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kerry2win Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 12:41 PM
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anyone else get this email from Kerry
http://volunteer.johnkerry.com/profile/new got this dec. 23rd late in day, thanking me for signing up...I did that before election. After seeing the post "Kerry likely to unconcede" should I read anything into this???
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 12:49 PM
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1. lots of us got them....
then we got the one asking us to donate phone cards for the soldiers.

they must have been testing the system....
or it was a signal from our leader...I personally like this reason better! LOL
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hinachan Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:06 PM
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2. Screw phone cards for the soldiers!
How about ADEQUATE ARMOR for the soldiers? Or FOOD gift cards for the NEEDY HERE AT HOME?!?
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:57 PM
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11. O.M.G.
Why don't you do a little research into what Kerry HAS DONE in ref to armor for the soldiers. Sorry, but I have just a tad bit of compassion for those that are serving, many against their will. I find that attitude to be very callous. These soldiers may never see their families again EVER.

Merry Christmas indeed. :puke:
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 03:35 PM
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12. I think it's the least the phone co. could do
to allow the soldiers to phone home. For Free. They could limit the time. Why is it always up to liberals to spend their own money in republican camps for this stuff?
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 03:49 PM
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14. I hear ya
Why isn't the phone company stepping up to Support the Troops? Good question.

So many talk about supporting the troops, but have no concept of what that means. Instead of buying that 9.95 Chinese magnet for their SUV and shouting to the world how much they "Support the Troops," they could actually use that money to make a difference.

So, as liberals, we quietly work to the soldiers the equipment, armor, health care, support etc. that they need, while we carry the label of unpatriotic because we dare to question their Commander in Chief.







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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:15 PM
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24. How about arm leg hand eye finger donations?
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MissBrooks Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:32 PM
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6. I got one too...
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 05:52 PM
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19. Phone cards would be a great idea.
Then you can tell your children just how fradulent this election was.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 12:27 PM
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45. i was a fla delegate and only got the phone card email!!
i only got the phone card email...even though i donated alot to the post election gelec fund...and was a super volunteer..or what they called a super volunteer...i wouldnt read much into that..seriously...
and i had the kerry field rep for my area of fla living with me..i just called him and he knows of nothing about this..he did not get it either!! and he ususally gets every up to the moment stuff!!
fly
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 12:32 PM
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46. I got three- one for the phone card and two for the Kerry Edwards campaign
I figured someone must have pushed the wrong button (twice) on the second message which appeared to be something they sent prior to Nov. 2. I thought it was a bit odd, but didn't read into it as some sort of "pre-Monday test" (regarding tomorrow's filing). However, although emotionally of course, I like that possible explanation much better. There's no contest when choosing between "email blast/computer glitch" or strategy for an un-concede blast!

With that said, I am also doing my best not to get my hopes up too high because regardless of what manifests tomorrow with the Kerry filing, we have a long road ahead of us. (and yet, I am smiling in anticipation nonetheless!)
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:16 PM
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3. I got that one too.
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mousie Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 01:13 PM
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50. same here! n/t
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:29 PM
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4. Kerry's Concession Was And Remains Strategic
Happy holidays! The Kerry concession was the first salvo in a well conceived firing pattern of misdirection. If you look at the money raised by his GELAC (General Election Legal And Compliance) Fund, he knew as soon as the "results" were in that he'd need most if not all of the recount money he raised and a few weeks to get a handle on how to prove that he actually won.

During that time, the website remained active with 90% of the original content (excluding the blog) still there. Starting roughly a month after the election, he began the legal process of insisting that each vote count and that each vote be counted. However, he allowed his attorneys and surrogates to do most of the speaking for him. This was to force the Republicans to keep their firewall of misinformation and echo chamber in hot standby mode for as long as possible.

As soon as he unconcedes, all hell will break loose, and I mean that literally.

