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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:33 PM
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News from the Columbus OHIO Rally this afternoon
Just got home from the Rainbow Coalition rally featuring Jesse Jackson, Tubbs and others at the Riffe Center in Columbus Ohio.

The important things for me to pass on to you are these:

They asked us to go to the Progressive Democrats web page
www.pdamerica.org

and go to the Action Alert page which is this
http://capwiz.com/pdamerica/mail/oneclick_compose/?alertid=6770366

you can compose a message that will be passed on to

Russell Feingold, Senator

Patrick Leahy, Senator

Tom Harkin, Senator

Patty Murray, Senator

Richard Durbin, Senator

John F Kerry, Senator

They asked us to go to call the Senate Hotline at 202/224-3121
to ask them to investigate the vote. “Light up those boards!” they said.

Points of note:

Cobb, Tubbs, Fitrakis, Arnebeck and Jackson all spoke most of it saying that this is one of the most important times in our history, that we can’t let something like this go - not now, not ever. There is beauty in the struggle. Jesse listed all the voting irregularities that we pretty much now know by heart now. There are other rallies in San Francisco and somewhere else I now forget (sorry) that are being held to show their support for our fight in Ohio. I was hoping Fitrakis and Arnebeck would give some hot, juicy, updated news on the investigation front but it was more like outraged rhetoric from Fitrakis - hmmm, I’m wondering if he plans on running for office someday.

Dagmar Celeste, former first lady of Ohio (husband was governor in the 70s) spoke of her experience with voter fraud. For some reason they lost badly in the Toledo area which then was home of Diebold. Go figure.

Ohio senator, Teresa Fedor, said that this was an extremely important issue and hoped that her colleagues on the Hill will find the courage to stand up. Too bad she’s not a U.S. senator, eh? I believe she’s the one that said a huge spotlight needs to be shone on this because that’s when all the cockroaches go running.

Obama was mentioned.

And, I wish I could remember who said it - a lot was said today so I’m overloaded - but someone gave this wonderful analogy that in these dark times, those of us that stand up and fight for this issue are the beacons of light. I want to say Celeste but I can’t for sure.

A prayer was said for Shirley Chisolm and Bob Matsui.

Bummer moments were:

Letting Bill Moss near a microphone. Sorry, but sometimes I think he’s off his nut. He was on the school board here in Columbus and my impression was that he picked fights with people over issues and got real petulant when things didn’t go his way. Unfortunately, he took THIS moment to badmouth a lot of people from our Mayor Coleman and Mary Joe Kilroy (old nemesis from school board days) who is now Franklin County Commissioner to our buddy John Kerry. Personally, I could have done without the attacks especially since we need to stand together now more than ever.

And the LaRouche folks were there. Huh? No, they didn’t speak, there were just people there handing out literature, which when I looked at it contains the word fascist at least five times in the titles and subheads alone. Okay I don’t know a WHOLE lot about the guy but I vaguely remember him as being a bit of an extremist way back when. And when I googled him, I found out that protesting LaRouche folks broke Al Franken’s glasses at a Dean rally. How dare they do that to my Al!. But their big contribution to the rally was to stand in the back and start singing what sounded like a hymn, which caused momentary confusion on the stage but they were drowned out by the hip-hop musician rapping about ... I don’t know really I had to leave at this point since I had been there for three hours and really needed food. I ran into the LaRouche folks outside the theater still singing handing out pamphlet.

The Capitol Theatre holds approximately 860 sears and it was nearly full, minus 50 or so. I saw quite a few video cameras but couldn’t tell where they were from. Maybe we’ll be on the news, maybe we won’t. Apparently, there were people there from Toledo, Cincinatti, Cleveland and Chicago.

I also have a flyer from the We Do Not Concede Coalition. They are having a fundraiser Tuesday night to pay for busses to D.C. But if you want to go to D.C. they’re saying $200 will pay for one person, busfare and hotel. $2,000 will pay for one bus and no one will be turned away for lack of funds. If you want a phone number privately e-mail me and I will get it to you.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:36 PM
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1. Where is Kucinich ?
:shrug:


:hippie:
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:39 PM
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4. Not sure but I believe he was on Moss's pooey list!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:51 PM
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19. Moss is truely nuts
It scares me that he is in the mix. The man had behavior that would not be
allowed in a Kindergarten classroom while on the B. of Ed. here.

Get the mic from him. The repugs will make this voter fraud about him and Jessie
Jackson ..... watch 'em.

:kick:
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:54 PM
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23. Yeah, that worries me a bit too but at least there are other people in
that lawsuit.

I can still see him on tv banging his shoe on the table at one meeting.
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:52 PM
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52. Just got a letter from his people today...
Hi Shannon,

Thank you for writing and sharing your concerns with us.

Dennis fully supports the recount efforts and he
believes that all allegations of impropriety should be
fully investigated. The investigations are underway.

You can follow this and other issues on our discussion
forums:

http://www.kucinich.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=280

http://www.kucinich.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=111

http://www.kucinich.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=119

http://www.kucinich.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=402

Here is another message from Dennis on the vote problem
issue:

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1110-31.htm

Unfortunately our kucinich.us website is still in
transition. I think we are waiting for the FEC to
finish their review of our presidential campaign so
that the website can be purchased by the re-elect
Kucinich committee. When this happens, we can start up
again. Until then, all of the action is over on our
discussion forums. You can follow the vote problems
as well as other issues there. It is Dennis Kucinich
who "allows" us to use "his" forums to keep people
current on the issues. Dennis believes in enabling
people/leaders to help themselves. We are doing just
that. Please come join us.

Our campaign for peace and progressive issues
continues. You can join us and stay involved by
participating in the following websites:

http://kucinich.us/

http://www.kucinich.us/mx/

Once again, thanks for writing. Your continued support
for Dennis and progressive issues is greatly appreciated.

In hope and peace,
Gail Heyn
Kucinich Campaign Volunteer
http://www.kucinich.us/

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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 09:24 AM
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55. Thanks !
:hi:


:hippie:
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:04 PM
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56. : )
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:36 PM
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2. thank you for the update!
momentum is starting, I can feel it.
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:56 PM
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24. It's weird you say that
I was telling my boss that if things keep going in this direction then the poop is going to hit the fan in a major way. I just have this feeling...
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:21 PM
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43. I think any question of the legitimacy of this
puke president is good news.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:39 PM
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3. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones was Kerry's point person/liaison with the DNC.
Interesting that she would be there.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:41 PM
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5. How is that interesting?
I love her fire!
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:43 PM
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9. Oh, she was totally great!
She read from the Plain Dealer that Blackwell's spokesman said something to the affect of "If Tubbs wants to make a fool of herself..." and her reply was something like then I'm that kind of fool.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:49 PM
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16. Interesting in that she was an official spokesperson for Kerry.
Although the MSM certainly never gave her much time during the campaign.
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:13 AM
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54. Really?? WOW.
I never knew that.

Good lord, even if Kerry himself is doing nothing (and he's apparently in major depression and deserves sympathy, not slams! :grr:), his friends are certainly sticking up for him. I have read that Arnebeck is also a friend of his. I hope it helps him to know that there ARE some old pals who've got his back.

(...Sorry for the tangent, but I can't get this image out of my mind. Depression is truly the pits. :()
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:41 PM
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6. How many in attendance today?
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:45 PM
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10. I'm guessing at 800-the theater holds around 850 and it was almost full
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:51 PM
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20. Great and thanks for posting!
We don't get much information here in Colorado, so I have to keep checking all over the place to find out what's going on. Now it's sit and wait for Jan. 6th. I'll be doing a lot of hoping and praying until than!
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:42 PM
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7. Thank you for the report form the ground!
You did so much better than the supposedly 'trained' professional media - that covers these types of Events. :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:43 PM
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8. Thanks, kitkat! I just might go feed my family now! n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:45 PM
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11. Thanks for the update!
I've been looking for news of the rally all day.

