Call to action - who's willing to work with me on this?

This is a new post in reference to another post I started about having a general strike if no Senators contest the election. The consensus was that it was a good idea but not enough people to make it effective. So forget about the general strike, but I believe that we need to start talking to people at a grassroots level to educate them about the election fraud issue.

How do we reach out to people?

If we look at it as a simple marketing strategy it becomes easier.

For instance, one simple slogan that everybody uses. Can anybody come up with something clever? There are the orange ribbons, but how many people actually know what this means and isn't for the Ukraine? It should sound proactive and not reactionary. Something that is not a personal attack against the current administration. Something that appeals to peoples' sense of fairness. Something that even republicans would have to admit is an issue that concerns them as well.

Flyers should be made that talk about specific instances of voter disenfranchisement as well as possible criminal activity. This should also have a web address of a single source where people can go to find out what is happening on a day to day basis. There are tons of web pages and organizations out there, so keeping it to just one keeps it simple as well as unified. Obviously we don't have that in place, but is there one that someone can recommend? Can the folks who run the DU website start a link to this specific issue?

This flyer should also contain information about how to contact their representatives and it should be tailored to to the specific targeted district and who exactly represents that district. And since people are basically lazy, how about having preprinted postcards that all they have to do is sign it and throw it in the mailbox.

Something should be handed out after contact has been made such as a button, bumper sticker, or poster to hang in a window to show support and has athe abovnebtioned web site address.

And furthermore, ask these people if they agree that this is an important issue and if so would they be willing to spread the word to at least three other people they know.

Who is up to this challenge? I am a graphic designer and I state right now that I'm willing to design a flyer that I can send to you as a pdf that you can download and print out. I can also design a postcard and window flyer.

Are there people in this forum willing to talk to just at least three neighbors over the weekend? How about all New Year's Eve parties? While it may not seem like much, at least it's a start.

If you give me your ideas about slogans and what specific information we should address, I can have a flyer for you by this evening.

NGU.

(kickin' it up)

NGU.

more overtly neutral "Do you know if your vote counted?" Or, as I had in my signature line for weeks, "Do you know where you vote is tonight?"

"Did your vote count?"

(Questions are good because they move people to answer them reflexibly, imo.)

So, maybe there should be two slogans: one for "in house" and one for general consumption?

...the wrong way. WHAT ARE THEY HIDING? can apply to lots of people without pointing the finger directly at one, and has lots of legs, conceivably extending to a whole plethora of secrets like Abu Ghraib and Cheney**'s energy task force, as well as electoral fraud.

NGU.

What Are They Hiding?

Hey CW :hi: Happy New Year

What ARE they hiding??

(I misspelled reflexively... <LOL>)

NGU.

purple magnetic ribbon that reads. .

"One Nation. . .Under Fraud."

But why purple? Just curious.

but really, it's what you get when you combine red and blue. I can't stand the simplistic dualistic catagorization of America as two dimensional when our true strength was born of our infinate diversity.

Election fraud may seem good for the pukes now but it has destroyed our system of checks and balances which stabilized our country for centuries. It'll untimately be bad for both parties and our nation.

Symbolically, purple respresents transmutation and is very spiritual. Our country needs less religion and more true spirituality. IMHO

andy rooney on sun suggested an institute of professors to study problems and make recs said they would be too smart for either party

NGU.

Blue seems to be "our" color this year. :)

a while ago about a cornflower blue one that read "bring them home." It was really nice but I tried to track it down and ended up lost in "patriotic" magnetic ribbon land and I got really disoriented.

The guy who runs this site was offering to customize ribbons for no extra charge. He posts here as well.

http://watchingthewatchers.org/

stickers / wristbands, etc.

We're not helping anyone using cheap foreign materials.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2887639

Why are we so eager to support this trade deficit?

Why am I having trouble hitting the post button? I don't want to discourage activism but this deserves attention. If anyone should know how the trade deficit is also a problem, it's us.

Love supporting communist made Bush paraphernalia and propaganda. But anyone who supports and promotes American made products are communists & 'terrists' according to BushBots.

:hi:

:toast:

1. Try this

Sell Black Armbands to be worn for Jan6th. Given what occur in Asia
it will also express the people sympathy for the victims of the tsunami and the Americans opinion of his response in this time of Global calaminity.

also represent the dead of democracy
the freedom to vote
the dead of US world leadership

Just give them many choice to select from as long as they beleive he is not a good president and join in the effort.

