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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:35 PM
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How we can win by redistributing the population of dems:
We all know how many excess votes kerry got in California and New york,
at least several million. Now how about we get half of them to move to all those red states with tiny populations...say about 6 months before the election.

hell even the county I live in in California has more people than lots of these red states!!!!

Msongs
Dean Obama 2008
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cardlaw Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:37 PM
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1. Better get on it.
Distribution is based on census numbers. So we'll all need to move by 2010 for the 2012 elections!
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:39 PM
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2. What poduck backwater in Kansas are you planning on moving to?
Or, come to the Denver/Boulder area. You might find a job, it' beautiful, and us liberals are clumped together.
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ciaobox Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:46 PM
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3. Reverse that
Move 10-20 million from red states to Cal/NY. Increase our number of electors and reps and DECREASE THEIRS
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:50 PM
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4. GREAT IDEA


THere is some real TRUTH in doing this....Kings have done this many times in the past with great success......

It would take more than 6-months though before......it would have to be real migration with investment to area.....

IT WOULD ALSO WORK...and could be fully funded by us RICH BLUE STATES...and the RED STATES COULD DO NOTHING TO STOP IT.....

in fact..u could start WHOLE NEW TOWNS.....or take over DYING ONES...

NO JOKE....GREAT IDEA>...

I KNOW UNEQUIVACLLY THIS WOULD WORK IF THE POWERS OF THE DEMS DO IT........
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:46 AM
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5. Move to Ohio.

It may sound ridiculous....but to swing Ohio permanently....liberals should take over the City of Toledo and Lucas Country...

You can buyup Toledo for nothing...and buy huge .....i MEAN huge homes on the river that cost 600,000K and in Cali or NY would be way into the millions...

Also Downtown Toledo can be rehabed for nothing also, but if you could get 50,000 liberals to confirm to move to Downtown Toledo you would make a very big dent.

This needs to be well organized similiar to what the Libertarians hve been doing with their move to New Hampshire movement to make a state more libertarian.


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Wombatzu Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:05 AM
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6. just the opposite...
abandon red states as soon as is feasible...

we must ban together in population centers deeply blue and defiant.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:11 AM
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7. Yes, so they can be picked off more easily.
Judas goat.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:16 AM
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8. For crying out loud, there is no hope for ever winning a state like
Texas. If all the democrats moved out of Texas to the state like OH, it would work.
Way better than moving out of blue states into the backward state like OH.
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Wombatzu Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:25 AM
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9. bullshit
look at the map... this is not an "Oh, well, we'll get them next time" situation.

between corporate media/corporate politics and BBV, we may never have another legitimate national election. it's time to stop playing electoral and media games and start thinking about longterm strategies that ensure our freedom.

and i'm a lurker not a freeper, so keep your paranoia to yourself.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:21 AM
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10. Let's do it. If redistributed properly, it would work.
I'm serious. So long as we're stuck with the electoral college, we should play the game. Now, how would you go about organizing this exodus, and more importantly convincing people to participate?
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:36 AM
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11. Take over Toledo, OH: NO JOKE BRING 200K people here and ensure OHIO for


It would work....and I would recommend it primarily be tech oriented.... Turn downtown Toledo into a major tech hub....u could also attract alot of people from Ann Arbor/Detroit and Chicago. U can knock down a few old buildings in downtown Toledo and make a great central park effect. Downtown TOledo has already had a major boost over the past five years, a new Mud Hens Stadium, and bars etc... Also alot of warehouses are being converted to CONDOS.

Also for those want luxury...MOVE INTO THE OLD WEST END...talking huge old homes that need rehabing right next to the TOledo Museum of Art. Make it your legal residence but live in Cali...wateva... but this idea si very good. Truly take over the place..... Bring NEW DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP TOO.

CALL PETE GOZZA in TOLEDO at 419-467-6370 pgozza@downtowntoledoinc.com Downtown Toledo, 300 Madison, Suite 1510, 15th Flr., Toledo, OH 43604

LOBBY VC FUNDS IN SILICON VALLEY TO START BUSINES HERE WITH CALI/EAST COAST HEADS...fact is...if your looking for peace and focused place...u will not find a better place than here to focus and get the job done.

Because most of silicon valley and the tech economy is Democratic oriented....pick a truly depressed City like Toledo where you can buy it up and take it over.....revive life into it....and bring 50, 100K, 200K people here....NO JOKE.

This is not about u coming to Ohio to bring manufacturing jobs or anythig like..it is concious choice of saying we are moving in.......and taking over....

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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:50 PM
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12. i agree. move to where they are and outnumber them.
come south from new york, chicago, and california. we've already got a ton of californians living in nashville. and they've helped make the city a much nicer place.

fundies and wingnuts are the sort that don't like being in the minority. so when enough blue state people move to the red states, the republicans will probably up and move somewhere else.

i feel the same way about joining the republican party. if you want to destroy it, take it over from within.

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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:13 PM
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13. kick
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:17 PM
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14. Another alternative
A couple hundred thousand of us could move from red states to close states like NM, NV, CO and AZ.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 07:24 PM
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15. We don't have to go to the real red states
come join me in FL which is a blue state the last two elections except for the works of baby brother Jeb...

If Kerry had carried FL he'd be the President Elect - and the other good part of you joining me in FL - you can help me get rid of Jeb in 2006

Its really nice here....
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