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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:37 PM
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Re-post - - Election Fraud Activists, please read - RE: Freepers
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 10:36 PM by Faye
This might get locked, but I want everyone to remember what kind of people we have here trying to dissuade us from focusing on the election fraud. They are doing everything in their power to try to dampen our efforts and mock our emotions. I am seeing too much of it the past two days and it is only going to get worse. DO NOT LET THEM GET TO YOU. I posted this as a reply in the "Is it normal to hate freepers so much?" thread, but I want to repost it so that everyone remembers. If mods think it's bad, I do understand and I will just keep it saved for the Demopedia when it is back up.




What I learned on DU: Classification of Freepers

and how to tell which is which. (by request of another DU'er, who wants to know the 'dead give aways') :hi: (and also accused ME of being one) :hi:

ok, i think there are about 5 classes of freepers - I actually think I saw something similar posted a while ago but this is what I've learned personally.



CLASS 1 - "Drive-by Freepers" (*aka* Pre-Skool Freepers)

Drive-by freepers post short, brief, negative and disruptive comments in the middle of threads - usually 'one-liners' followed by one or two exclamation points (!). They are usually the most obvious and easiest to pick out. They almost come off as bratty little pre-skoolers. They last no more than about 30 posts, if they're lucky (they are also aware that they won't last). Their act is more or less, like a drive-by shooting (except it's a drive-by posting).


CLASS 2 - Disinformation Freepers

Disinformation Freepers can be either newer or older members, usually having registered within the last month or two. As the name suggests, they post either straight out bogus or distorted information to confuse or upset the issue or cause being discussed. They usually pound the disinfo like it's fact and no matter what the facts really are, they will put DU'ers out on a pointless hunt for unneccessary research. These guys don't last long either.


CLASS 3 - Sneaky 1000+ Freepers

Sneaky 1000+ Freepers aren't as easy to detect, but we all know they're out there. These guys might post and lurk for months, even years, (also might even be a donator) pretending to blend in with the crowd, only to go back to whatever Freep forum they came from to tell their Freepy friends what DU'ers are up to.


CLASS 4 - Borderline Freepers

Borderline Freepers (we have a good number of these guys crawling around, mostly in Election 2004 forum) are similar to Disinformation Freepers, except they focus more on turning every effort or issue into something negative. They will either purposely misinterpret the law, pretend to 'believe there was fraud in the election' yet try to "debunk" every fact, lawsuit, or piece of valuable information that comes our way. They will argue about almost anything, but not to the point where you piss them off enough for them to reveal that they are a Freeper. These are the hardest class of Freepers to get banned - everyone (probably even mods) knows who they are but they are so deceitful and unrevealing that there is no concrete basis on which to ban them.


And we cannot forget these guys:


CLASS 5 - To-the-Rescue Freepers (*aka* "Tag Team Freepers")

To-the-Rescue Freepers are simply freepers who come and post only to back up other Disinformation or Borderline Freeepers. They post to make it look like someone else is agreeing with a Disinfo or Borderline - almost like, hey, another Freeper to the rescue!!! (Tag team Freepers are a combination of any of the above, posting replies in support of eachother or agreeing with eachother to back the other up).





That's all, don't let them get to you, they are everywhere!!!

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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:40 PM
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1. Thanks for the reminder Faye!
:hi:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:44 PM
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2. man you read fast
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:55 PM
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28. Speed reading. Lots of useless years in grad school.
Hey! Your post isn't locked yet. Good Job!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:45 PM
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3. "tag team freepers" --- Combo of Class 1, 2 &4 or just 1 & 2 , etc.
CLASS 1 - "Drive-by Freepers" (*aka* Pre-Skool Freepers)

Drive-by freepers post short, brief, negative and disruptive comments in the middle of threads - usually 'one-liners' followed by one or two exclamation points (!). They are usually the most obvious and easiest to pick out. They almost come off as bratty little pre-skoolers. They last no more than about 30 posts, if they're lucky (they are also aware that they won't last). Their act is more or less, like a drive-by shooting (except it's a drive-by posting).

CLASS 2 - Disinformation Freepers

Disinformation Freepers can be either newer or older members, usually having registered within the last month or two. As the name suggests, they post either straight out bogus or distorted information to confuse or upset the issue or cause being discussed. They usually pound the disinfo like it's fact and no matter what the facts really are, they will put DU'ers out on a pointless hunt for unneccessary research. These guys don't last long either.

CLASS 4 - Borderline Freepers

Borderline Freepers (we have a good number of these guys crawling around, mostly in Election 2004 forum) are similar to Disinformation Freepers, except they focus more on turning every effort or issue into something negative. They will either purposely misinterpret the law, pretend to 'believe there was fraud in the election' yet try to "debunk" every fact, lawsuit, or piece of valuable information that comes our way. They will argue about almost anything, but not to the point where you piss them off enough for them to reveal that they are a Freeper. These are the hardest class of Freepers to get banned - everyone (probably even mods) knows who they are but they are so deceitful and unrevealing that there is no concrete basis on which to ban them.