The other responses in this thread are correct that the "thank you" email was a test. The phone card message was genuine and, in my opinion, very appropriate. However, the gloves are about to come off.

To answer your question then, don't read too much into his messages but take them as more cryptic signals that the sleeping lion is about to wake.

Hakuna Matata!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:44 PM
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9. Oh yes!!!! Hakuna Matata is right. HIstory will be made for sure.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 01:25 PM
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51. I hope
what you 'know' is true.

I've been waiting for 4 years for all hell to break loose. I would like to get it over with and face the consequences. Then there's that big mess Bush has made of things that we'll have to clean up, so I like to get this over with before the chimp does any more damage.

Hakuna Matata

PBWY
DYEW

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:32 PM
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5. Merry Christmas
Can you say President Kerry? Somehow I think he has the goods on bush boy.


:bounce:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:36 PM
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7. Agreed! And I'll "second" it..."President Kerry." Kerry New Year to all!
n/t
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noclonyofthechimp Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:37 PM
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8. Started in another thread a day or two ago. Thread is below
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kerry2win Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 01:47 PM
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10. thanks merry christmas
was not around here last few days ...digging out and catching up on pushed back work from storm...Keep hope alive as Jesse would say
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:18 PM
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25. Beginning to think this a roll call Tenhut troop thang....
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 03:36 PM
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13. I haven't gotten any email from Kerry in several weeks
not since right after Nov. 2
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 04:06 PM
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15. I got ONLY the phone card message.
Never the other one. Is that strange? I did contact his brother immediately following the election because I experienced the vote jump thing and what was probably meant to be intimidation, but I'm not very easily intimidated and most people seem to sense that about me and not even bother trying. Did they just assume that because I contacted his brother I would want to give money to the troops? I do want to do this, but I'm not sure if responding through that message is the best way to do it. The USO is of course a legit organization, but I'm still being cautious about the possibility that there are freepers out there with an agenda to rip of the liberal poor guy for questioning their "Godlike hero!" I will be happy to give once I am assured Kerry is indeed behind all this. I do believe, but making SURE has always served me well.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:19 PM
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26. NO MONETARY donations until I have a demonstration of a need for
my hard earned money.
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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:22 PM
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27. Only received the "phone card" message dated 12/23/04....
Edited on Sat Dec-25-04 07:24 PM by coreystone
at 4:35 PM (I live in the Eastern Time Zone - at least that's what my friends say) ;-)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 04:29 PM
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16. I also only got the phone card message.
Edited on Sat Dec-25-04 05:12 PM by Patsy Stone
I've been wondering where this other email is, since I too have been on the list since before the election. I also signed the education petition, so I wonder how much that had to do with which I received.

I think you should read into this that the list is a very valuable resource and they are seeing if it is still valid. Are they going to put out a "call to arms" is another question entirely. Believe me, if they do, I'll go.

Peace.

edited for a typo -- because I can't type.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 05:03 PM
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17. President Kerry, Sir!
Reporting for duty, Sir!

Right beside you Patsy!

:hi:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 05:12 PM
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18. Bring it On! n/t :)
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 06:33 PM
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20. I got both
I thought the first one was odd, although a few days before I had watched the video, and signed up on the site for the child thing, so I thought maybe that was why. Then I got the 2nd one. I chose to think of it as them saying "Kerry/Edwards" is still here...
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:05 PM
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21. Well now I'm confused.
Edited on Sat Dec-25-04 07:06 PM by Patsy Stone
I hope they still love me, 'cuz I still love them. :loveya:
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:13 PM
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23. I only received the phone card message
I don't know what is up with the other message. :shrug: I am not reading too much into it though.

I never received the no child left behind e-mail either, and I was a contributor. Thanks to DU, I know that I will be on the up and up with what is going on.