What you need is a massive show of support on that day.

but the popular thing are those little rubber bracelets.

How 'bout orange bracelets, imprinted with the cut-out words, "What are they hiding?"

Problem is that there needs to be accounting if you're going to sell them. The money, minus cost, should obviously go toward the recount. Who do we give it to? The Glibs? I mean, since they need money for attorney fees and court costs.

just cover cost be ok

but just covering the cost is OK, too.

Just a thought.

I looked into them before, even got a sample one mailed to me. The thing is, the set up costs are fairly high - around $1000 minimum for the set-up charge and the first run of bracelets, and that would only be for 500 bracelets. The cost per goes down with higher quantities, but you have to pay for everything up front.

And while you're doing that I will go to some other web pages and research some verifiable information.

Any ideas on the best source for this? I'm going to start with the Free Press.

That's proactive, and should appeal to everyone's sense of fairness. It also has the advantage of being a quote from Ronald Reagan ("Trust but Verify").

For your flyer, how about pulling out a few egregious events from Ohio and Florida--things documented--and using a "FACT:_______" construction.

Or your theme for the flyer could be "The Perfect Crime?" (a la Mark Crispin Miller's 11/16 essay http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/1692/ )

Or maybe a theme taking off on Sinclair Lewis' "It Can't Happen Here" but add a question mark, or a subtitle like "(Can It?)"

Just brainstorming here.

KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID

As part of the "educated elite" we tend to over think and be too obtuse.

We should take a page from the GOP playbook and use BUSH CHEATED. It should be our Sore Loserman because we need to KISS. In addition BUSH CHEATED covers every type of election fraud, suppression, tabulation fraud, ballot box stuffing, etc.

We need to reach lots of people and a large portion of those people are geographically easy to communicate with. In my pre election GOTV street canvassing activities I had no problem figuring out where the likely dem voters were (urban and campus areas, integrated or minority neighborhoods) and I was able to use guerrilla marketing, ie. posting bills to reach people even when I was not there. I use 3M Super 77 spray adhesive from Staples to glue them to metal utility poles, bus stop shelters, new paper racks, and phone booths in urban/campus areas where our base congregates.

Go to http://somnamblst.tripod.com to download high res flyer files to print. BUSH CHEATED is color but can be printed B&W to save $$$. It prints 2 to a page so you will have to cut it. The link for more info is http://stolenelection.org a very easy URL to remember.









This one has been in place at a grocery store for 3 weeks, want to guess how many people have seen it?

But you must understand the profile of your target
That message be too strong for lots of people
How many people be brave enough to carry that message

If you wish to have millions showing their support then you must understand their mindset

You need a strategy to target the support of the majority of the American people a message they are comfortable with.

Your message is for the frontline supporter... the marchers... the brave soul who is willing to go the extra mile

While many will support you they wont cross the line... and that where the majority of the people are.... you need to targeted them
Make it easy for them to join in the protest give them a good reason that they can also associate it

hackles up and they get defensive and less willing to keep an open mind.

I'm not totally against subversive action, however, the mainstream public needs to know election fraud is not just a crime perpetrated towards the losers but rather every single voter in this country.

There is alo a sense of guilt with this because who wants to willingly abet such a crime?

To bash them with look how foolish you are will never work.. But saying things like please just look into this make your own conclusions. You are a good man i know you want truth. if there is truth here the investigation will prove it. People respond very well to this.

I'm glad you didn't give up yesterday and that you decided to keep trying. It just takes time!

Sore Loserman, the Miami Dade Brooks Brother riot, the "Get out of Cheney's House" thugs.

You do not have the time or the manpower to disseminate black armbands or orange bracelets. A lot of people will have no idea what the black armbands, or the orange bracelets mean and will not care to ask.

Obviously when I glue BUSH CHEATED bystanders see me as I do it in broad daylight. The bystanders were not the educated elites we liberals who frequent lefty web sites interact with in our daily lives. The OPs (ordinary people) who witnessed my vandalism were very appreciative of this information. They immediately understood what had happened and needed no 1000 word polemic to be convinced. They intuitively knew they/we had been robbed. This is the vast majority of peopel who voted for Kerry. Look at the income stats on Kerry voters vs. Bush. They are the working poor, they are the minorities whose votes were suppressed who we need to be the face of the racist GOP suppression tactics. If 20% believe the election was stolen then only a fraction of kerry's supporters on Nov. 2 have been informed.

