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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:17 PM
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NOW ON: CSPAN--MASSIVE UPRISING - MILLIONS-- INAUGARAL PROTEST PLANS/GRPS.
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 09:44 PM by Karenca
"this administration is a disaster"
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:19 PM
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1. Thanks!
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:20 PM
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2. this sounds good! you're welcome ;0) nt
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:21 PM
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3. Everyone should go to DC on the 6th
not just on the 20th
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:27 PM
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5. yes, the 6th is the first step
do you know of any message boards with people planning for this? i want to go but i don't want to go alone, i have no idea how to find out if people from NJ are going.
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dobegrrrl Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:39 PM
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7. lots of web sites
http://www.counter-inaugural.org/
code pink
turn your back on bush
regime change

I found a bus leaving from Norfolk VA, so I am sure you will find one in NJ.
Hope to see you there.

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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:04 PM
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18. thanks
still doesn't tell me where to go to find people :(

i basically found a bus to get me there and back, but i just dont' want to go alone. i guess i'll figure something out.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:52 PM
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54. I know someone who knows someone from CA
who wants to go. Me and another would like to go but work,family and finances are an obstacle for us.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:19 PM
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67. I'll PM you--I'm from Jersey and we have a group

Cher
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:21 PM
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68. cool i just saw this
and i replied to you in another topic
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jsmacdonald Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:25 PM
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79. buses from NJ
Check the ride board at the http://www.counter-inaugural.org website, but I know of a group in southern NJ that is coming down. If you need help, please send me an email at jsmacdonald (at) riseup.net

Jim
DC Anti-War Network
http://www.dawndc.net
http://www.counter-inaugural.org
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 05:14 PM
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90. Also prior to Jan 6th MSM protest in NYC


See call to action #5--DC protest

If youre in the NYC area --i'm in NJ
UMMMmmm front page--call to action #2.


2. Picket ABC, CBS, and NBC news studios in NYC: Now until January 6th
Picket at 8:00-9:00AM, the lunch hour, and 4:00-5:00PM
Now until January 6th. MAKE A SIGN AND SHOW UP!


http://www.51capitalmarch.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?boar ...

I'm coordinating the NYC effort, got a question----
roger@51capitalmarch.com
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:21 PM
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30. i am going....
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 10:21 PM by lonestarnot
meet you at the Thomas Jefferson Memorial...look for the guys in costumes....bring a coat...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:54 PM
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77. The Jefferson Memorial! Yes! Yes! "I have sworn..."
"I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny imposed upon the mind of man." --Thomas Jefferson (inscribed around his statue in DC)

Yes! Yes! Yes! His spirit lives!
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:27 PM
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81. I'll stroll over to the Jefferson Memorial
from my office. What time?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:18 PM
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29. Bring your pitchforks all you citizens of America!
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 10:20 PM by lonestarnot
Many tactics, many messages of protest. Here's a few
BUSH IS ILLEGITIMATE AND CORRUPT!

BUSHITLER LACS DEMOCRATIC ACCOUNTABILITY!

DO NOT EXCUSE DOMESTIC STRUCTURAL ADJUSTMENT CLASS WAR

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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:25 PM
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35. BE IN DC on january 6th THATS THE DATE ..... plan now nt
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:33 AM
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105. The party in Dc starts Jan 2nd --DUDE--
If you cant make DC--Try NYC--

http://www.51capitalmarch.com/

If you cant do that-- e-mail me and we'll set up something for your home town.



roger@51capitalmarch.com
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:23 PM
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4. b*sh agenda "never-ending war" nt
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:28 PM
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6. Thanks!
:)
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:47 PM
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8. Awesome and Kick
This is great stuff on C-SPAN now.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:49 PM
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9. What is happening on C Span??
anybody.....a little info?
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:10 PM
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23. It's called "Inaugural Protest Plans"
I'm on PST and it's just ending. But I'm hoping it will be rebroadcast. Check it OUT
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:17 PM
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28. Protest Plans for the bogus inaugural.
redefeatbush.com had a press conf today. Basically they told the press what a failure they are. The end was good because the pointed out how the press take the bait on dumb, fake issues like the Rumsfeld criticizm they are feeding the MSM to keep the heat off the stolen election.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:16 PM
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64. Repeat Broadcast Scheduled for 12:29AM EST
C-SPAN Schedule

___
www.thedeanpeople.org
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:30 PM
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82. The biggest dumb, fake issue:
"Merry Christmas" vs "Happy Holidays"

They're trying to persuade us that this is a huge debate. They are really desperate for whitewash material when they have to cook up weak BS like that!