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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:46 PM
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that falls along the lines of 'To-the-Rescue Freepers'
lol maybe i should change it?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:34 PM
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76. Just use the a/k/a "to-the rescue" a/k/a tag team freepers
Do you have any "expert freepers" - you know, the ones that are highly educated in a particular topic (mathematics, law, etc) and know for a fact that the post is not acceptable in the field, would not cut the mustard with other such experts or in a court of law?

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:32 PM
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74. Ex: Borderline: Tells youTsunami important, Votergate frivolous
Any poster who tries to make you feel that you are being frivilous, inhumane or bad about focusing on January 6 and the stolen election instead of on Tsunami Relief should be taken with a grain of salt.

Remember: YOU CAN DO BOTH!

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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:04 PM
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101. I was told today that with all 'do' respect, my 'anology' was laughable.
Was that fast typing or freeper spelling?
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bones_7672 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:46 PM
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4. delete
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 09:50 PM by bones_7672
gone.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:46 PM
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5. did you misread it or something?
Did I say that once?
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:48 PM
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9. That is exactly what you "meant", right? (n/t)
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bones_7672 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:48 PM
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11. delete
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 09:51 PM by bones_7672
going, going, GONE
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:49 PM
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12. well i didn't say that, did i?
i dont' see it up there :hi: :)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:51 PM
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14. LOL
#4 is exhibit A.

B will soon follow.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:54 PM
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22. #4=class4 SHHH
:shrug:
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:58 PM
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32. Hee! Hee! Hee! n/t
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:47 PM
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6. Excellent analysis, Faye...
There are soooo many of those "borderline freepers". Drives me crazy because they seem to know just how much they can get away with and they push it to the limit. There's one, in particular, that comes to mind. He/she is always negative and can't wait to say: "I told you so". Oh well, some people need to get a life, or a least a hobby. Have a good one!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:48 PM
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8. we probably have the same person in mind
:hi:
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:50 PM
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13. You have mail...
:hi:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:52 PM
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17. aLready replied
i'm quick! :hi:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:51 PM
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15. borderlines are the worst
:( can't do anything about them :shrug:
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:47 PM
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7. Thanks
Great description and is the first time I read it.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:48 PM
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10. Thanks I needed that
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 09:49 PM by FreakinDJ
how do you like my new posting photo


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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:52 PM
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16. Faye, I'm About Ready To Freaking Scream
you know, I NEVER go to FR and bother them...why are they obsessed with coming here and disrupting?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:53 PM
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19. they fear somethign
hmm, i wonder what it is? :hi:
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:52 PM
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18. thanks Faye
this is an excellent "how to spot freepers self help post/book"....;-)
just spray a little freeper-be-gone when you see one.
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:02 PM
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39. I think Faye needs to write a book: How To Talk To A Freeper.
You can dress in leather for the cover. It'll be a bestseller! Really! :silly:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:03 PM
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42. hahaha
writing this took long enough. i don't think there's much more to say about it :hi:
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:08 PM
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46. think about Ann 'the man' Coulter
your freeper book could be a huge seller!!!;)
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:22 PM
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57. doesn't say on the label...
does this work on freepers too?

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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:44 PM
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86. yes thats good powerfull stuff ...thanks n/t
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:53 PM
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20. power is not only what you have, but what your opponent thinks you have
as annoying as the borderline freeping has been, i keep telling myself it's due to the fact that they need to DISUADE discussion.

as Clinton says so eloquently, "when people think (and discuss freely) Dems benefit. The Repubs can only win when minds are closed." paraphrase...
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:54 PM
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21. Faye this ROCKS can I use it in my book???
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:54 PM
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25. lol
what book?
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:03 PM
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41. I want to do a DU book, specifically "inside the conservative mind"
...exposing the Freeps for what they are...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:54 PM
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23. This is a bit paranoid
and terribly disheartening. Do you realize that you've branded practically everyone who might hold a different pov from you as a freeper? And I have to say, if you can't take having your beliefs and theories challenged here on DU, how on earth are you going to be able to respond out there in the material world? Making a cogent argument involves more than pointing fingers and calling people names.

My first instinct was to hit the alert button, but I hope to see some thoughtful responses to your post.

Finally, stop worrying so much about freepers. You're not going to catch a disease from one, if they're disruptive the mods take care of them. Just go about engaging in discourse, and stop thinking that everyone who disagrees with you is an evil troll.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:55 PM
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26. nope
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 09:57 PM by Faye
cuz that's not what i did (or said) :hi:
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:18 PM
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52. Who's the ass that put you up to writing this?
And what kind of nutjob would accuse you of being a freeper?