KitKat, this is a great idea--I agree we need to work hard to spread the message via grassroots and guerilla tactics, since the MSM aren't carrying any water on this.

The tricky part is creating a message that will have lasting impact and relevance as this situation continues to evolve and more information becomes available. It also has to be extremely clear and self-explanatory in as few words as possible, i.e. the KISS principle. Some of the ones others have suggested in this thread ("What are they hiding?" and "Trust but verify") are short but will not make sense to people who have little or no awareness of the election fraud situation. "One nation under fraud" is clever, but again, I worry that it might be too obscure for those who haven't been following this as we have. I think that "Bush Cheated" is the best suggestion so far, though this kind of aggressive, pull-no-punches allegation may be so strong that it risks pushing people away immediately before we engage their interest and curiosity.

I think that we need to have a message that opens people's eyes to how our democracy is being systematically subverted and dismantled.

I'll think about it a bit and throw out some ideas shortly.

we need to distribute some sort of flyer. I remember back in the 70's there were these tiny Christian pamphlets. They were EVERYWHERE. About palm size. We need something like this. And we need to put them EVERYWHERE. Buses, restaurants, theaters, supermarkets, EVERYWHERE. I recently saw an interview with Jackson. The issue being voting machines. The interviewer said something to the effect of.. Blackwell said he placed them based on past years. Jackson responded with the registration was up. This is NOT GOOD enough. He needs to let people know the number of machines was reduced. We cannot keep on with our talking points. Things that make sense to us will not make sense to others, who do not know all the info. The more people we expose the more people we have shouting with us if and when it comes to this. Sorry to go on. : /

once we have it presented to public
will the public respond

until then we the 20% remain the 20%

The NeoCons are so good at using that to their advantage like the "Patriot Act" which is anything but.

http://www.chuckherrin.com/ConservativeEmpathy.htm

http://www.chuckherrin.com/LiberalEmpathy.htm

They are written by a Republican who only wants an honest official in the WH : )

I'm a big fan of the "put yourself in the other guys shoes", and this does it well. Passed it along to those on my email group. Thanks for the links.

I'm very pleased with all your ideas and enthusiasm.

Thanks Mordarlar. I will check out the websites you suggest.

In the meantime I'm asking for cited verifiable facts to present in a flyer

I really like the

FACT:

idea.

and please don't forget we need to back these up with how we know these things and where our targeted audience can find it as well. Include the URL

I'm still perusing the Free Press for nuggets but still need some help putting the various evidence into a cohesive simply stated form.

I did this to make the results comrehensive on another board. I have no mind at all for math. Took me a horribly long time to "get" this become able to explain it. it is crutial that it is easily understandable. otherwise people will skim the info and disreguard it. I think the maps are soo crutial. I liked this one.... Hell i still don't understand a lot of the charts :P

>>>The information supports that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the amount of voters after the times reported to change the percentage to the degree that it did. The main argument i have heard is that dems voted rep. This makes no difference. The numbers no matter who voted for who cannot support the change to the percentages. I did it myself and it is true.

for example: assume that there are 94 total people voting at 7:00

Lets assume the total % of votes (out of the 7:00 total ) is 40% Joe while his opponent Jim has 60% This gives the total votes Joe at 7:00, 37.6 votes out of 94 votes. This leaves 56.4 votes out of 94 for Jim.

Now at 10:00 the number of total voters has gone up to 100. 6 more voters.

Lets assume that Joe has now taken the lead. We will say he now has 55% and Jim has gone down to 45%. As 55% of 100 is 55 and 45 % is 45 we know Joe and Jim's total voters are Joe 55 and Jim 45.

Now this is up from 7:00's total votes of 37.6 total votes Joe had earlier by 17.4 votes.

Now we have established that there were only 6 voters between 7:00 and 10:00. How can a vote total go up more points then there are voters??

Unless as we can see Jims votes total illogically went down. He has 56.4 total votes at 7:00 but only has 45 at 10:00.

I guess impossible is a strong word. Impossible no. Honest and legitimate? look for yourself.