The next story down the pike is the stolen baby story. The trial will go on for years and sell millions of boxes of soap.
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:52 PM
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10. 'more people will be in washington to protest the inaugaration than to
witness the inauguaration, which will drown out any attempt to hear any speech (from the Repukes)"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:53 PM
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:56 PM
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12. hey crash-- 'BushASS IS ILLEGITIMATE AND CORRUPT" Bye-Bye!!
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 10:02 PM by Karenca
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:56 PM
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:59 PM
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16. hey crashcrew
what is Blackwell hiding? :hi: :hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:02 PM
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:09 PM
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21. Did you check out the Bush/Chimp art yet?
:hi: (if you look closely at my wave, you'll see the middle finger extended)
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:10 PM
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22. The selected Chimperor ought to be thrilled to recount!
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 10:11 PM by saracat
Think of the PR is he wins! Why doesn't he want the votes counted? He was invited to participate. Is there something wrong with counting votes?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:23 PM
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33. Chimporer! Biatch gona hear Americans!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #12
32. BushASS....
I like that. Mind if I use it sometime?:-)
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:21 PM
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31. Wow, the EVIL REPUBLICAN DICTATORS are afraid of this one.
Good stuff. We the people who see threw the BUshit crimes and stolen democracy WILL NEVER YIELD!!! NEVER - NOT OVER OUR ROTTING CORPS'S
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:42 PM
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47. Bring your pitchforks all you citizens of America!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:56 PM
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13. this is good!!!
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 09:56 PM by Faye
David Lytel from redefeatbush.com just OWNED it. talked about protesting on the 6th, and if necessary on the 20th - and flamed mainstream media for not covering any of the election fraud investigations. he's going off again. heheheh
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:58 PM
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15. I agree. Lytel is my new favorite hero!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:23 PM
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34. Plan stay 5th forward to April 17
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 12:36 AM
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72. how much you want to bet they start rounding us up b4
the sixth?
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:08 PM
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19. Lytel is FANTASTIC!!!!!
Founder of ReDefeatBush.com

There are three petitions at that website... I am on my way to sign them now.

I urge everyone to watch this program-- it is fantastic!! And check out the various photos/posters/flyers on the walls... wish I could get my hands on some of those.

If you miss it, see if CSPAN will be rebroadcasting it... it's definitely worth it.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:09 PM
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20. kick
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:12 PM
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24. yes, he rocked
i wish his forums were more recent. i feel more and more every day that i will be in D.C. on the 6th.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:16 PM
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27. Lytel ROCKS
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:37 PM
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43. Too bad we can't go to his website-- I think it's been hacked
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 10:39 PM by ailsagirl
www.redefeatbush.com

Can't get to it.

I didn't realize he started http://blog.democrats.com/history

I just went there and there's a bunch of stuff about the election:

http://www.democrats.com/

Where has he BEEN all my life??? He's wonderful
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:38 PM
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45. TRY THIS
www.RedefeatBush.com
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:44 PM
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50. THANK YOU LONESTARNOT!!
I didn't realize it was case-sensitive!!!

:)
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:13 PM
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25. Ick Freepers on now
Lamers
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:28 PM
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36. AWWW This guy is making me mad!
Are any of you listening to this freeper? He makes us all look to be some warmongers. Look who's calling the kettle black.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:29 PM
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38. TURN IT OFF
save yourself the vomit
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:29 PM
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39. They keep saying all of these "VIOLENT" left wingers! nt
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:32 PM
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41. Wow, that means in Freep language - We have Balls!!!
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:33 PM
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42. They're talkin major shit
They will be peacefully gathering and protecting our national monuments from the wicked violent lefties.

