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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:19 PM
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God damn the electoral college system to hell!
this whole state by state bullhockey is making my gut implode! kerry should start an initiative to make things be based on the popular vote.
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andyhappy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:20 PM
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1. Testified!
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:21 PM
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2. Can i get an Amen?? nt
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doubleplusgood Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:22 PM
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3. Amen !
...from an atheist !
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:23 PM
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5. amen from another atheist. The EC absofuckinlutely SUCKS!
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saccheradi Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:23 PM
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4. AAAAAAMMMMMMEEEENNN!|
and a hellelujah to that. shitty system... grumble...
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Cicero Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:24 PM
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6. It would take a constitutional amendment
...and there's no way in hell that you could get enough small states to sign into it in order to pass the 38-total state threshold.

Later,
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:34 PM
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12. 2/3 states have to sign on to the idea...I forget what the
Congress numbers have to be. But I say go for it anyway...it's only logical. No matter who wins, we should work to abolish the electoral college. Otherwise the people get disillusioned with casting votes (rightly or wrongly)

EV is completely ANTEDILUVIAN in this instant communications era!
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Cicero Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:40 PM
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13. No, 2/3 of Congress has to support. Three quarters of the states...
..also have to sign on.

It ain't going to happen, even if we have another popular vote goes to A, electoral vote goes to B situation.

Later,
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:46 PM
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16. Thanks for clearing that up. I know most people say it could
never happen........but I STILL push for it. I'm firm on that.

Best, SB :hi:
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:24 PM
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7. Will you still be saying that if Bush wins the popular vote?
and Kerry wins the election.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:25 PM
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8. If Kerry wins the EC while losing the PV, he just might be able to do that
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:26 PM
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9. Sorry, I like the electoral college
I just wish more states were not winner take all.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:27 PM
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10. that's the whole point, though. winner. takes. all. nt
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Cicero Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:41 PM
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15. No requirement that states be winner take all, though.
Could do it like Maine (per district), or what Colorado wants to do (proportional allocation).

Later,
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:33 PM
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11. I hate it too. But it makes it fun to watch
Watching returns certainly wouldn't be nearly as much fun if there were just a national count.
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Chesterton Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:40 PM
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14. yeah, this state thing makes it exciting
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:46 PM
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17. Kerry is behind in the pop. vote by a million! (nt)
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:55 PM
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18. Here's what it would take to abolish the EC overnight!
If Kerry wins the EC vote while Chimp wins (I mean, steals!) the popular vote. The Repugs in Congress would call a special session the next day and vote to trash the EC faster than you can say, "Payback's a bitch!"
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:56 PM
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19. Okay, but what if
the popular vote is won by Shrub? and the electoral college by Kerry? Wouldn't it be great to say for the next 4 (8) years, gee sorry, it is our turn???
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Cicero Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 09:20 PM
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20. kick
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Days Between Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 09:20 PM
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21. I don't care
which way he wins; just win!

Then we can talk about more sane policy. As long as fucking pnac is in charge, we're going to spend all of our time fighting for civil liberties what we've won, the hard way, in this country. We'll spend our time keeping those assholes from... you know the rest.

Go Johnny, go!
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