Now off to pdamerica!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:46 PM
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12. Thanks for the great summary!
I think the other rally today was in Tennessee. Groups there have been really active.
:kick:
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:06 PM
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29. We had ours in TN yesterday
High point was ex-VP of Diebold speaking. Said "100 ways to rig an election"

Wiley
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Eye_on_prize Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:16 PM
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33. has this person filed an affidavit with Conyers yet? sure hope so.. n/t
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:51 PM
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37. See post #35
The speaker didn't work for Diebold, but did work in the voting machine industry. I will email him to suggest that he communicate directly with Rep. Conyers. He was a dynamic speaker and said there is NO EXCUSE for voting machines without a paper trail, unless your intention is to steal elections.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:16 PM
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50. Wiley -- tell more! eom
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:47 PM
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35. Thanks for the kind words on the Orange State's efforts
It's always nice to get good vibes from the Left Coast for our down home Su-thun efforts.

We held our third Gathering at Vanderbilt's Benton Chapel on Sunday, with 150+ in attendance, speeches from a half-dozen civil rights warrior-pioneers (the real high point of the Gathering for me), a slide show (thanks Election Fraud 2004) which included a half-dozen brand-new slides from the leaked "raw" exit poll data (thanks DUers!!), coverage (again) from our local CBS affiliate, the Nashville newspaper, and a half-hour post-Gathering live radio interview on the largest Black-owned radio station in Nashville. We did have an excellent speaker who had worked in the voting machine industry, though not for Diebold. (However, he had met with them and ES$S execs a number of times and had been asked to co-author a book with one of them entitled" "100 Ways to Rig An Election". I will encourage him to contact Rep. Conyers to share his insights and experience.)

We also sent several carloads of Tennessee folks from our Gathering to Columbus,OH and we're anxious to hear how they viewed the experience. Drive home safe, ya'll.

We will follow up this week with rallies (11:00 am CST on 1/5/05 at Senator Lamar Alexander's office, then proceeding to Senator Bill Frist's office) in Nashville, Jackson and (hopefully) in all other TN cities where our Senators have offices, with media attention for those rallies also. (Any Tennessee DUers who read this, PLEASE PM me for details.) We will also continue to meet at least once a month to formulate our own legislative agenda for election reform in Tennessee.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:46 PM
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13. Great
and thanks for the update
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burned Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:47 PM
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14. Thanks
I've been scouring for a report.
The other rally is in Boston right now.
Will Pitt is blogging on it live.

http://truthout.org/fyi/
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:01 PM
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27. Even here
OMG - Check out this comment from Will Pitt - http://truthout.org/fyi/

Monday 03 January 2005 @ 07:55

Speaker after speaker covering their own eyewitness experience of election fraud. Apparently even here in blue Massachusetts, where a utility company apparently promised to pay the bill of anyone who voted for Bush.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:51 PM
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36. thank you i missed that......going to read now n/t
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Yellow Horse Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:47 PM
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15. THANK YOU for the report Kitkat!
I wanted to go VERY much but realized last night that it was either go to Columbus or go to D.C. (looks like DC is winning out)

Glad it went well and that the theatre had a good crowd.

Having worked for several weeks on the Ohio recount myself, I would like to have had a chance to meet David Cobb in person. I really admire him (and all the Greens) for everything they did to get the recount going. And of course I would love to meet Jesse Jackson; he is one of my heros from way back when I was a little tyke.

'Course all these folks will be in DC -- along with (we hope) a gadzillion other people!

MB
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:50 PM
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17. Will do! Thank you!
:toast:
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Farmgirl Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:50 PM
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18. Thank you for the update...
do you, or does anyone have any pics? Might be nice post a few at DU - maybe William Pitt would pick some up for his new blog site!!

I'm on these websites you passed on. Whatever I can do from the blue state of Oregon, where we vote by mail (86% participation and very few glitches) -- I'll do it!!