Why are these people getting air time?
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:45 PM
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51. Us: 'the dissident s who do not want what is right & good for our country"
Has half of our population been lobotomized?????
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:30 PM
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40. OMG were actually terrorists now.
Wow, sit ins, die ins are terrorist acts the Freepers claim. Oh and we also support the Palistinian suicide bombers and even want to have dinner with Osama himself! Wow Freeps, does the colon plaque come any creamier out of your mouths?
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:37 PM
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44. Yeah, that one guy from some .com site said
basically that we're enemies of the state--he said left wingers were domestic terrorists. Oh God I feel like I'm in a fascist state more and more everyday....
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:44 PM
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49. Hey! I think there's a total of 5 people in the freeper conference!
That makes me feel better...

I tried the redefeatbush.com site and got a fatal error. It's not working right now.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:58 PM
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57. help its a freeper ....were am I ? n/t
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:16 PM
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26. Be there or be imprisoned in bushitler's new world order!
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Blue Christmas Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:29 PM
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37. Five Words: "Bush Is Illegitimate and Corrupt"
My favorite part of this broadcast was when Shahid Buttar was asked to describe the crux of his message and he said, "Five words: Bush Is Illegitimate and Corrupt."

It was the best thing I've seen on TV in days... Definitely watch if you get the chance!

p.s. I will definitely be there on 1/6, faye, if that helps you decide - every little counts!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:41 PM
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46. Bring your pitchforks all you citizens of America!
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #46
48. I cannot wait.
Fuck you b*sh and all your fucking leper followers .
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:46 PM
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52. anyone have a link for a video?
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:48 PM
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53. just go to cspan.org and click on live feed cspan1
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 11:36 PM by Indiana_Dem
that's where i'm seeing it.

oh im sorry i'm watching the freepers now. i bet the previous section with the redefeat.com leader will be available under the recent shows section archive.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:14 PM
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63. Inauguration Demonstrations re-airs @ 12:30am nt
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:42 PM
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76. It's archived on C-Span's main page under "Recent Programs"...
Click on "Inauguration Ceremony Protestor Coaltion Briefing" at www.cspan.org

:hi:
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:54 PM
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55. "repukes are violently assaulted by leftists"
he said that about 10 times in the last 3 minutes.
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:56 PM
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56. 'many on the left react violently, they don't think they have to act like
the rest of our citizens do"

I can't believe what I am hearing----We are Dems, we're the PEACEFUL party!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:08 PM
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60. They're planting the meme - beware of agent provocateurs at the protest nt
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:11 PM
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61. I think you're right. This needs to be reinforced to those going. nt
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 12:46 AM
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74. Yeah - look for that idiot from WVa and his family to show up...
(racking brain) what IS that guy's name???

The one who got on camera because his daughter's shrub sign was torn up - by one of his own kids!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:04 PM
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58. Is this another "tell"? Are they getting ready to get violent, and blame
it on "us"?

Maybe the braintrust is reaching for something to go on here, and they picked up on the 1968 DNC riots, instigated by cops, by which turned enough public opinion (so we're told) against the "left" that it consolidated Nixon's win?

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:23 PM
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78. Those who voted for Nixon...
...would have voted for Nixon "riot" or no "riot." The problem was within the Dem Party, with people like me, 40 years a Dem, who refused to vote for Hubert Humphrey (a good 'ol liberal populist) because he would not disavow LBJ's slaughter in Vietnam, and because MY candidate, Robert Kennedy (antiwar) had been assassinated. I voted for Pope John XXIII that year (good pope), but I later regretted throwing my vote away. And THIS was WHY I voted for John Kerry THIS year, despite my differences with him--never to make that mistake again, and to save my country from fascism--and this time they just went and obliterated it into the electronic ether. The Dark Lords seem always to be a step ahead of us...

