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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:52 PM
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Mixed Emotions
Its a great day for those of us who fought so hard for the past 4 years to get the issues out there and in the mainstream. Im very glad we did this and I believe that several of our Senators made some great points in the debate.

However, this is not getting the coverage by the MSM. When it does get the coverage, it is only to imply that the Democrats lost again. The Republicans have effectively painted us as the party of "Sore Losers" and that my friends, is what is going to be echoed throughout the country tommorrow. Plus, lets be realistic, with Republicans in charge of ALL branches of government, the Patriot Act restricting our basic liberties (remember the controlled zones for protest?), there is very little that we can hope to achieve in the way of election reform other than face-time that ends up in the lap of the GOP (Diebold, anyone?).

I really wish that our Senators could have stood up and voted with Sen. Boxer as a show of solidarity. Many of you say, "GOP would have turned that into a Sour-Grapes discussion about Kerry",folks, THEY ALREADY ARE! That is the line they repeated, it makes a much prettier talking point than election irregularities or anything we put out there today. A yes vote, to me, would have given some legitimacy, a small glimmer of hope to all of those who feel like they do not have a voice left. This NO vote has only given the GOP more ammunition to point towards their "mandate", and that is more dangerous than being called a "sore loser".

Go ahead, call me a whiner, call me a newbie, but thats how I feel.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:53 PM
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1. I agree with you. If all had stood up, that would have been better.
Sadly, it was not to be. We will have to keep working.
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UTdem Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:55 PM
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2. agree
What do we do now?
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:56 PM
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4. Thanks
Im glad that I have a little support!

Let me clarify, in no way am I going to "give up", Ill work just as hard now than ever before. I just wish we had a little bit more to work with, but this is the hand we were dealt, we just have to make the most out of it.
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:56 PM
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3. Unfortunately I believe it will be dismissed as an exercise in
Democracy. Fortunately I believe that if those who have begun investigations into electronic tampering can find conclusive evidence, it may be the groundwork for impeachment.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:59 PM
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6. Great point
If any good can come out of this, the investigations will have even more legitimacy.

We cant let this issue die! Thats the main thing that must be done. Second, we must hold the fire to the Senators on our side.

Any other ideas?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 03:57 PM
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5. Now that the TOP is talking about this stuff, we get back to grassroots
activism on the subject.

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Election reform can help save this country!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:02 PM
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7. I feel that way too! Just a couple of ayes would have sent more of a messa
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