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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:52 PM
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21. we were all wondering
today how many went?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:53 PM
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22. Thanks for the update! I wish I could be there, god knows that
I am there in spirit with all of you guys! :thumbsup:

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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:56 PM
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25. Again where was my buddy
Kucinich? He was definitely there in spirit, if not in the flesh.
Thanks to everyone involved. God bless.
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jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:48 PM
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51. His top aide was there n/t
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ohioliberal Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:58 PM
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26. Thanks for the update.
Wish I could have been there, but my 14 year old had a doctors appt. and we all know how hard it is to get in to see a doctor. I went to both websites and e-mailed the appropriate people. :yourock:
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m.standridge Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:57 PM
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38. Yes, so many of us would have liked to have been there
It was so important.
Thank you so much for the information.
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mary195149 Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:04 PM
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28. done n/t
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:12 PM
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30. Very coo keeping up with Will Pitt's live blog!
http://truthout.org/fyi/

"Every time the name Blackwell is mentioned by a speaker, the hall echoes with a long, angry consonant...sssssssss..."
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Left coast liberal Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:12 PM
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31. Awesome synopsis! Thanks so much, kitkat! n/t
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:13 PM
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32. Thx a mil kitkat for the very thorough update!
;)
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:22 PM
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34. REMEMBER THE BILL OF RIGHTS!.....
INVESTIGATE THE VOTE!!!!!

Remember the Bill of Rights! Its the Law of the land. We are requesting redress:

"US Constitution, The Bill of Rights 12/15/1791";
'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.'"

Sincerely,

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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:06 PM
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39. Thnaks for the report kitkat65 more....
I wanted to be there, but I no way for me to get off work today.

Channel 6 (Of all Channles Sinclair) had fairly good coverage tonight at 6:00 here in Columbus. I'm sure they will do a repeat at 11:00.

I think chnnel 4 had coverage as well, but I missed all but the last few seconds.

Thanks so much for the report.

KerryOn
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s-cubed Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:12 PM
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40. kick
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:17 PM
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41. Thanks KitKat -- Couldn't have said it better! Where were you sitting?
I was there too! There was someone a couple of rows ahead of me with a BUSH CHEATED bumper sticker (The kind Rosebud57 has been posting).

I think for me the most important thing was the energy. That all of these people (Over 800!!) are fighting for a common cause and that if we raise our voices loud enough, maybe they'll start to hear us.

Reminds me of that scene in Horton Hears a Who.... I hope people here remember the end of that story....

So many standing oviations -- so much cheering. So many People calling for the Resignation of Blackwell! (People really reacted to that!)

We had to leave at 4:30, 'cause we had to drive back to Cincinnati so I could pick up my son on time -- have some pix, though, and they will be posted soon --hopefully tonight.

I counted about 4-5 professional (probably local) video cameras (Channel 4 (Columbus I'm guessing) was definitely one.-- most left mid-way through Jackson (1 or 2 might have stayed longer) -- Several Mobil people taking video, some with pretty professional looking equipment. -- hopefully we'll see it on the 'net....

Lots of professional photographers, too. People holding up their signs, and photographs taken of them.

Next Step: CALL your Senators (they say Thursday -- I say start Wednesday -- Thursday may be too late) Number is posted in Original Post. Write, talk, tell people. This is just beginning, folks.... remember that.

--- oh just one clarification, Diebold was (still is?) in Dayton in the 70s, and that's where the problems were for the Celeste race (Dayton) (per Celeste).

Toledo is in Lucas County, where someone (BOE director??) is buddy, buddy with Bush and hangs out at the Crawford Ranch.(Per Fitrakis)
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:20 PM
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42. I was left and back as you're looking at the stage
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:21 PM
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44. like others, I was unable to go, so thank you
very much for the report. Hopefully ya'll will cut me a little slack for not attending, since I was at those last two very frigid rallies in front of the State House!

kitkat, you said in your wonderful description above:

"it was more like outraged rhetoric from Fitrakis - hmmm, I’m wondering if he plans on running for office someday."