Yes, it was a police riot, instigated by Dem mayor of Chicago, Richard Daley. One other thing, a lot of those votes for Nixon were votes for PEACE--people sick of the Dems' war AND the tumultuous protests against it. That's what Nixon sold 'em. Peace. Or rather, "peace with honor." But some people just heard "peace." Ye, gods, what a year that was! Martin Luther King also assassinated. In the space of five years, we lost ALL of our most visionary and revered leaders.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 04:43 PM
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88. I have a box labelled '1968' with clippings, flyers, from that year
--'Be Clean for Gene'

--LBJ withdraws from the presidential nomination race

--MLK killed, army units held in reserve in DC in case of riots (my brother was in a group called up from Ft Knox.......from what I remember being told; or was this when JFK was killed????)

--Robert killed in CA the nite he won the CA primary

--police riots in Chicago at dem convention

--that same week, Soviet tanks roll into Czechoslovakia and end the 'Prague Spring'

And personal life: my husband, nearly finished with his PhD, is called up twice for pre-induction physical but for some reason is never drafted and then he turns 26 in May and can no longer be drafted......the education deferment was abolished in the fall of 67; many grad students in the sciences were in constant communication with the national professional societies (as we were)

and then we moved from CA to IA, and my brother was sent to Vietnam
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #78
98. Thank you so much for that personal/historical post. It really
added to my sense of that time.
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:07 PM
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59. 'i refuse to have my mind poisoned by
Michael Moore's treasonous propaganda. MM is an enemy of this country"

Could you believe these assholes?????
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:11 PM
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62. 'don't support the violence'
I haven't heard a word about violence until this 9 person 'hearing'.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:17 PM
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65. Exactly. It's like they're looking for a fight
That will be all the fault of the left.

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FreeCajun Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:55 PM
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112. They're gonna start shooting and pin it on us.
:argh:
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:17 PM
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66. Repeat Broadcast Scheduled for 12:29AM EST
C-SPAN Schedule

___
www.thedeanpeople.org
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:33 PM
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69. Let's just hope there is no 'terrorist' attack there that day....
Wouldn't put it past some folks...Diversion is their aversion.
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:43 PM
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70. there is the key..
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 11:44 PM by alexisfree
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 12:31 AM
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71. its on now again nt
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 12:45 AM
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73. Just about to post that.
:)
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:39 AM
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75. i hope a lot of people all over the country were watching this
i mean, i think a lot of people watch CSPAN who might have had no idea about the Fraud, or at least didnt' realize how many other people were following the investigations, etc. NOW THEY KNOW!

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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:25 PM
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80. if 500,000 showed up in NYC for the RNC, then plenty will show up.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:32 PM
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83. Thankful for the Internet!
Unlimited power to reach millions of people, to get organized and updated on all issues. Also thankful for this site.
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jsmacdonald Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:33 PM
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84. clarifications on the info in this press conference
ReDefeatBush is helping to support a wide range of actions in DC that day.

Please keep that in mind; this isn't like one of those mobilizations where you go to one action. You go to one, and then you go to another...that's been the discussions we've been having with David Lytel and other groups interested in the logistics. David's big action is a ball, though he has secured those other permits. He is also advertising in support of the large anti-war rally and march going on that morning.

There are other actions being planned right on the parade route.

It's very confusing, so if you have any questions, please ask.

Jim
http://www.counter-inaugural.org
http://www.dawndc.net
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 04:13 PM
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85. I just saw the archived video from C-Span
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 05:02 PM by 8_year_nightmare
&, unfortunately, David Lytel wasn't included on it.

I thought all the speakers were impressive, particularly the coalition's female lawyer whose first name is Moira. At the conclusion of the press conference, she was approached by 4 reporters who had additional questions.

The first speaker named Brian Becker said everything in a nutshell. I transcribed (not perfectly) most of his remarks:


The Bush administration’s invasion & occupation of Iraq has violated a contravention of legal standards & international law, the Geneva convention, the Nuremburg code, the UN charter.

(snip)

It’s an illegal adventure & a direct form of economic theft (by) Halliburton who is making mega profits financed by taxpayers to the tune of $270million each day for the occupation of Iraq.

(snip)

A recent announcement in the NYTimes stated that 4,000 educators would be laid off in Detroit because of a budget deficit of $198 million that could not be met -- equivalent of 14 hours of fighting in Iraq. Priorities for society should be to pay for teachers so students can learn, rebuild schools, provide uninsured people with healthcare, provide housing for the homeless, give workers who are losing their benefits a decent pension & decent benefits. The money that is earned by workers in this country is being looted by the government in order to finance a war of agression abroad & this war, not coincidentally, benefits the corporations & banks that are closest to George Bush, & that would be all of them.

