Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Settling once and for all the validity of the EXIT POLL SAMPLE

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU
 
Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:12 AM
Original message
Settling once and for all the validity of the EXIT POLL SAMPLE
Sorry to toot my own horn here, but with althecat's exit poll data, we can determine whether the national poll sample was good or not. Here's the idea that came to me on this thread (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=214701):

The poll is for the House and the Presidential races.

The House race doesn't break it down into Congressional districts, so it can't be used to validate individual House races. BUT, if we get the total votes cast for all House candidates, and break it down by region in the same way the poll did, we can prove whether it was a good sample. "The sample was bad" seems to be the main defense against the exit polls, and up to now we haven't been able to disprove that.

Conyers' people have the data, as do the CASE Ohio folks.

Any insiders from either group here? If so, and if you can spill this, are they already doing such an analysis?

If not...

It should be done. And I volunteer to help do it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:24 AM
Response to Original message
1. Great idea
kick :kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:33 AM
Response to Original message
2. If it was a biased sample wouldn't this also show up in the
senate and governor exit polls (I know this does not cover all states but many of the key ones)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:40 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. I am thinking it would be everywhere.
If the same people were polled. Which, by all accounts, was true.

This is really a gift; it has such a huge sample size (>13,000) that standard sampling error is pretty much insignificant. It covers the entire U.S. And it includes a second race -- the overall Congressional vote -- that can validate the Presidential race. What's more, everyone had a House contest on the ballot, which was not the situation with Senate and Governor races. I mean, this is a friggin' gold mine.

If the same people were polled, then what's good for one is good for the other.

To be honest, I'm hoping somebody with Conyers or CASEOhio will say that they're already doing this. I don't want to waste my time duplicating their work.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:44 AM
Response to Original message
4. Breakthrough.You have the Firespirit. I'll leave that one to you.
Go get that mutha.

Put those naysays out of their misery.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:57 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. OK, consider me on it
It's a lot of grunt work, gathering the results, but nothing too error-prone or tricky.

Can't promise when this will be done, but I'm shooting for early Monday.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
missouri dem 2 Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:58 AM
Response to Original message
6. Great concept and method to prove that the exit polls were right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:34 AM
Response to Original message
7. Exit polls I think were done by few people.
I wondered what the women was doing and finally asked what her job was and she told me. So I took it.No one else did while I was in the room to vote and I stopped at the tables they had with information and food. I do not know any one else that voted there that did. They told me they did not know they took an exit poll at that place. Also my answer was values as my values said I could not vote for Bush. To me it put all the things like jobs and wars in line.I just do not think it means what the news keeps saying.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:46 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. How would you classify the precinct where you live?
Is it mostly REP or DEM? Is the population in your precinct representative of other precincts in your county? Or does it lean further right or left of the other precincts?

I'm trying to collect a list of precincts that the polling was done at to see if there was a bias in how they picked precincts. Thanks.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 10:24 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC