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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:47 PM Original message |
"It would be political suicide for a Dem Senator to contest the election." |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. OR |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I dun't ged it? |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. I don't get this either. Are they trying to tell us to give up? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
93. I think they're trying to say the evidence isn't there "yet" and it's |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:13 PM Response to Reply #93 |
115. IF the evidence was there, Kerry's lawyers would be... |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 08:07 AM Response to Reply #25 |
213. Yes they are- Ed Schultz is a Rove opporative. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #213 |
215. AGREED! |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 10:30 AM Response to Reply #215 |
241. Ed Schultz listeners gave $30,000 to WA recount. Here's snip & link! |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #213 |
240. He urged his listeners to support the recount in WA State....they gave |
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electropop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 10:45 AM Response to Reply #213 |
245. I've asked XM to dump Schultz |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
162. If a senator contests, he will have to answer |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. It will be political suicide if they don't |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Even if a Senator contests the election it doesn't mean that anything will |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. Same could be said of Martin Luther King's crossing the Selma bridge. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
94. Yea, but the media and rightous indignation were on our side in such |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 07:20 PM Response to Reply #94 |
226. I'm African American and I don't recall the media |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. One thing is pretty sure, |
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liam97 (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. sometimes |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Deleted message |
yojon (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
73. and suicide if they dont.. |
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KerryReallyWon (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. Agree, we fight the good fight, it is time for them to stand up for us... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
44. Tell that to Ken Salazar |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
63. I agree! |
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Left coast liberal (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
112. Right on! And, THAT's what Ed should be saying! N/T |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:54 PM Response to Reply #63 |
125. Hitler owed a lot of his "accomplishments" to the upperclass, |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #125 |
173. actually... |
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pauldp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
64. Here, here. Who's gonna be a patriot or a complicit criminal? n/t |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:04 PM Response to Reply #64 |
80. Time for Harry Reid to stop taking dancing lessons... and |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
140. Aren't they gunning for the Democratic Senator from Fla.? |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #140 |
177. ohh they will be!! |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #177 |
191. I called his office the other day |
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electropop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
246. Exactly. |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. Depressing indeed, |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
6. BS |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. A D might win, but not necessarilly the D that contests the election. |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 11:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
248. Puhlleeeeze. |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. Who cares? |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
9. given the shift in the wind since Nov. 2 |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
11. Baloney |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. It's not necessarilly about California, it's about how he/she will be |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
76. She wont get anything done in the Senate. NT |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:14 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. Truman01 and mzmolly: |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. I'd like for them to be taken seriously period. |
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sepia_steel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:31 PM Response to Reply #97 |
121. If Democrats aren't serious about standing up for OUR RIGHTS |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #121 |
131. I understand where your coming from. But suppose for a moment you |
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sepia_steel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #131 |
138. Yes, it is. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 11:51 PM Response to Reply #138 |
147. Who feels they don't give a shit? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 10:29 AM Response to Reply #131 |
156. Are you denying that the Ohio incidents amounted to vote suppression |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 12:51 PM Response to Reply #156 |
161. Nope. |
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roenyc (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #131 |
176. They need to stand up for black Americans everywhere |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. It's *poor* Americans actually. |
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Eye_on_prize (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #76 |
135. you mean her esteemed colleagues would ostracize her? for having backbone |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #76 |
185. Do any of them get anything done |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
181. i say the same for corzine of n.j. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
12. Why? There Are Enough Irregularities & Crimes Before & Since Election |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. An investigation is taking place regardless. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. By Congressional Committe With Subpeona Power? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
92. No by the GAO. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
15. Fast forward 2 years from now. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I fully agree. But, if in two years fraud is actually disproven, he/she |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Not in my opinion. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
96. That's certainly one way of looking at it. |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
117. It might not be right, but you find me somebody who has been... |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:55 PM Response to Reply #117 |
126. How about Cynthia McKinney? Or Dennis Kucinich? Or |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 11:34 PM Response to Reply #126 |
143. What did they do? What are they doing now? |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #126 |
183. cynthia mckinney |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 07:01 PM Response to Reply #183 |
224. I thought she just made an outrageous accusation with no proof to back... |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #224 |
233. ISTRIKER AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.. |
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Eye_on_prize (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:34 PM Response to Reply #117 |