BTW, nice job!!!! :evilgrin:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:19 PM
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54. oh, in case anyone is wondering
^^^^^^^^This guy asked me to do it
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:25 PM
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Thanks for blowing my cover!!!
:wtf:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:26 PM
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67. blow your cover?
why would you need to be under cover :shrug:
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:29 PM
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I'm afraid I have nothing to say to that...
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:56 PM
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29. How about practicing what you preach, yourself first? (n/t)
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 09:56 PM by RaulVB
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #23
36. Rule 10, 48 Laws of Power -- avoid the unhappy and unlucky
try hitting the ignore button first -- it's better karma
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:09 PM
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47. Cali. I think there is a difference between personal opinions and leading
us on.
DU would be soooo boring if we all had the exact same opinion about everything. Dissent is good. Disruption is bad.

Unfortunately, some disrupters are hard to spot at first.

Hey, BTW, thanks for your opinion. :hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:21 PM
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56. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:23 PM
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58. no one should be offended by any of this
it is my own speculation and it relates to 'freepers', not 'DUers'. So if you are not a freeper, what have you got to worry about? :hi:
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:54 PM
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24. I've had posts deleted (requests put in BY freepers)
for trying to describe the different freeper types, as you are doing here. I hope yours stays up!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:56 PM
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30. well
i don't expect it to last long. someone asked me what i thought in a pm, and i figured this all out in my car on the way home from work tonight and i made myself laugh, that's all. i totaly understand if it is deleted.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #30
48. I always say you can tell them by the fruits of their labor...
If they continually have a negative effect by making everyone feel dejected, discouraged, angry, etc., then my freeper alert goes off...
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:55 PM
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27. I've seen a lot of tag-teaming lately...they are working in pairs.
The board is just smelly with them lately. I never "call" them out, though. Once in awhile I might just say "hi", like you do :hi:

They get their 1000+ by hanging out in the Lounge.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:11 PM
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106. I tell them their frip is showing. Is that against the rules?
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:12 PM
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108. but then I feel guilty, perhaps I've judged them incorrectly.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:56 PM
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31. Jeepers, Creepers
Now we know our Freepers!!

LOL!

Thanks, Faye!!

:hi:
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:58 PM
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33. Thanks McCarthy!!!
Anyone who disagrees with what people say here is a "freeper" huh?

Somewhere, theres a shed missing most of its tools. Go home guys, just go home.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:59 PM
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34. hmm, why do people keep saying that?
do you see a 'class' up there that says anyone who disagrees is a freeper?

why are only certain people offended by it? :shrug:
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:01 PM
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38. disinformation to many here is
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 10:02 PM by Machiavelli05
information they dont believe to be correct.

Such as the statement "there is no hard evidence to suggest that voter fraud occured, just educated guessing baesd on circumstantial evidence"
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #33
49. Machiavelli, do you ever have anything nice to say?
I thought I'd bite.:)
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #49
53. Its really difficult to say something nice
When I feel Im surrounded with completely off the wall logic and the repetition of unsubstatiated claims. Yet no one willing to accept this and so many people taking these things as the gospel truth. And then even more people extrapolating on these theories and creating vast conspiracies... I havent heard the latest, but Im sure the alien abductions on Nov 1st have begun to play a role.
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:23 PM
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59. If you're so down on us, you don't have to hang out with us.
Sorry to see ya go but hey don't waste your energy on an issue you don't believe in. :nopity:
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #59
70. lol its not that I dont believe in it..
I believe that all this jumping to conclusions, having tons of rumors, presenting possibilities as cold hard facts and shouting down anyone who disagrees as being an idiot... or worse yet a freeper (which im assuming is not only someone from the Free Republic, but also all Republicans).

Everything Ive said has been caustic but civil.

I dont say "you guys are a bunch of fucking dumbasses"

I am trying to get through to people that this jumping to conclusions causes the entire case to lose credibility.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #53
60. Very mature reaction!
That I'm sure will bring a huge number of "tinfoilers" to your territory of "reality based" informed posters.
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #60
72. Do you know what mature means?
I did nothing immature. Sarcasm, irony and satire are actually very intelligent forms of rhetoric.

Its not exactly like I dont have a point here.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #72
73. The opposite of your posting? (n/t)
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #73
77. oh witty, witty..
See your response is less mature than mine, because you had nothing whatsoever constructive to say. While I attempted to develop and clarify what I was saying.

Good show ole chap!

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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #33
65. Stop making educated guesses based on circumstantial evidence.
No one asked you to try on the shoe.

:hi:
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #65
79. Explain, I dont get what youre saying.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #79
82. can i ask you something
why are you trying to argue with everyone :shrug:
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #82
95. Im not, in fact I can think of at least 4 instances in which I posted
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 10:53 PM by Machiavelli05
"exactly" or "I totally agree" or "youre exactly right"
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #95
97. you really do
"push the envelope" as they'd say :hi: :hug:
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #97
99. It bothers me that I disagree with so much on this board...
It bothers me that I disagree with many things that are said here for the same reasons that I disagree with most of the Republican stuff.