7:00 voter total 94

Joe 37.6 40% of total
Jim 56.4 60% of total

10:00 voter total 100 (6 people have voted since 7:00)

Joe 55 55% of total
Jim 45 45% of total

Between 7:00 and 10:00

Joe has gained 17.4 votes
Jim has gained -11.4 votes<<<

It really illustrates the problem in a way that just knocks your socks off.

has to be simple, simple, simple but conclusive. ;-)

(no matter how rough) draft, email it to me & I can work on it this pm.

Great thread,
Beth

Not One **** Dime Day

Since our religious leaders will not speak out against the war in Iraq, since our political leaders don't have the moral courage to oppose it, Inauguration Day, Thursday, January 20th, 2005 is "Not One **** Dime Day" in America.

On "Not One **** Dime Day" those who oppose what is happening in our name in Iraq can speak up with a 24-hour national boycott of all forms of consumer spending. During "Not One **** Dime Day" please don't spend money. Not one **** dime for gasoline. Not one **** dime for necessities or for impulse purchases.

Not one **** dime for anything for 24 hours.

On "Not One **** Dime Day," please boycott. Please don't go to the mall or the local convenience store. Please don't buy any fast food (or any groceries at all for that matter). For 24 hours, please do what you can to shut the retail economy down.

The object is simple. Remind the people in power that the war in Iraq is immoral and illegal; that they are responsible for starting it and that it is their responsibility to stop it. Not One **** Dime Day" is to remind them, too, that they work for the people of the United States of America, not for the international corporations and K Street lobbyists who represent the corporations and funnel cash into American politics.

Not One *** Dime Day" is about supporting the troops. The politicians put the troops in harm's way. Now 1,200 brave young Americans and (some estimate) 100,000 Iraqis have died. The politicians owe our troops a plan -- a way to come home.

There's no rally to attend. No marching to do. No left or right wing agenda to rant about. On "Not One **** Dime Day" you take action by doing nothing. You open your mouth by keeping your wallet closed. For 24 hours, nothing gets spent, not one **** dime, to remind our religious leaders and our politicians of their moral responsibility to end the war in Iraq and give America back to the people.

Please share this email with as many people as possible.

I created my own bumperstickers for self and friends with that one.

I figured it was a challenge that any legally elected person could fulfill.

PJ

It's true and it's to the point. So what if it offends the Bush voters? They don't care about offending us.

F*** 'em.

BUSH CHEATED. All she wrote.

Even if we do not prevail we will have cast a permanent pall on the legitimacy of his presidency. Don't think they would not do the same to our candidate. Revember the Swift Liars and say FUCK EM!

And I got more because I'm a dirty dog dem and I fight dirty:

Go to http://somnamblst.tripod.com to download high res files for printing.

FACT: Nationwide, 80% of our votes are counted by 2 private companies, Diebold and ES&S. These two companies are connected by two brothers, Bob Urosevich (president of Diebold Election Systems) and Todd Urosevich (vice president of ES&S). (1)

FACT: The owner of Diebold Warren O’Dell is on record in 2003 pledging his commitment “to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president".(2)  

FACT: Five of the managers, software developers and designers who work for Diebold are convicted felons, and Jeff Dean, one of the Senior Vice Presidents, has been convicted of embezzlement. (3)

FACT: In the last few years, Diebold's leadership has donated over a quarter million dollars to political causes, and 100% went to the Republican Party.(4) 

FACT: ES&S also has strong financial ties to the Republican party. Nebraska senator Chuck Hagel (Rep) was CEO of of ES&S up to 2 weeks before he won his seat in a "surprising" upset!(5) 

FACT: Diebold's Vote Tabulation Software (GEMS) is so poorly designed that any election official, poll worker, company insider, or Hacker activist can easily add, modify, or delete hundreds of thousands of votes using Microsoft Office without leaving a trace.(6)

Fact: Internal memos from Diebold reveal they know about people changing vote databases using this back door, and their own internal memos reveal that they know about elections officials in at least one county that are "Famous for it". (King County, WA).(7) 

FACT: Diebold claims it’s too difficult to make their voting machines "reliably" produce a paper trail, in spite of the fact that this company makes ATM machines and EVERY ATM produces at least 2 pieces of paper with every transaction(12) Without paper trails a legitimate recount is virtually impossible.

