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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:15 AM
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Conyers says: (On AAR)
Conyers says: Call your Senator to ask them to stand up. (We all already are, right?) Asking for "fairness in examining all of the" questions that came in from Ohio.
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atldem Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:17 AM
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1. My Senators are Chambliss and Miller!!!
It would be a total waste of my time!
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:18 AM
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3. Ditto here n/t
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:20 AM
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7. doesn't GA suck?
I live in ATL, too. I called their offices anyway.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:24 AM
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14. My sympathies.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:07 PM
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27. So what?? This is about NATION, not PARTY!!
Call 'em anyway. They're supposed to represent you. So tell 'em to start representin'.

NGU.


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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:53 PM
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33. I faxed them, but we are talking about
one certifiable nut and another who stole his own election. Hell, maybe they're both.
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StephanieMarie Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:07 PM
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28. Me too, but I wrote Chambliss
got a lame response, and wrote him back again. He needs to know that ALL his constituents aren't drinking koolaid.
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Darknyte7 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:17 AM
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2. I feel pretty good about it guys!
He says that he wants to come back on AAR tomorrow to talk about their "modest success".
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:18 AM
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4. Modest success meaning...they made the motion but the mofos
didn't stand up for it.
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jn2375 Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:19 AM
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5. My Senators are Santorium and Spector, not a chance in hell
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Not a Sheep Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:49 PM
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32. Yep, me too! Santorum is embarrasing. /eom
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:19 AM
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6. I sent my senator email - but he's a republican in Oio - so
I'm sure it won't help - he's in on the election rigging!!
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:23 AM
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12. Don't assume that.
Voinivich was pilloried by the Club for Growth.

Moderates are an endagered species in the Republican party and they might be useful in exposing the tactics of the cons. I dont believe every Republican is evil, just the ones in the leaderships positions. Worst of the worst
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ohioliberal Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:30 AM
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17. I still sent them the letter, who knows?
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:20 AM
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8. I am calling Schumer and Hillary, but also
I am going to call Kennedy. I don't think it will hurt to call Senators who are not in our own states.

I have a new cell phone that gives me a lot of free minutes, so I am going to USE them for DEMOCRACY, goddammit!
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atldem Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:22 AM
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9. I understand wanting to say your peace but
they give no weight to callers from another state because you can't vote for them anyway, and that's what counts to them.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:24 AM
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13. Not true.
Whether you are a direct constituent or not, they are listening...
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atldem Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:26 AM
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15. I used to have that kind of
idealism too.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:54 AM
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23. Well, it takes all kinds...
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 11:56 AM by itzamirakul
But as for me, I am going to call some of those who are out of state. How will they know whether or not I am a voter in their stateunltss I tell them so? Also, as Democrats, they should be concerned with what ALL Dems think and want and not just those who vote for them. If they do not feel this way, then maybe we should remind them.

Edited to say:
I find such negative comments from Democrats to be suspect. But then I don't wear a tin foil hat so maybe the rays are getting through.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:55 PM
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34. FreepFryer is correct.
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 12:56 PM by Pacifist Patriot
Even if they do not respond to non-constituent mail, their staff do compile pro/con tallies that include out-of-state correspondence. I've contacted every single democratic senator and a handful of republicans. It might not help, but it sure as hell won't hurt.

ETA: Remember that today's Senator may be tomorrow's presidential candidate. ;)
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:23 AM
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10. I called Byrd (had yucky letter from Rockefeller)...
but I suppose I should call Rockefeller anyway.

My son called Byrd and has called friends to call Byrd also
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:31 AM
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18. Just called Rockefeller's office...
and asked for him to contest tomorrow. The man who answered didn't know whether Jay would stand up tomorrow. I told him that I objected to Jay's response to my email (that election reform was important but Nov 2004 election was over). He said that he didn't know today where the senator stood but maybe he had changed his mind. My response: "I certainly hope so."
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:23 AM
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11. Don't just call your Senator!
Mine are all repugs (Texas, don'tcha know?). Last night, I e-mailed or webformed every dem Senator. Obama didn't have one set up yet that I could find, but I sent everybody else one. Yeah, I've gotten auto replies that tell me thanks for expressing my opinion, but if I don't live in their state I should not expect a response. I don't want a response, I want them to stand!!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:30 AM
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16. call senator dayton minn...
this man has guts and integrity..he went after this admin with regards to 9/11...

beg him to stand!!

a little about dayton

911Truth.org ::::: The 9/11 Truth Movement - ... Senator Dayton: NORAD Lied About 9/11. ... Erin Utzinger, a spokeswoman for Dayton, said the senator "assumes the FAA knew of NORAD's coverup." (End of excerpt. ...
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040731213239607

fly
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:34 AM
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20. He also had to leave his office because of a "terror warning"
last year. he might do it if has a body guard.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:39 AM
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22. no senators were in their offices and staff were twiddling their thumbs
big deal. I know one of the staffers in DC.
Much ado about nothing.