Conjecture, jumping to conclusions, accusations, hate, fear, conspiracy theories.... c'mon this stuff isnt needed. It really doesnt elevate teh debate whatsoever.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #99
107. You shouldn't visit the forum then.
Find a mirror and try to debate yourself...
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #107
109. LOL
yes, 'negotiate' with yourself. lol
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #107
115. As I said.. the attitudes here are what I dont like about the GOP
If you contradict the president you arent patriotic...


If you contradict what a handful of 50,000 members think, you arent welcome here.. and in some dreaded cases you are a *gasp* FREEPER...

Uh oh... I said freeper, did I set off any alarm bells in the DU's Ashcroft clone's bat cave?
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #115
117. Poor Machiavelli! Can't live with us, can't live without us?
So what are you going to do?
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #117
133. I suppose I will continue to stick up for what I believe here...
You know? that value you claim no Dem has... except you say "they wont stick up for what I believe!!"

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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #95
110. wow, four huh!
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #110
116. At least 4, plus some posts not even on this election fraud topic
However, my time on here recently has been to attempt to challenge the loud one sided unwavering voice that is screaming claims that reek of not considering all possibilities and thinking things through clearly.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #116
123. Why is it so threatening to you that some people still have some hope.
Why must they be branded as delusional. Plenty of people have considered all possibilities and are thinking things through clearly, they just don't want to give up hope. Most of those people are just as thoughtful and intelligent and non-delusional as I'm sure you consider yourself to be. Stop being so denigrating ( I've read your posts, you are sometimes quite patronizing) and perhaps people will find it easier to respectfully disagree with you.

End of rant.
Peace.
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #123
149. Its not the hope that bothers me
Its the sheer rejection of reality.

Leaving the party because Senators dont live up to lofty expectations held by a minority of members of the party.

Thinking that b/c Kerry lost he must have thrown it b/c of hs S&B membership at Y

Getting so angry with people who point out that these theories arent going to fly in the mainstream conciousness of America.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #149
154. Oh I see. I kind of agree with you on those points.
I myself have gone off on people who bring up the Skull and Bones thing. It is absurd. I also don't see how people expect to ever get rid of the right wing fundie branch of the Republican party unless they support the opposition party that has the most chance of beating them. Without election reforms and verifiable voting no one stands the chance of beating them ever again unfortunately. We pretty much have one party government in this country right now, no checks and balances left to speak of. So this is the fight. Now or never, however unrealistic it is.

I understand the frustration Democrats feel, I've been one all my life and I sometimes think I want to leave the party, especially if no Democratic Senator stands up and contests on January 6th (even if it doens't change a thing it is still a potent symbolic gesture and shot in the arm) and then fights on for election reform (not the bogus HAVA reforms but real reforms).
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:00 PM
Response to Original message
35. The Thought Of Kerry In The White House Sickens Them
I'm gonna luv seeing them hurl when Kerry is inaugurated!
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:00 PM
Response to Original message
37. Good post.
Not accusatory, no named names, no insulting tone - a good disinfo strategy overview for DU'ers, regardless of their take on Election Fraud '04.

The responses here will be most telling - and entertaining!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. they already are
:hi: :crazy:
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ShinerTX Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:05 PM
Response to Original message
43. The Salem Solution
We need to dunk them underwater for several minutes: if they drown, we know they're not really freepers. If they live, then we'll know that they are freepers and then we can ban them.

It worked well with the Salem witches, right? We can't lose. :tinfoilhat:
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #43
112. What's with the killing??
I am a newbie who's been accused of being a freeper. I don't mind being cursed at -- I understand that people are freaking out about Bush winning, so what the heck -- but I got one or two that made death references. Why would you talk about drowning people??? Even in a joking manner, it just doesn't seem right.
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ShinerTX Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #112
132. You're a little tightly wound, moggie.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:06 PM
Response to Original message
44. jousting clowns or freeptards
like to come over as "conservative democrats" or something, and wind up challenging this or that member(s) to a series of lively (but stupid) debates, This allows them to mock us and infuriate people from the safety of a devil's advocate role, meanwhile deliberately building their post counts by responding to every single post.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. they would fall under Class C
Sneaky 1000+ Freepers :hi:
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #45
61. Nice post, Faye!
The categories were Spot On! It's actually interesting to see how many freepers have been lurking here lately. It just shows the amount of anxiety they are feeling about their boy king who WILL eventually be deposed!

Keep the faith and thanks! :yourock:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #44
55. --- jousting clowns --- what a useful term!
Jousting Clowns aren't exclusive to DU -- i've gone to school with and worked with and spent a lot time avoiding...Jousting Clowns.

never had a word for them (except the usual, boring: idiot)
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justice4all Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:17 PM
Response to Original message
50. Thanks from a newbie
I've been lurking for a while before getting a logon so I've seen em, but it's nice to see the types spelled out. "A Field Guide to Freepers"? Some of the "callouts" on this board have been pretty entertaining.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #50
51. i'm sure there's more than this
but these are the ones i see most often, especially in this forum.
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #51
62. I wish the mods would be more reactive to the freepers
According to the rules, freepers are NOT allowed here.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. i'm telling you
it's the Borderlines that wont' go away. It's a hard act to pull off, not all of them are good at it, but there are enough here right now who shouldn't be but they are too talented. :eyes:
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #62
68. Oh! But, sometimes it's fun to be mindless and play with a freeper before
going back to the reality of Chimpy as our prez.:(
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #62
78. I feel exactly the same way.
but when I alerted,
How come my posts got deleted? I will never post another reply. I think we shouldn't pay any attention to them, no matter how hard it is. Then maybe they'll get tired and just die. :evilfrown:
They're obviously disrupting the threads and they're not supposed to be allowed here. There's more here now than ever---I think they're at the stage where "Then they fight you"!
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euler Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #62
89. Do mods have some...
...way to know who a freeper is ?
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #89
92. Why? Are you worried?
HEE! HEE! HEE! :think:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #89
94. basically from distinguishing from the 'classes' mentioned above
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 10:52 PM by Faye
combined obvious posts, as well as alerts from other members....and i assume IP addresses of people who have been previously banned....
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:25 PM
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63. Gotcha, tx, a newbie, but not stupid.
I'm too new to know what it's been like here at DU for years, and I've seen so many "ain't gonna happen" posts, which for the most part I dismiss and I'm of the it's gonna happen, count on it crowd. Your pointers are helpful, and this newbie appreciates it..tx.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:26 PM
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66. Dont Forget "To Good To Be True" and "Need No Sleep" Freepers
I have encountered these on other message boards ( I am relatively new here).

"To Good To Be True" Freepers: They are the ones who claim to be "just a housewife" or "just a grad student" or whatever will make them fit in best in the local community but have an incredible body of knowledge that is way out of line with their pretend personae and they post almost exclusively about one topic.

"Need No Sleep" Freepers post 24 hours a day and are always there to respond esp when someone makes a good point or is leading a discussion in a productive direction. I suspect that these are actually committees of Freepers.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #66
69. those two would also fall under Class 3 - or possibly Class 4
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #66
71. These are the only types who seem to get tombstoned
Which I think is sad, considering the other kind are quite virulent.

But maybe I'm just too new here to recognize the true freeps.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:45 PM
Response to Reply #66
87. There are also the "I'm a lawyer and know all" freeps.
There are some wonderful lawyers here, who give us some great insight and information, but there are also the fakes who think "being a lawyer" or "a doctor" gives them cred on all subjects.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #87
88. they fall under class 4
lol
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #88
93. A couple of 'em got banned recently in a hurry. They're pretty obvious.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #66
122. Just a Housewife
I'm a newbie who's been accused of being a Freeper because I expressed a viewpoint several people didn't agree with. I was not interrogated as to my resume, but, if asked, I would have had to truthfully reply with the apparently very suspicious "I'm a housewife at the moment" (I've been a stay-at-home mom for the past 3 years). Just so you know, a lot of college-educated women choose to stay at home with the kiddies for some number of years. However, many have had successful careers beforehand which is why they might sound suspiciously intelligent. So too, with the alleged grad students: Attending grad school is a sign of possible intelligence. Also, having been both categories above, I can attest to the fact that they are around at odd hours since they do not hold traditional 9-5 jobs. Hope this clears things up.

P.S. Please see my post under "General Discussion: Politics", entitled "Seven signs you might be suffering from Freeperphobia". You seem like a nice person and I don't want you falling in with a bad crowd.
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #122
125. LOL! Agree!
Welcome to DU Moggie!:hi:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #122
129. i was accused of being a freeper
when i first came, for ASKING WTF A FREEPER IS. LOL.
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euler Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:33 PM
Response to Original message
75. How do you tell the difference between a...
...class 3 or class 4 freeper, and a genuine progressive who simply has a different opinion ?

Is it acceptable for a genuine progressive to believe that there was no election fraud, and to say as much in a post or thread ?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #75
80. SOMETIMES you can't
and that is why they are the ones that are less likely to get banned, or at least take a long time to get banned.
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #75
85. Hey, it's supposed to be a free country so people should be able to
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 10:44 PM by Verve
disagree about election fraud. I think the problem is that some posters who disagree, continually and habitually visit election fraud posts to cram their views down other's throats. IMO that's the difference. It's a habitual ongoing disagreement with them.
If they don't agree, stay in the lounge.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:58 AM
Response to Reply #85
172. and some people drop in all the issue / activism threads and pee
all over all of them. Maybe some people are not intending to disrupt but don't think twice about being relentlessly negative all the time. it's especially pointless when you do to an organising or positive thread and someone buts in with the "hey stupid why do you bother" stuff. and then they expect people to be nice? it's such a waste of time. and if they are not moles. they oughta seriously be thinking about why they bother with that bullshit.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #75
96. Yes, but its usually easy to tell the difference.
I think the freeps are usually more condescending about it.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #75
114. Hmmmm
That will give the Freeperphobes a moment or two pause
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:29 AM
Response to Reply #75
152. Euler, It's almost IMPOSSIBLE for a progressive to believe there was NO
election fraud, and I'll tell you why:

Most progressives read a lot, rather than rely on mainstream (republican) media, and are usually fairly well informed individuals... informed from a myriad of sources. Progressives by nature question authority, or surface information (a characteristic of progressive thought). They dig for contrary opinion.