137. Eugene McCarthy, Robert F. Kennedy, Wayne Morse, Robert Byrd |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 11:35 PM Response to Reply #137 |
144. When was this? What did they do? Give me an example. |
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Eye_on_prize (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 08:33 PM Response to Reply #144 |
196. McCarthy and Rob't Kennedy stood up against Viet Nam war, declared |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #196 |
225. I think you're correct about McCarthy, Kennedy. Don't know... |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 07:30 PM Response to Reply #196 |
227. Eye_on_prize you are once again right on the money! |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
164. Funny typo mzmolly |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #164 |
168. ROTFLMAO. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 10:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
157. My gut tells me that this is a coopt post. |
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regularjoe (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
17. Perhaps we should say "they would be politically murdered." |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Good point. |
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keepthemhonest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
18. I keep seeing |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Again we need absolute proof though. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Absolute Proof? Do You Need Absolute Proof To Investigate A Crime? |
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Chipper Chat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. Seems like I remember before Watergate broke... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
90. Of course not. But the January 6th deadline is not about an investigation |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
118. No, but you need "absolute proof" to challenge an election... |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
107. Where have you been; there's documentation of fraud in Ohio, Florida,N.M. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
61. You're absolutely right. |
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keepthemhonest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 10:11 AM Response to Reply #61 |
152. Definately |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 12:20 PM Response to Reply #152 |
218. And "almost impossible" |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
95. keepthemhonest: You are absolutely right, |
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keepthemhonest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 10:17 AM Response to Reply #95 |
154. Exactly |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
19. hardly political suicide |
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sepia_steel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
122. AND I'D CONTRIBUTE TOO!! |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
163. For House members it's very different |
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Chimpanzee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
20. Their political futures will be over if they don't do something fast |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
24. Well, considering the * admin can do anything |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
26. Whats wrong with standing up for democracy? |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
47. if they don't stand up, they will become ever more insignificant |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. To repeat myself, every damn Dem Senator should stand up with Conyers |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
83. I agree... For example, what if a foreign operative... |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
228. Yes! They MUST all stand or they are spineless wonders |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. Not one who loves his country more than his job? Not one? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. That's what my husband just said. |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. Yup. |
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nymd81 (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
29. I've been saying |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
31. I suppose that is why Kerry has stayed away |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
98. Malva Zebrina, are you familiar with the Election Fraud evidence? |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:03 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Yes I am |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:02 PM Response to Reply #104 |
114. This is not just about Kerry! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:16 PM Response to Reply #114 |
133. I agree with every word you said except *January 6th* is do or die. |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:23 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. and the media isn't going to come around on their own |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 11:49 PM Response to Reply #134 |
146. Were not saying and or doing nothing. The GAO is investigating TODAY. |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
32. Lautenberg from NJ was already retired. He only came back to fill in for |
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fearnobush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
67. Dems are over if they do not contest. GOP will just steal over and over |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Most def. I remember when Frank did this. I think he just might have the |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
119. If you are correct, why hasn't the GOP stolen everything already? |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
36. My senators, Clinton and Schumer, are "ineffective" anyway.... |
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roenyc (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
187. never happen. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 08:54 PM Response to Reply #187 |
199. He's not a senator; just plays one on TV. |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
37. This is the spin... |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
108. Well said - they should all stand. And moderate Republicans need to stand |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
38. Democrats are staying the course: compromise, appeasement, capitulation, |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
110. Vichy Dems will be loathed throughout history. Along with the collaborator |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
39. In other words, sit down in the back of the bus and say nothing |
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liam97 (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. agree, if standing up for an investigation called |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. You have to ask, what's the PURPOSE of their political career? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
40. So, it's more important to keep your job than to do what's right? |
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Chipper Chat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
41. Does that mean if Barack Obama signs on.. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. I don't think Obama will be sworn in yet... |
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Eye_on_prize (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
142. someone on another string said new Senators being sworn in Jan 4th - n/t |
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k8conant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
167. Yes he will...on Monday, January 3 |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
45. They should pull a "Spartacus" and every damn one of them should stand up |
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The Judged (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 02:48 AM Response to Reply #45 |