Those banks & corporations have formed together to give more than $40 million in donations to the presidential inaugural committee -- a private organization, not a public organization, not a governmental organization. The pick is a Who’s Who of the Fortune 500 -- (each paying $250,000) to have unfettered access to PA Avenue on January 20th.

The ANSWER coalition, representing all those people in the United States who are fed up & tired with the war in Iraq, the assault on economic & social rights, civil rights & civil liberties at home, applied for permits to demonstrate at the site of the inauguration all along PA Avenue between 3rd Street & 15th Street eleven months ago.

(snip)

We knew that the people of the United States would want to come out on January 20th -- a day that really belongs to everyone -- & reflect the massive opposition that still exists, & we believe that is growing, in opposition to the war in Iraq. We applied for permits at Freedom Plaza at 14th Street & PA Avenue. We applied for permits at the Navy Memorial at 17th Street & PA Avenue. We applied for permits on the sidewalks in front of the Justice Department & the FBI Building between 9th & 10th Street on PA Avenue. We applied for permits on Pershing Park, which is between 14th & 15th Street on PA Avenue. And we applied for sidewalk space so that those who represented a view other than that promoted by the Bush administration would have an opportunity to come to PA Avenue & exercise their First Amendment right to speak out.

<…>One of the most despicable aspects of this administration is the unremitting & cynical use of the term national security as a pretext to carry out an assault against free speech rights in the First Amendment in the United States. At the Republican Convention, they tried to relegate protests to the far edges of Manhattan, almost in the Hudson River. At different campaign appearances all around the country, whenever George Bush spoke, the Secret Service was there acting as a proxy under the pretext of national security to screen the crowd & make sure there would be no signs that said “get out of Iraq” or “money for jobs & education & housing, not war”.

January 20, 2005 is shaping up to be the next battle, free speech battle, whereby the Bush administration, working through the National Park Service, the Interior Department, & with Secret Service,is illegally & constitutionally trying to deprive the ANSWER coalition & others from the public who wish to voice their anti-war opinion from gathering together on Pennsylvania Avenue on the parade route, on what the White House website describes as “America’s Mainstreet.”

We have just been informed prior to this news conference & after a meeting with the National Park Service that took place on Monday, December 13th, that any fact that the National Park Service, on behalf of the Presidential Inauguration Committee -- again, a private committee representing the banks & corporations -- is effectively moving to deny the right of the ANSWER coalition & others to gather together in anti-war protest at Freedom Plaza at the Navy Memorial Yard, on the sidewalks in front of the Justice Department & the FBI Building, & in almost all of the sidewalk areas between 3rd Street & 15th Street along Pennsylvania Avenue.

(snip)

He concluded the press conference with, essentially, “We will not allow Pennsylvania Avenue to become privatized (by the wealthy & the corporations).”
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 04:14 PM
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86. so they cut out David Lytel?????
wtf??????????????????
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jsmacdonald Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 04:18 PM
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87. That was ANSWER's press conference...this was counter-inaugural.org
There were two press conferences. ANSWER had one to announce their event. http://www.counter-inaugural.org and the coalition of groups with that had another to talk about the substance of protesting on January 20 and to pave the way for talking about all the many actions going on in DC on January 20 (that press conference will be in early January, though most of the actions are already online at that website)

I've been criticized for explaining the politics of what's happening in DC on these forums, but to understand what's happening, you sort of have to understand them. There has to be another feed...that's the wrong link to the press conference people here are talking about.