FACT: Republican Congressman Peter King was caught on video with President Bush before the results came in on election day, saying "It's over!  The election's over - we won.  It's all over but the counting, and we'll take care of the counting."(8)



1) Electronic Voting
Two voting companies & two brothers will count 80 percent of U.S. election using both scanners & touchscreens
By Lynn Landes
Online Journal Contributing Writer 
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

2) CNN Money web site
The trouble with e-voting
Political concerns have held back shares of Diebold, which makes touch screen voting machines.
August 30, 2004: 12:40 PM EDT
By Paul R. La Monica, CNN/Money senior writer
http://money.cnn.com/2004/08/30/technology/election_diebold/?cnn=yes  

3) WIred News
Con Job at Diebold Subsidiary
Associated Press
10:05 AM Dec. 17, 2003 PT
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html
The entry has a smaller subplot specifically involving Jeffrey Dean, who wrote and maintained proprietary code used to count hundreds of thousands of votes when he was senior vice president of Global Election Systems, or GES. Diebold purchased GES in January 2002. “According to a public court document released before GES hired him, Dean served time in a Washington state correctional facility for stealing money and tampering with computer files in a scheme that ‘involved a high degree of sophistication and planning.’”

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf
and Jeff Dean, one of the Senior Vice Presidents, has been convicted of embezzlement. In case no. 89-1-04034-1 he was convicted of 23 Felony counts of Theft in the First Degree for installing back doors in software and using "a high degree of sophistication to avoid detection.”- (Scoop, Bev Harris: Embezzler Programmed System To Connect Ballots To Voter - http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0312/S00191.htm)

This tale doesn’t end here. Dean claims the reason for the embezzlement was that he needed the money "in order to pay blackmail over a fight he was involved in, in which a person died." BlackBoxVoting.org's associate director Andy Stephenson obtained the court records of Jeffrey Dean which noted that the King County, Washington prosecutor was after him for over $500,000 in restitution. King County, Washington has been the epicenter of a bitterly contested battle for the Governorship between Democrat Christine Gregoireand Republican Dino Rossi.

4) Scoop, Diebold - The Face Of Modern Ballot Tampering by Faun Otter http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0211/S00081.htm
Many contributions to current Ohio politicians!

5) CommonDreams.org
"If You Want To Win An Election, Just Control The Voting Machines" by Thom Hartmann
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0131-01.htm

6) www.chuckherrin.com/hackthevote.htm . Herrin, a computer security expert, used to work as a computer consultant for an undisclosed bank with offices in Greensboro. Very interesting web site from a self-described conservative.

7)  http://scdc.sccs.swarthmore.edu/diebold/ Allows you to download a pdf of internal memos from Diebold.

8) http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/.Movies/peterking.mov

Thanks to mordarlar for pointing me in to the Chuck Herrin website. That's where I got all this information and I spent a lot of time trying to put it into bullet form, check the references, and not totally plagiarize this smart, smart man's website.

the handout was two column. On one side it would have the examples of the fraud/"irregularities" that happened in the Ukraine, and on the other side a similar example with the name of the county in the US where the complaint has been documented. At the bottom it could have details about the support/$ spent by the US to assure a fair election in the Ukraine, and the roadblocks put up by the different agencies here.
The reason I suggest this is, I was home one day from work and caught a committee meeting on CSpan about the Ukraine situation.It occurred to me that the names could be changed for the places, and the story would apply to us. It really had a big impact on me, even though I've been following this story very closely. A headline could be something like "What's the Difference?". Somewhere on the sheet, I'd love to see What are they hiding? I just love that phrase. I ordered 100 bumper stickers today with that on it, and I can't wait to get them and pass them out. I got the idea from this thread earlier today:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=211057
Reasonable prices IMO

Being a dreamer, I haven't given it much thought. The nice thing about sending out updated flyers is that those that want to do it can go to their friendly neighborhood Kinkos and make copies. OR maybe their make copies at work if their bosses don't mind.

I would happily spend my own money for printable postcards to hand out.

PAPER TRAIL VOTING

FOCUS ON VERIFIED VOTING.......NOT BUSH

Fahrenheit 911 type impact. I had suggested a while ago that the political action groups like Moveon and other 527's should put together some adcampaigns, along the lines of "Do you know if your vote counted?" But it's almost too late at this point since there is no MSM coverage at all. However if that changes on Jan6th(let's hope), and there will be coverage, I hope that some of these groups have their ducks in "attack" row!