You're kidding, right? Fitrakis runs all the time for something or another -- last time I think it was city council, on some sort of "double bill" with Moss, but I could be wrong -- and I think he pretty much always loses. My brother-in-law has done some campaigning for him, in fact. I love his firebrand delivery. He's an authentic late 60s/early 70s radical, even kicked out the jams (MF) with the MC5 in Detroit. I hope my husband won't mind the :loveya:. On the other hand, Fitrakis has GOT to lose the curly mullet look.

Right on, brothers and sisters! Kick out the jams! :headbang:
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:29 PM
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45. Good job!
Thanks for the report.
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:30 PM
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46. any news of the Boxer rally in SF?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:46 PM
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47. Very good action alerts and report! Thanks! n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:00 PM
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48. thanks mucho for the report and glad there was a good turnout
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:05 PM
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49. This was covered by ONN.
It had some good footage of the crowd filling the hall.
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edowling Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:04 AM
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53. I was there Jan 3rd too... some comments
"Just got home from the Rainbow Coalition rally featuring Jesse Jackson, Tubbs and others at the Riffe Center in Columbus Ohio."

(from me:)
I just came home from this too.
One thing on this board that ticks me off is that we all don't know eachother personally; the speakers identified some people from certain
counties, but somebody should have asked for the "commongroundcommonsense.org" people to stand up. I would have liked to meet you. That is the kind of thing that would happen in the sixties...
Also, although I love the band that led in, they played a really long time, as though there were no speakers with anything more important to
say than that we should keep going. (The rally was scheduled for 1:30;
it was past 2:30 at least before the band let anybody speak.) I am a
musician, but even I was irritated after a while. It meant that not
every speaker got to speak, buses from Cleveland had to leave before the end, and there were absolutely no questions and answers. Some of those we talked to in the lobby had some new information:

This might be on another post, but I found out that my voting precinct
in Akron had over six percent of rejected votes. These were punch-card
ballots. There were many precincts with more than three percent. We are thinking of going door to door in Cleveland to ask residents in one precinct where Blackwell said there were ZERO votes and certified it, if anyone there voted, and would be willing to testify. (I have felt that most of the focus has been on Columbus in any lawsuits, so this would be very useful.)

One minister there had a copy of a legal document from 2001 that was
served on George W. Bush that said he was in violation of the law, etc., all carefully signed and sealed and delivered, but ignored. I wished that I had the exact numbers and name of the document. The Supreme Court in 2000 and 2001 was covering up much more than election results.

There was so much unity at the rally. Everyone was glad to see the Green Party and Cobb; everyone was glad to see the Progressive Democrats; everyone was glad to see Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (who pointed to a stupid article by the Cleveland Plain Dealer); everyone was glad to see the Rev. Jesse Jackson; everyone was glad to see many other individuals and groups, such as Fitrakis of the freepress.org and Arnebeck of Common Cause, etc. The main points to me were:

1. Call; E-Mail; Visit; every Democrat Senator and ask them to stand
with Conyers on January 6th. It is easy to find phone numbers and
websites, but they gave these too.
2. Get on a bus (or car, plane, etc.) and if at all possible, go to
Washington D.C. on January 6th.
3. Do any other kind of volunteering you can to help find out vote fraud.
4. Call, E-Mail, every friend and associate you know about these things, and tell them what you know about this, because the media has blacked out coverage of vote fraud.

quote from kitkat65:
"The important things for me to pass on to you are these:

"They asked us to go to the Progressive Democrats web page
www.pdamerica.org

"and go to the Action Alert page which is this
http://capwiz.com/pdamerica/mail/oneclick_compose/?aler..>http://capwiz.com/pdamerica/mail/oneclick_compose/?aler...