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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:27 PM
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28. A Verry Kerry Christmas, seito!
Yes, DU rocks! :yourock:
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:35 PM
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31. Right back at ya gal
Thanks for your post. I needed that, cuz I'm steamin just a bit :grr:

Here's wishing YOU very Merry Kerry Christmas :toast:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:12 PM
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22. Yes I received the same email.
Is this more encripted mail or what?
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:31 PM
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29. Am I the only one that finds the attitude of some DUers disturbing???
Do you have misplaced animosity????

WTF is wrong with John Kerry asking supporters to donate money to the USO so that soldiers may call their families over the holidays.

Those of you making insensitive comments, have you ever served? Have you ever been forced to leave your family and go to live in some god forsaken land where people are trying to kill you? Do you think that the kids that enlist in the armed service do it because they want to kill???? :wtf:

Soldiers are just regular people. Most of them come from homes where service in the military is their only ticket to any hope of a better life. Many joined before * turned this country into the global disgrace that it has become. Do you understand that these soldiers enlist for 8 years. Now that they have enacted stop loss, even after their service obligation expires, they can not get out.

So, in light of that, I think that the very least we can do is let them phone home. Is that too much? Take your distaste for John Kerry elsewhere because what he is doing is a good thing.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 09:57 PM
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32. Seito, I do, too
But I'm new here, so what do I know? I have a nephew in the army who is headed to Iraq in March. He said everyone in the military he talked to was hoping for a "regime change". He also said "we shouldn't be there, we should be in Afghanistan". My heart breaks for him, his young wife and their new baby. He's going there cause it's his duty, not because he wants to, and he's scared. Phone calls home are real expensive, and he doesn't make a lot of them. He's just a KID.

I am so happy to have found DU because I'd been watching these crooks for the last couple of years in disbelief, and it was great to find like-minded people. I guess I'm pretty much an optimist, and sometimes I can't believe the negativity toward the guy most of us voted for for President. It always seems like he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't. Unless I'm in his shoes, I wouldn't even try to make the calls for him, because it's a very sophisticated crime machine he's taking on (IMO). I think he's playing it the only way he can.

By the way - how long is one considered a newbie here?

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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 10:00 PM
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33. till they get tombstoned
Edited on Sat Dec-25-04 10:00 PM by Faye
JUST KIDDING! :hi:

well i think a newbie is just that, new. i'm still a newbie. i think anyone within the past month or two would still be considered a newbie. post count doesn't really mean sh*t either way, it's the quality (or lack therof) of the posts that count.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 10:05 PM
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34. LMAO
Ain't it the truth though...lol

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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 10:17 PM
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35. Hi Laurab
I really appreciated your post. It almost made me cry. I know what these soldiers are going through because I have been there. I am really sorry that your nephew has to go to Iraq. The morale in the military is low and getting lower. It is even worse for the Reserves and National Guard.

As to your question on newbies, I think Faye hit it right on the head. It is more a matter of time than post count. It is a matter of quality, not quantity. I have lurked here at DU since the election. I joined on Veterans Day and consider myself a newbie. There are a lot of people here that joined after the election. It has been a great mix of therapy and activism.

As for John Kerry, no matter what he does, it will not be enough in some people's minds. I have never known a man to be so villafied by his "supporters" I feel that I know him well and I trust his judgment. Regardless of what happens in the upcoming months, he will have my support and my trust.
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 10:29 PM
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36. I don't have any qualms about donating to the soldiers.
However, I specifically remember a report saying that packages being delivered on USO convoys to US soldiers were not getting through and were being stolen by insurgents. This report was about two weeks ago. I haven't been able to locate it or the source of it yet, but I am going to try. I would hate to find out that the only person using my phone card was using it to call OBL headquarters! I know that's a stretch, just using a little sarcasm to get my point accross.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 10:39 PM
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38. No, you're certainly not the only one.
Edited on Sat Dec-25-04 10:40 PM by whometense
I was pretty surprised to see some of the reactions here.