Personally, I'm glad he called their bluff on the terror warnings, meant to toy with everyone's psyches. As you may have noticed, we haven't had anymore.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:03 PM
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38. Well given deadly poison was mailed to democrats, perhaps he
knew something he could not share.

Dayton has been a member of the Senate for years, and lived under the shadow of the Great Paul Wellstone, he has started to shine in his own light as of late.

The Right Wing is already targeting him, so I hope he goes for broke.

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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:36 AM
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21. Dayton is meeting with people today
to get all the facts. Let's cross our fingers.
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:33 AM
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19. as of now they have all be advised.
they have all be petitioned they have all be sent letters and emails and got phone calls. if they say anything else we know they are lying.

like conyers said there are millions doing this and with no Press except air America so they should think about that (our senators) because if this country actually had a damn clue, if msm was doing its job they would be over run with phone calls faxed and emails.

I dont want excuses from any of them. they are hearing us on many other issues ie: Delay, and Gonzalez and Social security. there is no way they are not hearing about the voter fraud. because we have been very vocal about that.
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El Vengedor Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:57 AM
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24. Does anyone know Reid's position?
As Minority Leader, Reid should be driving the train on this, so his position is important. An objection by a Democratic senator will fan partisan flames and make his job much more difficult from Day One. If he's against it and it happens anyway, it will put him in a very awkward position. He'll be forced to either lead a partisan fight with the Republicans that he doesn't want or if he doesn't fight, he'll have to face the wrath of constituents that will further weaken the party. Reid will be seriously pissed off under that scenario and might retaliate against the offending senator. If he has any brains, he has already told Senate Democrats what he wants and warned them not to do anything different.

If anything happens in the Senate, it will likely come from a group of senators - at least 6 or 7. If only one senator objects, the MSM will make him look like an idiot.

My bet is that nothing happens. Reid is just starting out and he's not going to sh*t in the punchbowl as his first official act.
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:04 PM
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25. if i heard conyers correctly Reid
is not buying into this.

Reid did make buzzflash GOP hypocrite of the week. thats quit the dishonor since it usually goes to republicans.

http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/04/12/edi04089.html
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:06 PM
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26. A caller said that she hadn't gotten a good response
from Reid - but Conyers said that wasn't the impression he was getting from his contact with him. (If I remember correctly)
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Woodstock Liberal Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:38 PM
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30. I agree with you El Vengedor
I have been pestering Lautenberg's office. In my opinion he has the guts to stand for us but of course his staff simply says they 'will pass along my concerns'. Have you had any luck with him?
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El Vengedor Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:47 PM
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31. Lautenberg
The same response.

That's what you always get from his office. In about a month, you'll get a form letter thanking you and explaining whatever he does.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:55 PM
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37. I heard Reid on Randi Rhodes last month, and HE brought up the Fraud
issue. They were talking about something else, and HE brought it up...very animated and outraged. And when Randi said her producers did not like her discussing it, he still continued.

So I would NOT be surprised if OTHER Senators start first, if he joins in as well.

Plus, on another thread, there is talk of a Filibuster in the Senate on this on Jan. 6. Keep the faith!
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justsomegirl Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 12:26 PM
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29. Those of you w/Republican Senators
Write 'em or call 'em anyway!

This is their opportunity to 'do the right thing' and to 'stand up for the rights of ALL citizens in america' - maybe it's time to bring back the phrase 'the whole world is watching'.

They represent their constituents, and maybe they won't be so high and mighty when they realize how many people are unhappy with their party.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:00 PM
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35. I second that.
I wrote both of my Republican Senators, and one of them is surely a nut-job. (HINT: He advocated the death penalty for fellow doctors who perform abortions.) It may not make much of a difference, but I am not going to sit idly by and do nothing when I can at least try. It does not hurt to send off a letter or make a few phone calls. At least I can sleep at night knowing that I tried my damnedest to communicate the severity of this past election -- even if it was to Republicans from Oklahoma who are both doubtlessly nefarious in character at best.
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planetc Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:45 PM
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36. Thank you, Mr. Conyers, Sir, I have called...
my senators and everybody else's senators. I just have a few to clean up here. THIS year, not one of them can say they weren't asked, because I ASKED THEM. Let the proceedings proceed, and may the group with right on its side prevail. If it doesn't, we try something else. NGU
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