Furthermore, progressives have a passion for protecting those least able to stand for themselves. Progressives generally believe that every person should have equal rights as every other person, regardless of color, race, religion, sex, sexual preference, education, or physical ability.

So, when we see that our African American, Native American, Latino, Asian or Indian brothers & sisters, or any other member of our human clan, has been "forced" to stand in line for 10 hours in the rain to have their vote count, when their lilly white and wealthy counterparts across town have more than enough machines to get in and out of a precinct in 15 minutes, some little liberal light bulb (also characteristic of progressives) goes off in our heads, and we look around to see what the cause might be!

And when we see that in EVERY case where there has been a problem with a touch-screen machine, OR voter disenfranchisement, OR "lost" voter registrations, OR questions of signatures that disqualifies hundreds of voters -- many of whom have voted for 30 years in the same precinct -- are then classified as non-votes, and that ALL these problems favor ONLY ONE CANDIDATE, our progressive, questioning, justice-seeking little brains EXPLODE and we rub the two remaining brain cells together and come up with a progressive point of view: that this is SOOOOOO "not right" that it HAS to be fraud.

That is something that progressives share in common! So, when we see other people that DON'T go through a similar process, it just kinda makes us wonder:

1) Did the person not understand the presented evidence -- did I not explain myself clearly, or make the proper presentation? or

2) Does this person have additional information that I DON'T have that would somehow CHANGE the conclusions I have drawn from the information I have..... in which case, a discussion of new data ensues. or

3) Does this person have some sort of ulterior motive for wanting me to change my already analyzed point of view, in favor of some other conclusion....and if so, WHY???

That's why it just doesn't compute that a "genuine progressive" would believe there was no election fraud. Because there was.

:kick::kick:
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:34 AM
Response to Reply #152
153. Well done Loud Sue! Couldn't have been said better. Thanks! n/t
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #153
159. Aw shucks, Verve.... thanks!
:loveya:

:kick::kick::kick:
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:42 AM
Response to Reply #152
165. Excellent point. The only reason I can think of
that someone who's progressive wouldn't have their eyebrows raised about this election is if they are just too busy to read in-depth about what happened. God knows the main stream media isn't informing anyone about the facts.
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:39 PM
Response to Original message
81. Notice how they will not come to this thread! nt
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #81
83. yes they will
they might have already :hi: who knows
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madbelgiancow Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #83
100. Here I am!
NOT :-)

Thanks Faye for the rundown. I think I may have had an encounter.
Fun for some time, but I imagine it bogs you down when you can't lay a finger on them.

What I hate most about them is that they raise the paranoia level and the distrust for newbies.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #81
134. I'm here now
Sorry for my late arrival. I was busy writing a post entitled, "Seven signs you might have FREEPERphobia" (posted under General Discussion: Politics" category). I wrote it after reading the first post in this thread, the one that described how to recognize Freepers/ Excuse me, gotta go, Karl just came down into the basement with some more coffee for the six dozen people working the DU late shift -- oops, shoot, I just mistakenly let you know about all us FREEPERS working out of Karl Roves' basement. Drats! He's gonna be pissed.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #134
137. why are you so offended?
if you aren't a freeper you shouldn't be offended at all.
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north houston dem Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:40 PM
Response to Original message
84. Thank you Faye
Very useful stuff. The newbies thank you!

:hi:
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #84
104. Is there a classification for the KICK!! crowd?
The tag team freepers that only write KICK!!!!! to keep the thread going (not saying that everyone that writes that is a freeper)?
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Left coast liberal Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:49 PM
Response to Original message
90. Good for you, Faye! Way to call 'em out! Keep it up! n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:50 PM
Response to Original message
91. Wish nominating would be respected and considered, but
I know it won't, but I have definitely bookmarked this thread! Thanks Faye, great job! :toast:
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:00 PM
Response to Original message
98. Very educational. I especially get confused by the 1000 post freepers.
Thanks for taking the time to give us a Freeper glossary Faye.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #98
102. apparently, this has drawn attention from some creepy people
people IM'ing me on AIM asking me about freepers, asking me if i am one, putting me through some kind of test?????:shrug:
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:04 PM
Response to Original message
103. Hey, Faye - that was good!
You've learned well, grasshopper. :) :thumbsup:

I love your "take no crap from anybody" posts. They empower me.

But I'll forewarn you - troll hunting can be addictive. Once you've tasted the blood....

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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #103
138. lol Rev
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:59 AM
Response to Reply #138
168. Seito, you're killing me with those smilies!
I saw your >ahem< "work" in the KO thread tonight, and y'all had me howling with laughter!