205. Nobody has to stand up. They just need to sign the damn objection! |
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nmoliver (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
46. maybe not just POLITICAL suicide ... |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
48. "...without unequivocal evidence of fraud..." ?? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 07:40 AM Response to Reply #48 |
211. While I agree, I think it's a matter of perception. How many people |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
49. "Political suicide"??? |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
85. Senators. SenatorS! |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #85 |
100. Yes, it is very easy. |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
54. Really silly; widespread fraud is fully documented; and dangerous not to |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. If Congress contests the elction and investigates, I think Kerry will win |
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pauldp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:46 PM Response to Reply #54 |
69. Thanks for the synopsis! Bookmarked it. n/t |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
132. Send it on to the Senate. |
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ItsTheMediaStupid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
56. If you're not doing anything, you might as well be dead |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
59. It'll be far worse than 'political suicide' for those who don't join... |
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SueZhope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
60. if the tables were turned |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
62. The Senate is all about procedure as safeguard against abuse. |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. Exactly |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
65. Oh give me the person who would |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:05 PM Response to Reply #65 |
130. Ya know, I agree. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
66. Ed Shultz can kiss my off-white ass. |
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Chipper Chat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
68. The tsunami disaster came along at the right time.. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
70. Might be "suicide assassination" a favorite Bush cabal tactic... |
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GettysbergII (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
71. Political suicide? |
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FULL_METAL_HAT (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. If the DNP fails we'll be playing "jaihouse rock" at our party :( |
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sunnystarr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:59 PM Response to Reply #71 |
128. Is it the old or the new senate who will deal with this on 1/06? |
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GettysbergII (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:45 PM Response to Reply #128 |
141. I'm pretty sure its the new senate |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
74. "political suicide" to have Integrity? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:55 PM Response to Reply #74 |
101. The problem is that not everyone believes there was "massive fraud" |
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AmerDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:26 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. back to the main argument |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #101 |
116. So? They can be educated |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:58 PM Response to Reply #116 |
127. Why on earth would you think confronting fraud worries me? |
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berniew1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #101 |
223. The widespread fraud is documented down to precinct and machine level |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
78. Time to send our Senators JFK's book: "Profiles in Courage" |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
79. Why are we talking about |
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Annus Horribilis (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
81. I Don't Buy That |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #81 |
120. Yes. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #81 |
166. I think Byrd may lose anyway |
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KnowerOfLogic (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
82. I'm sick and tired of hearing about what is or isn't 'political suicide;' |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #82 |
171. I agree. I think the issue really is that most Senators don't know if |
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KnowerOfLogic (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 04:07 PM Response to Reply #171 |
192. Maybe; i don't know. it's sad if *we* have to lead *them,* though; |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. Conyers and others are leading. But I do understand your point. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
84. Yeah and Ed also said that BLOGGERS should be STOPPED! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. I don't think he has a hidden agenda. I just think he's coming from a |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #84 |
165. Ed Schultz is entitled to his opinion |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 10:15 AM Response to Reply #84 |
216. Sounds like Limbaugh...The doper dude...That was almost more than |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #84 |
242. He urged his listeners to support WA State Recount! $30,000 was donated |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
86. And what is their JOB if not to speak out on our behalf, exactly? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:55 PM Response to Reply #86 |
111. damn straight AND how come repubs can pretty much do anything |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 03:54 AM Response to Reply #111 |
207. And another thing... |
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mdb (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
87. Voted out by who? The very same system they should be contesting? n/t |
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electric-eye (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
89. People would rally to a Dem with guts enough to stand be counted |
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Kashka-Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
99. well we have unequivocable proof that recount not conducted lawfully! |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
102. Help! Congressional Briefing on Vote Fraud in Ohio - FAX to Senators! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 11:58 PM Response to Reply #102 |
150. Thanks IndyOp |
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zapped 1 (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
103. not true |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
105. I think the Senators and Reps should at least ask for a full |
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insane_cratic_gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
109. Any Blue State Won't do this! |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
113. Conyers said today that he is sure he will have several Senators! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:59 PM Response to Reply #113 |
129. I sure hope he's right! |
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IndyPriest (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:36 PM Response to Reply #129 |
139. OK, msmolly: time to put up -- |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 11:53 PM Response to Reply #139 |
148. I totally agree Conyers is telling the truth. I don't dispute that there |
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lthuedk (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