Jim
DC Anti-War Network

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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 05:02 PM
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89. Good to know, Jim. Thanks.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:13 PM
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96. no, what i watched with David Lytel wasn't ANSWER
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 07:14 PM by Faye
i saw that one too.

nevermind, i think you meant to reply to 8_year_nightmare
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 05:19 PM
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91. Here's the C-Span link for Lytel's press conference...
http://www.cspan.org/search/basic.asp?ResultStart=1&ResultCount=10&BasicQueryText=David+Lytel

Sorry for the earlier confusion, Faye -- I wasn't aware that Lytel's press conference was a separate one.
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Ice4Clark Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 05:42 PM
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92. For some reason, the link to the archived video is NOT working.
Says it can't be found on that server.......I really wanted to see this. Damn. All the other recent videos seem to be working!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 06:12 PM
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93. Same here.
Hopefully, it's just temporary, but if it doesn't open later on when I try again, I'll send C-Span a note.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:04 PM
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94. want working earlier today either but Freeper story was...
...ill email them too, i think someone is doing it deliberately. Hope it isnt CSPAN, but Im still worried about them since they canceled the second Conyers hearing without warning.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 07:10 PM
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95. email sent to CSPAN asking why this video keeps being unavailable...
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 07:11 PM by McCamy Taylor
...when the Freeper video works just fine. Suggest anyone else who cant access it send them an email too.

In the meantime, since it appears that I will never get to see this on CSPAN does anyone have another link?
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Ice4Clark Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:24 PM
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97. I've emailed cspan so many times in the past and only get a
canned reply. So, just may have to phone them. Emailing is useless, unless someone out here has a better email addy. Seems very odd that all the other videos on that particular server are opening just fine. I'm thinking they either pulled the clip? or changed the file name.
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jsmacdonald Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:14 AM
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101. has the link been found yet?
???
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:55 AM
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103. delete
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 09:56 AM by McCamy Taylor
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:19 AM
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99. I sent mine, too, McCamy. :)
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The Judged Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:56 AM
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100. "All WE are saying is give peace a chance."
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:48 AM
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102. video still doesnt work, must have been disabled, please post an alt
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:57 AM
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104. spoke to real human being at CSPAN, she says they will fix it, will see
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:46 AM
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106. video STILL down, Freepers video still works, can others call CSPAN?
How on earth can we organize protests if the message about how, when and why can not even get out over the internet? Also, is there some way to make a back up of the press conference for when the video doesnt work, since it sounds like the conference was a valuable resource? I am not sure that we should rely on CSPAN.
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jsmacdonald Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:08 PM
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107. any luck yet?
Thanks for the hard work you are doing. I don't think the DC Media Collective that put this together is even aware of the situation. So, you are really helping them a lot through your persistence, and I'll be sure to let them know.

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:19 PM
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108. thanks, i check periodically and i still doesnt work, i smell a rat...
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 01:21 PM by McCamy Taylor
..maybe the collective can put this up at a different site rather than trusting CSPAN. I think that CSPAN shot the second COnyers hearing in the foot, telling everyone they would broadcast it later that Monday at 430 pm est so that no one bothered to broadcast it live and then backing out of their promise after the fact. Now, they are pretending to give this one coverage but actually sitting on it so no one can see it. I am beginning to think that the Bushies are in control of CSPAN too.

And of course, people who look for this video will see the Freeper one above it, will click on that and find it works just fine and if they dont know better they may sit through that one and think that they have seen the "protest" video they heard about.

A big stinking rat.
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Obviousman Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:25 PM
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109. I might be heading down there
I hope I can
William Donohue
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:30 PM
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110. McCamy gets ugly this is the e-mail I sent CSPAN
Two days ago you had two press conferences, one by David Lytell about a legitimate counter inaugural protest and the other about a Free Republic pseudo protest. Since then, you have had video of the two press conferences “available” in your archives, side by side. I put the word “available” in quotes because I and my friends have been unable to watch the Lytel video, which never seems to work, even though we have emailed and telephoned you multiple times. Strangely, the Free Republic “protest” video immediately above this one works just fine.

If I were a suspicious person, I would wonder if someone intended that people who had heard about the Lytel protest press conference and who came to your site in order to see it, would instead find the Free Republic press conference, watch some or all of it, assume that they had seen the other press conference and then leave your site, none the wiser.

If this is not your intention, then I suggest that you fix your video feed.

Thank you for you time. The organizers of the press conference are being informed about video problems. You may be hearing from them.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:39 PM
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111. working link is now up, yeah!
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