I am temporarily smiley-challenged, but I can offer you: :toast:
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:09 AM
Response to Reply #168
169. Rev
You posts never fail to lift my spirits. :toast:
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:41 AM
Response to Reply #169
170. It's so nice to see a friendly face in such an ugly forum.
Sometimes I just forget that the Freepers are out. It can be very discouraging at times. But with people like you & Faye, and the Estrogen Gals of KO, y'all keep my spirits lifted, too..

So, again, many thanks! :hug:
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:11 PM
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105. Again, it's a game to these creeps... and this will be deleted...
Default Rules for obtaining the mole awards
A few simple rules for wear of the mole awards who I believe were created by (deleted name)

1 We have the honor system for all the awards but the trophy award. SO feel free to pin them on.

2 The trophy award will be given in cases where your mole
a makes the front page at DUmmyland
b Your moling causes $kimmer to tighten security (our own skinner is hereby awarded the CU Trophy award)
c 10 or more suicide missions.
d someone who holds the award feels you have done enough to earn one.



Awarded for 100+ mole posts.

Awarded for "suicide" missions.

Awarded for moling of over 1k posts then getting a Tombstone.

Awarded by the foremention regulations.

All violaters of these regulations will be taunted mercilessly.

Here is the order they should appear
__________________
Member 675, Secret advisor to Karl Rove.

Ever notice the only time the DUers think an election is a fair election is when the dem wins?
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #105
111. Hey Niche! Is this from a real sight?
If so that's pathetic. What losers!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #111
113. yes
ConservativeUnderground.com - the 'wannabe' conservative version of DU :eyes: don't bother going, you'll just want to :puke:
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #113
119. Thanks! I won't waste my time. n/t
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ShinerTX Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:15 AM
Response to Reply #113
143. Hey Faye...
They mentioned you on the site.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:17 AM
Response to Reply #143
145. i'm sure the person who was IM'ing me just a little while ago
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 12:17 AM by Faye
is from that site. hmm. i wonder what i did to rattle their cages? :shrug: :hi:


ps) i pasted that whole conversation to an admin here :hi:
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:53 AM
Response to Reply #113
166. you didn't really have to plug the site
although it's intriguing you recognized the source within a minute.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #105
120. Wow, they really are pathetic. They play freepy little 'mole' games and
get trophies for them. How stupid is that?
They are such s
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:24 PM
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118. Faye, I was looking for you Sunday
in a thread where I knew you would say STFU! I tried to play nice, but it needed your touch.

:hi:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #118
127. LOL
dammit, i'm sad that i missed it :hi:
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:27 PM
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121. one thing "good" about freepers...
...they kind of sharpen your resolve, y'know. As long as they don't get out of control, the borderline ones esp give opportunities to sniff out weak arguments and formulate responses. I say thanks to them for toughening us up, giving us the courage of our convictions.

Freepers annoy but they don't depress me--I think nobody should knock us off center so easily. I'm finding that as Faye points out, after awhile they fall into recognizable patterns and start to echo each other. I support the policy here at DU, as I think it allows more dissenting opinions to be aired in general. I'd rather decide for myself who's arguments are questionable than see too much censorship.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #121
126. PS--not saying to feed them...
don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that it's not a bad thing to recognise the patterns so you can figure out how not to take the bait. That's what I mean by courage of convictions. You learn not to be bothered. I'm not saying lock horns--that doesn't work, no. But often they put up arguments that any of us may encounter elsewhere and can learn to deflect.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:24 AM
Response to Reply #126
151. Freepbait
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 12:33 AM by FreepFryer
I also like to observe the volume of freep attacks, in relation to certain issues (and angles within those issues!). It's almost as if they want to let you in on their agenda so you can spank them for their corrupt little souls.

Regardless of the category, or effectiveness of evidenced freepery what I find most compelling and informative to infer from the volume and focus of the freepcidents is the world view/mind set revealed thereby.

In other words, it lets us take a look 'round the kind of mind set that can act evilly to undermine all of the civil liberties and protections our country was founded on for personal gain, and attribute their greed a perverse divine righteousness.

The kind of stuff most Americans cannot understand.

The freepers are the GOP equivalent of 24-hour tinfoilers, birthed in the age of Reagan, now hopelessly hopped up on crank, Miller Lite and Cheese Doodles in their age of Empire.

Like that angry drunk at dusk, they're eventually goin' down. It'll end real ugly, like a bad episode of COPS, but it'll end.

And Ann Coulter, like the ideological crankho she is, will scream and yell and ultimately do that orange suit women's correctional facility perp walk. Her own anger will make her do something, someday, that gets her locked up. Don't even get me started on those black-hearted GOP women. There's something wrong with a woman who votes against basic civil rights for women.

Most Repub families have OUR values, not Freeper values. Believe that. And the overwhelming number of freeps at the top AND the bottom of the food chain are little more than self-interested fools.