I had heard about the request for phone card donations elsewhere and was thinking of donating, but when Kerry's email arrived it motivated me to jump to it. I think it was a lovely idea - to do a good deed and also concretely demonstrate that dems support the troops too! And put some muscle behind Kerry as well. ;-)
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kerry2win Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:42 AM
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42. ????? the post refers to hope Kerry will unconcede
not phone cards????
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:35 PM
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30. I received only the phone card email
And I had signed up at Kerry's website months ago last summer.

There was a blurb on Fox news tonight, appx 7:15pm, about people being sent the phone card email. It tied into an easy way for candidates to re-use email lists for future needs. Whatever that means :)
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 10:31 PM
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37.  I wonder what kind of emails the freepers are getting?
Faux news is th biggest * propagand machine of them all. Anyone know a freeper who'd be willing to share?
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dalloway Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 10:49 PM
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39. I sent a donation for phone cards in honor of Kerry
used his Senate address.

I think if the sh** hits the fan, it'll be good to have been doing work like this to support the troops so that Bushco can't use that criticism against him.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 10:54 PM
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40. I got the one about phone cards
Surprised me. I hadn't gotten anything from them since the election.
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BlueStateBlue Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 11:40 PM
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41. I got the same message. Hmmmmm.....
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dandrhesse Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 10:57 AM
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43. no I didn't get that one but got two others
I got one that said "thank you for signing up" which I didn't do on that day, I had previously, probably 6 months previously. I also got one about the USO program for sending greetings to soldiers overseas. My thinking was that they called up all that had volunteered and sent the second email and something or someone triggered the other email unintentionally.
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 12:17 PM
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44. LOL, I received one too...
Why don't they have a campaign asking people to send clean underwear to Iraq? Dunno, the phonecard thing sounds so lame to me...
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 12:38 PM
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47. Guess it helps the kids to phone home over the holidays
I suspect it is more valuable than clean underwear. Speaking from personal experience, I can tell you I racked up several hundred dollars in phone bills when I was stationed overseas. You can not imagine how lonely it gets. :cry:
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 12:48 PM
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48. Hmmm, perhaps you are right... But he voted FOR the war after all...
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 12:48 PM by valis
So, something sounds a little odd here...
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 01:04 PM
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49. I found this article to be very insightful
The trial of John Kerry by William Rivers Pitt

http://www.truthout.com/docs_03/121003A.shtml

?This was the hardest vote I have ever had to cast in my entire career,? Kerry said. ?I voted for the resolution to get the inspectors in there, period. Remember, for seven and a half years we were destroying weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. In fact, we found more stuff there than we thought we would. After that came those four years when there was no intelligence available about what was happening over there. I believed we needed to get the weapons inspectors back in. I believed Bush needed this resolution in order to get the U.N. to put the inspectors back in there. The only way to get the inspectors back in was to present Bush with the ability to threaten force legitimately. That?s what I voted for.?

?The way Powell, Eagleberger, Scowcroft, and the others were talking at the time,? continued Kerry, ?I felt confident that Bush would work with the international community. I took the President at his word. We were told that any course would lead through the United Nations, and that war would be an absolute last resort. Many people I am close with, both Democrats and Republicans, who are also close to Bush told me unequivocally that no decisions had been made about the course of action. Bush hadn?t yet been hijacked by Wolfowitz, Perle, Cheney and that whole crew. Did I think Bush was going to charge unilaterally into war? No. Did I think he would make such an incredible mess of the situation? No. Am I angry about it? You?re God damned right I am. I chose to believe the President of the United States. That was a terrible mistake.?
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 01:46 PM
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52. I read that, thanks. I think soldiers abroad should have free phone cards
as part of the deal... It's probably the simplest and cheapest way to keep up morale...
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 01:54 PM
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53. I totally agree
then again, they should be properly equipped, have adequate training, armor for their vehicles, reasonable deployment times etc. The bottom line is that * & Co is sh*tting all over them.

To them the lives of these kids means nothing, let alone their morale.
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