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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:36 PM
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HEY! Found someone in MSM to listen! Talked Fraud in AUGUST!
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 09:12 PM by Laura PackYourBags
Paul Krugman at New York Times. His email on edit: krugman@nytimes.com OR pkrugman@Princeton.EDU Going to send him EVERYTHING

READ THIS -- NATIONAL REVIEW TRASHING OF HIM IN AUGUST ABOUT EXIT POLLS AND FRAUD....

http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_luskin/luskin200408250859.asp


Krugman Truth Squad

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The ugliest and bitterest version of this dirty trick is Krugman’s repeated prediction that the 2004 presidential election will be rigged. Way back in December of last year Krugman wrote a column exaggerating problems with touch-screen voting machines (which have only been put in place for this year’s election because people like Krugman exaggerated the problems with “butterfly ballots” in the 2000 election). It’s not just that the machines don’t produce a paper audit trail — no, Krugman warns that they are manufactured by a company whose CEO is a Bush supporter. He wrote, “you don’t have to believe in a central conspiracy to worry that partisans will take advantage of an insecure, unverifiable voting system to manipulate election results.”
Krugman won’t require proof this November. As long as Bush wins, the result will be suspect: “We may never know,” he intoned in a column last week. His loony solution to the predicted election fraud? Check it out:
Intensive exit polling … It would serve as a deterrent to anyone contemplating election fraud. If all went well, it would help validate the results and silence skeptics.
We hardly need to ask what he means by “if all went well.” That means, “If Kerry wins.” And we hardly need to ask what happens if all does not go well — that is, if Bush wins: then Democrats can use their hand-picked exit polls to contest the results (and Michael Moore will have the opening scenes for his sequel to Fahrenheit 9-11 ready made). Such use of exit polling is so manifestly a bad idea that even the New York Times itself rejected it in an editorial last week — when exit polls were used to question the validity of the recall victory of Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez (whom the Times favors because the Bush administration wants him out of power).

What we have here, then, is more than just a self-fulfilling prophecy of “an ugly, bitter campaign.” We have the opening moves in a pre-scripted left-wing game-plan designed to assure a victorious George W. Bush an ugly and bitter second term. Before that second term even begins, Krugman — acting as the primary mainstream-media mouthpiece for the Left — has created the conceptual structure for denying Bush’s fundamental legitimacy. If Bush wins the election, by definition he stole it. If he does a great job in office, that’s just because he managed to keep scandals hidden from view.


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:37 PM
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1. pkrugman@nytimes.com n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:40 PM
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3. You know, this doesn't look right to me! maybe paulkrugman@
Sorry, info overload today!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:56 PM
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11. Hi ! It's krugman@nytimes.com
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:37 AM
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16. Geezus, thank you. lol
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:39 PM
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2. What has he been saying lately?
Or did the NYTimes make him take a vacation?
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:50 PM
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6. Nothing about Fraud - Nothing since Dec 10th!!!
December 10, 2004 $
Borrow, Speculate and Hope
''The National Association of Securities Dealers,'' The Wall Street Journal reports, ...


December 7, 2004 $
Inventing A Crisis
Privatizing Social Security -- replacing the current system, in whole or in part, with ...


November 5, 2004 $
No Surrender
President Bush isn't a conservative. He's a radical -- the leader of a coalition that ...


November 2, 2004 $
Faith In America
Florida's early polling was designed to make voting easier, but enormous voter turnout ...


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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:51 PM
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7. He announced last year
He was taking a leave of absence to finish or promote an Economics textbook he's been writing. He's an econonics proffessor
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:52 PM
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9. Hmmm. He needs to change the topic FAST....
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:41 PM
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4. Well, I'll just have to say hello to my new best friend
Hello, Paul!
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:45 PM
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5. The Krugster has always
been a stand up guy. I still love the way he slapped O'Leilly around on Russert's CNBC show.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:51 PM
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8. HIS EMAIL IS: KRUGMAN@NYTIMES.COM
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JoMama49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:53 PM
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10. Krugman's book "The Great Unvravelling" is awesome!
I would think he would have already heard about all this fraud stuff, but then again, maybe not. Be sure to send him the info about the exit polls.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:58 PM
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14. If I can figure out where he lives, I could send him a whole
printed package! Maybe through the college
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:57 PM
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12. He has a new editorial at Truthout about Social Security
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:58 PM
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13. He's almost a regular on Franken's show
But I've never heard him speak on this topic
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:09 PM
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15. HIS EMAIL, PHONE, FAX and ADDRESS at PRINCETON

Paul R Krugman
Phone: 609-258-1548
Fax: 609-258-2809
Address: 414 Robertson Hall
Department: Woodrow Wilson School
Princeton University
Princeton, New Jersey 08544


Email: pkrugman@Princeton.EDU
Emailbox: pkrugman@mail.Princeton.EDU
Netid: pkrugman
Voicemailbox: 81548
Title: Professor of Economics and International Affairs, Woodrow Wilson School.
Alias: 610098752

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mulethree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:39 AM
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17. Cripes! how did you ever read that far down the luskin tirade?
I've got a headache now, I should have just read your snippet.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:27 AM
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18. Oh, boo hoo! Advance whining!
"Whyyyy can't they just leeeeeeave the PREZ-uh-dent alonnnnne??"

National Review and their pathetic little snookered readers are a bunch of weaklings. Imagine--whining in advance!

The suckers have got both houses of congress, the presidency, and a lock on the supreme court, they've changed rules in the house so the criminal DeLay can keep his seniority even if he's indicted, and on and on... and yet they STILL whine! What a bunch of losers. I predict they will end up like "Piggy", the fat kid in "Lord of the Flies". And I can't wait.
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