Change the channel. One by one.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:33 PM
Response to Original message
124. FREEPERphobia
You seem like a nice person and I'm a little worried about you. Please see my post entitled, "Seven signs you might be suffering from FREEPERphobia" (I think I posted it under General Discussion: Politics.)"
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #124
130. no thanks
:hi: these are the facts ma'am, didn't accuse anyone in particular of being anything :hi:
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:06 AM
Response to Reply #124
160. Moggie?
What's with the obsession? Your concerns have been addressed, but you're continuing to post your "concern."

Are you trying to say there's no such thing as a freeper, or what exactly is your point?

Just curious. (And please don't respond with "freeperphobe!" I'm just asking you a question.)
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:54 AM
Response to Reply #124
167. Forget FREEPERphobia. Teach me about ettiquette.
You joined 3 days ago and are lecturing other members and condescendingly telling them that you're "worried about them" because of their posts. What is that supposed to mean? What are you *really* so worried about?
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:39 PM
Response to Original message
128. wow!
did not know this one...I guess ignorance is a bless, I do believe in the DU members but know ..oh well I guess have to memorize usernames better...maybe that explains why my post do not get much attention around here..and they drop like stone...:evilgrin:
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:41 PM
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131. thank you n/t
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:53 PM
Response to Original message
135. Good Work Faye
All that I may add is that the last months since the election, a lot of good posters have quit or are lying low. Also a lot of the newer posters are more worried about Freepers than Kerrying on.
Eventually the bugs get worked out.
:beer:
Some are double agents or triple undercover! Beware! Oh and Hi Roger(is that the name of our cia/fbi lurker)
:kick: - not just used by Freepers
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:54 PM
Response to Original message
136. They're out like mosquitos this evening.
The sweet smell of victory's perfume must be attracting them.
If they fly around your ears, just swat them away. Like every scourge, they will be fought by worthy heroes with brave hearts and courageous spirits.

Peace DUers. NGU.

:)
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:10 AM
Response to Original message
139. And...NEVER feed them after midnight!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #139
141. lol! you've been paying attention to my favorite freep pic


w00t!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #141
144. Damn! I was looking for that one! LOL n/t
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:18 AM
Response to Reply #144
147. LOL
i have it saved on my Firefox tabs - easy access LOL
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #141
155. What the heck are those? I won't even ask you two where you got those pics
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 12:40 AM by Verve
Those things are nasty!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #155
156. didn't you ever see the movie Gremlins?
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 12:45 AM by Faye
they're the bad mogwais. if you feed mogwais after midnight, they turn into Gremlins. Don't you remember Gizmo?


(gizmo is a good mogwai)
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:12 AM
Response to Original message
140. Not locked yet. Nice work Faye.
I like Class 5. They're so obvious.

NGU.


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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:14 AM
Response to Reply #140
142. i know, and they're the ones that are the most frustrating
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 12:14 AM by Faye
they're quite talened (or so they think)
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:18 AM
Response to Reply #142
146. Bah! They're toys for my amusement...
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 12:18 AM by ClassWarrior
:evilgrin:

<LOL>

NGU.


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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #146
148. exactly
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 12:19 AM by Faye
and obviously they've become some kind of psychologist study for me :shrug: LOL
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #146
150. Ahhh Class V multiple opponent combat
:evilgrin:

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:54 AM
Response to Reply #150
161. How many did YOU have for breakfast today??
<LOL>

NGU.


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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:22 AM
Response to Reply #161
164. Yum, Freep Stew
Double, double, toil and trouble;
Fire, burn; and caldron, bubble.




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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:48 AM
Response to Original message
157. I do alot of short drive-by posting in response to others cuz I don't
think people have time to spend on lots and lots of long winded threads. I am not a freeper.

NVMojo
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #157
158. of course you aren't
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 12:53 AM by Faye
if you aren't a freeper, and you know you're not a freeper you should be offended at all :) I don't think anyone thinks you are, so dont' think it for a minute. i also do drive-by postings, like LOL or HAHAH but that's not what this refers to.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:09 AM
Response to Reply #158
162. Heh heh hehh heh.
Good work, Faye. It's so true.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:16 AM
Response to Original message
163. Before I joined the site was locked up
not taking new registrations, which was frustrating for me at the time.

I can see the logic of blocking new registrations during times of stress and planning though.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:51 AM
Response to Original message
171. That's very good, Faye!
I hate freepers. I hit my alert button all the time on them. It pains me when I check back the next day or so and they are still registered. The mods can be slow sometimes.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:00 AM
Response to Original message
173. Thanks Faye
for posting this. I'm new, and a target no doubt.

However, I've spent the past year posting on a board that is rife with freepers. At this point, I can smell a post of theirs a mile away, so I'm familiar with 4 out of the 5 on your list. But since I started posting here, I've been a bit confused by some of the posts by members with several hundred to 1000+ posts that didn't quite jibe, didn't quite make sense. Now I get it.

Thanks again for the heads up.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:15 AM
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174. Locking
This thread has degenerated into a vehicle for the inevitable attacks, counterattacks and innuendo towards other members for allegedly being freepers. The alert button is the most suitable and , indeed, the only accepted remedy for dealing with a suspected freeper.
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