. that leaves a few that aren't sure either way?

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Fly by night

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:34 PM
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6. I think the 20% figure in the survey applied to all voters

See my comment that follows.

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burned

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:48 PM
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13. you're probably right

i got the 20% from a cnn broadcast a few weeks ago. i dont remember if it was broken up by party or not.

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Fly by night

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:31 PM
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5. Independents feel the same way

I have seen references to the same national opinion poll, and if my memory serves me, over one-third of Democrats AND over one-third of Independents believe that the election was decided by fraud. Again, if my memory serves me, over one in twelve Republicans in the same survey also believed the same thing.

I have been searching for a link to the survey but have been unable to find a printed review of the survey results anywhere. (It must have been run several weeks ago, because I heard the first references to it back then.) If anyone can provide a link to the survey results, that would be most appreciated.

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MarkusQ

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Mon Dec-20-04 07:25 PM
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14. As a Republican

I'd say 25% of us at least think something is rotten. In general, I've had more luck getting Republicans interested in the election fraud issue than Democrats. One theory I've had is that we know a lot of us didn't vote for Bush, while the Democrats can hide behind the assumption that we're all blind morons and just out voted them. Republicans have no one to attribute it to and thus have to face the rotten smell dead on. (Though I do know one Republican who won't listen to "Election Fraud Nonsense" because he knows that a lot of Democrats voted for Bush. The proof? The fact that you all lied to the pollsters, which a Republican wouldn't have done).

--MarkusQ

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rdmccur

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Mon Dec-20-04 07:46 PM
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16. That's proof???

Just Democrats lie to pollsters?
Hmmm. Has anyone did a poll on that hypothesis?
(tongue in cheek)
But thanks for admitting what you did about Republicans voting for Kerry. I can't even understand why even 1/4 of the vote went to Bush! Guess it was the TV propaganda aimed at the most ignorant part of the population (ignorance seems to be contagious in our nation).
That's about what he got (plus or minus some few precent) of the international pseudo-vote (internet). (Sorry I don't have the website.)

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MarkusQ

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Mon Dec-20-04 08:15 PM
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20. To clarify

Some Republicans (including myself) voted for Badnarik, and I know of at least one who said he wrote in John McCain (and I believe him); so not all of the ABB-Republicans voted for Kerry.

The main point is, they sure didn't vote for Bush.

--MarkusQ

P.S. For example, the guy with the T-shirt (hand made) "Pigs have wings! I just saw a Bush I didn't want." probably didn't go to all the trouble to make the shirt and then vote for him anyway.

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suziedemocrat

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Mon Dec-20-04 07:56 PM
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17. LOVED your post!

Glad to hear there are so many sane Americans out there - even Republicans!

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crispini

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Mon Dec-20-04 07:59 PM
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19. Bwahahahahaha!

Nice post Markus! Thanks! Both encouraging AND funny! :)

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pbartch

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:34 PM
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7. how many MAD Repiglicans think Bush won with help of FRAUD too?

Awful lot of mad repukes out there!!!!

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demodonkey

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:43 PM
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11. MAD Republicans INDEED! :-)

Lots of them are mad, absolutely; the way THEY think (or DON'T think!)

;-)

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caligirl

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Mon Dec-20-04 08:23 PM
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21. ran into one yesterday, he shoved his vetsforBush sticker in his

car window after honking at us as he drove up along side in his old dodge pick up. He was a young guy who must not of liked our missing a village idiot in Texas sticker alongside the Kerry sticker. My husband doesn't wear his (LT.COL)rank or vet status so we just flipped him off.

Wondering if I could find some sticker like vets who hate Bush.

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rainy

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:35 PM
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8. I was just about to post the same thing. That is amazing if you

consider no coverage. WOW,

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indigobusiness

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:40 PM
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9. !/3 believe he won by fraud, The rest know he did.

It's not much of a mystery, at this point.

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New Earth

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:42 PM
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10. lol

haha

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zeemike

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Mon Dec-20-04 06:44 PM
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12. How about the ones that did not vote?

probably most of them are laughing at us and saying "i told you so"

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pick_a_dilly

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Mon Dec-20-04 07:39 PM
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15. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE ATTACK ON XMASS!!!!!

oh my . . .

THEY want to take it away . . .

</sarcasm>

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