"you can compose a message that will be passed on to

Russell Feingold, Senator

Patrick Leahy, Senator

Tom Harkin, Senator

Patty Murray, Senator

Richard Durbin, Senator

John F Kerry, Senator

"They asked us to go to call the Senate Hotline at 202/224-3121
to ask them to investigate the vote. “Light up those boards!” they said.

"Points of note:

"Cobb, Tubbs, Fitrakis, Arnebeck and Jackson all spoke most of it saying that this is one of the most important times in our history, that we can’t let something like this go - not now, not ever. There is beauty in the struggle. Jesse listed all the voting irregularities that we pretty much now know by heart now. There are other rallies in San Francisco and somewhere else I now forget (sorry) that are being held to show their support for our fight in Ohio. I was hoping Fitrakis and Arnebeck would give some hot, juicy, updated news on the investigation front but it was more like outraged rhetoric from Fitrakis - hmmm, I’m wondering if he plans on running for office someday.

"Dagmar Celeste, former first lady of Ohio (husband was governor in the 70s) spoke of her experience with voter fraud. For some reason they lost badly in the Toledo area which then was home of Diebold. Go figure."

(from me:)
Jesse Jackson also asked the whole audience to repeat after him some of the statistics, to help fix these in our minds, so that if anybody asks us, we can give them facts right away! The supporting rallies today (Jan 3rd) were in Boston (where the person from the Progressive Democrats was from) and also San Francisco. Fitrakis and Arnebeck did have some hot news, but, as I said before, the band at the beginning spent all of the time for all of the speakers, so they couldn't say much. Fitrakis was very impressive... given only a few minutes to speak. (Of course, today people expect politicians to be as distant and unemotional as Kerry,but, Kerry was not there of course.) I talked to Fitrakis after the rally, and told him how I appreciated all his work. He spoke very calmly to me; when I told him about our discussions on commongroundcommonsense he told me how much they appreciate all the work that we are doing there,and that he looks in at it! He also acted as though he had read my posts, asking what my name is, etc. Dagmar Celeste gave a wonderful speech just before Jesse Jackson came in. The voter fraud her husband experienced in 1978 was in Dayton, not Toledo, where Diebold had vote scanners. Her husband, a Democrat, lost in a heavily Democrat black neighborhood there where he had been projected to win. (Dayton is near Xenia, Ohio, the home now of Triad.) She said that, at the time, something seemed very fishy, and now she realizes that Diebold could change results of punch-card scanners. .

quote from kitkat65:
"Ohio senator, Teresa Fedor, said that this was an extremely important
issue and hoped that her colleagues on the Hill will find the courage to stand up. Too bad she’s not a U.S. senator, eh? I believe she’s the one that said a huge spotlight needs to be shone on this because that’s when all the cockroaches go running.

"Obama was mentioned."

(from me:)
Obama was mentioned by Cliff Arnebeck. Others did not feel that Obama
would be ready to take on this burden; that the senior Senators should
do it, but I think that, given almost no time to speak, Arnebeck was
hinting at something. Remember that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a
young man, very new to the civil rights movement, when he was asked to
lead some rallies, mainly because nobody had yet formed any grudges
against him? I think that Senator Obama would be such a leader... if he decides to stand with Congressman Conyers on Jan 6th.

quote from kitkat65:
"And, I wish I could remember who said it - a lot was said today so I’m overloaded - but someone gave this wonderful analogy that in these dark times, those of us that stand up and fight for this issue are the
beacons of light. I want to say Celeste but I can’t for sure.

"A prayer was said for Shirley Chisolm and Bob Matsui."

(from me:)
Dagmar Celeste did indeed say that we must be beacons of light. She gave a spiritual speech. And several, including her, and also the Rev. Jesse Jackson, said the Truth shall make us free. Jesse Jackson asked
everybody to hold hands for the prayer for Shirley Chisolm and Bob
Matsui; the entire hall reached across aisles to do that. (By the way,
almost all the seats were filled in the entire hall: ground floor,
mezzanine, and balcony.)