123. Fuck a spineless party. |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:42 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. The Greens may see a tremendous influx of active members soon |
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righteous1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #124 |
153. Don't you think that's been their plan all along? BTW I agree |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #153 |
159. yup. David Cobb is going to be in Minnesota next week |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #123 |
172. The so called "spineless" are THE reason fraud is being investigated. |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
136. Senator Byrd is the only WTF senator who has the cajones |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 11:56 PM Response to Reply #136 |
149. I tend to agree. |
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buddysmellgood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
145. To not contest is to watch democracy die. We need courage in the senate. |
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nickdw (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
151. too little too late, or the reverse? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
155. Listened to Ed Shultz regularly for a period. He continually avoided |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #155 |
222. I don't think Schultz is truly liberal- |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
158. Maybe we need to stress the CIVIL RIGHTS abuses |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #158 |
174. EXCELLENT POINT! |
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roenyc (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:24 PM Response to Reply #158 |
178. just posted this up there but not as nice! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #178 |
180. For the poor American of any color actually. |
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roenyc (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #180 |
186. same here. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #158 |
182. I wonder what the constitution lays out in regard to contesting an |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #182 |
188. There was a thread about this weeks ago; the constitution provides that |
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NicRic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
160. What happen to doing whats right ,let the chips fall... |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
169. what difference will it make?? |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
170. Lautenberg, Hollings, Edwards, maybe even Campbell... |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #170 |
175. And Byrd. |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
184. I really think it could change by Thursday |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #184 |
189. I like the way you think! |
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marcologico (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 01:01 AM Response to Reply #189 |
201. hey thanks! |
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DemonFighterLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
190. Ed Schulz loves his job |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #190 |
194. Ya know I agree with your later point: |
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DemonFighterLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. Thanks mzmolly |
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Niche (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
197. It will be suicide to them IF THEY DON'T! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 08:52 PM Response to Reply #197 |
198. And Dobson is threatening to take out Dems if they "don't fall in line" |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 01:19 AM Response to Reply #197 |
202. I'm hearing this a lot. I keep wondering if they get this, that we aren't |
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SicTransit (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 02:58 AM Response to Reply #202 |
206. I am always curious when I see someone say this |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 09:52 PM Response to Reply #206 |
229. I am not sure what I am going to do. I just know that unless they |
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SicTransit (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #229 |
230. My perspective is that Democrats |
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Amaryllis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 11:43 PM Response to Reply #230 |
234. And that is where we have a major difference of opinion. Those of |
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SicTransit (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 08:08 AM Response to Reply #234 |
238. Yes, read it all. It is all conjectures and innuendoes, with |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #202 |
221. Afraid not- just watched the panel discussion on c-span called |
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thebigdonkey (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
200. I disagree |
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Shalom (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
203. What's Wrong With Political Suicide For Justice and America ? nt |
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The Judged (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
204. Better to be voted out than Diebolded or Tabulated out! Ensure the vote! |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 04:22 AM Response to Original message |
208. Sorry Molly. Ed Shultz is a bit of an ass. |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
209. He is full of crap. It would be suicide NOT to contest. |
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forintegrity (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
210. I'm voting out anyone who DOESN'T contest! |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 07:43 AM Response to Reply #210 |
212. I am certain any Dem who believes the election was stolen will contest |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
214. SEE WILL PITTS TAKE ON THIS HERE: |
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Boswells_Johnson (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
217. By refusing to stand up, they're illustrating what is wrong with the |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #217 |
219. "The Right Thing" is very subjective. |
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Smirking_Chimp (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
220. Thats what separates men from boys. |
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bush_is_wacko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
231. If a Senators CAREER is more important than our CONSTITUTION, |
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AmericanErrorist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
232. I would not mind if the Dems went down at this point. |
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GetTheRightVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
235. Hello All Duers, Just a few comments |
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AmericanErrorist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 02:10 AM Response to Reply #235 |
236. Because It's the only game in town, that's why. |
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The Judged (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 03:22 AM Response to Original message |
237. Political suicide for a DLC Senator, not for a DNC Senator! |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
239. Who is Ed Schultz, and why should I care? |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #239 |
244. $30,000 given by his listeners for WA Recount is pretty good! At his |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #244 |
247. It's political suicide not to contest the Ohio election. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-05 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
243. He is absolutely correct |
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