I've already mentioned some bummer moments, but the first one I had was on entering the building, when my signs (not on sticks) were taken away from me by a state trooper. There were people with signs in the theatre,and cameras focused on them, but it looked like nobody else cared to bring signs, when in reality we had these examples of freedom of speech taken away from us. (The people who brought signs either brought them under their coats, or were part of Rainbow-Push and therefore not prevented, or part of another group that was not prevented.) Bill Moss was not a bummer for me; some may not like him personally, but he had a really good point: where were all those people in the Democrat Party in Columbus? They didn't send staff, or even a memo of encouragement. Jesse Jackson stepped in and reminded him that most of the elected officials in Columbus were being sworn in today, but that still does not explain why there were no other encouraging letters etc. We all stand together,but it must not be forgotten that it is most important for those who call themselves Democrat to stand strongly with us at this most important time. My only bummer (other than the lack of signs), as I said before, is that everything has been centered on Columbus, from lawsuits to meetings, and so much more discovery of evidence needs to be done across the state of Ohio; I thought that all the people of Columbus were most gracious to host this rally, but I would also like to see them come
to other parts of the state too. If you want info on LaRouche and the
"Students for a Democratic Society" in the 1960s go to Wikopedia; they
have a lot of energy, but focused in unhelpful directions. If you want a better analysis of Bush's economic policies, go to Michael Moore's
source: Greg Palast, at www.GregPalast.com who is a reporter for the BBC.

The LaRouche group wasn't singing a hymn, but a 60's protest song. (I
would have liked some other people to sing some songs too, other than
the long gig by the band at the beginning.) The hip-hop was very well
done (and I am supposedly a generation too old to appreciate it); a
poetic plea for people to get on the bus to Washington D.C., with facts about the vote fraud woven into the lyrics. The hip-hop artist was handing out free CD demos of it afterwards. (I got two, because I
contributed to the bus... he was accepting no funds for himself.) The
title of the CD is: "Freedom Winter - Get Up On the Bus!!!"

quote from kitkat65:
"Bummer moments were:

"Letting Bill Moss near a microphone. Sorry, but sometimes I think he’s off his nut. He was on the school board here in Columbus and my
impression was that he picked fights with people over issues and got
real petulant when things didn’t go his way. Unfortunately, he took THIS moment to badmouth a lot of people from our Mayor Coleman and Mary Joe Kilroy (old nemesis from school board days) who is now Franklin County Commissioner to our buddy John Kerry. Personally, I could have done without the attacks especially since we need to stand together now more than ever.

"And the LaRouche folks were there. Huh? No, they didn’t speak, there
were just people there handing out literature, which when I looked at it contains the word fascist at least five times in the titles and subheads alone. Okay I don’t know a WHOLE lot about the guy but I vaguely remember him as being a bit of an extremist way back when. And when I googled him, I found out that protesting LaRouche folks broke Al Franken’s glasses at a Dean rally. How dare they do that to my Al!. But their big contribution to the rally was to stand in the back and start singing what sounded like a hymn, which caused momentary confusion on the stage but they were drowned out by the hip-hop musician rapping about ... I don’t know really I had to leave at this point since I had been there for three hours and really needed food. I ran into the LaRouche folks outside the theater still singing handing out pamphlet.

"The Capitol Theatre holds approximately 860 sears and it was nearly
full, minus 50 or so. I saw quite a few video cameras but couldn’t tell where they were from. Maybe we’ll be on the news, maybe we won’t.
Apparently, there were people there from Toledo, Cincinatti, Cleveland
and Chicago.

"I also have a flyer from the We Do Not Concede Coalition. They are
having a fundraiser Tuesday night to pay for busses to D.C. But if you
want to go to D.C. they’re saying $200 will pay for one person, busfare and hotel. $2,000 will pay for one bus and no one will be turned away for lack of funds. If you want a phone number privately e-mail me and I will get it to you."

(from me:)
... a lot of people have given away bus rides... this week is _critical_.
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